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Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: January 30, 2010, 08:16:57 AM »
Do Cryptopsy and Damnation (POL) have any releases that achieve the same quality as `None So Vile` and `Rebel Souls` respectively?

Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: August 16, 2008, 02:33:32 AM »
Brocas Helm - Black Death

Coming across like a sublime mix of Maiden and Metallica; this is their best. Thrashy, reflective and eccentric, Black Death kicks the snot out of 99% of 80s metal albums.

Metal / Re: Gifted children enjoy heavy metal
« on: April 06, 2007, 12:36:06 AM »
Many academically gifted children also enjoy pornography and soap operas. I`d be surprised if many of the youngsters surveyed perceive heavy metal as anything more than another form of escapism.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: November 29, 2006, 02:00:54 AM »
If you want to talk about some music I was glad to let run away from my CD collection and not get backed up with the rest of the MP3s, it is this genre. Metallica's good, Slayer's good, but listening to Destruction, Kreator, Exodus, Anthrax or Nuclear Assault these days is as bad as having to hear Coldplay.

I have seen this genre described as the `training wheels` of metal and in that context I can understand why someone would find some value in the lesser bands you mentioned. That said, I wouldn`t condone anyone listening to Megadeth under ANY circumstances.

Metal / Re: Terrorizer magazine
« on: November 23, 2006, 08:01:38 AM »
I`m surprised (in a good way) they included the likes of Soulside Journey and The Key, but the inclusion of Arise, Symbolic and Slaughter Of The Soul at the expense of Consuming Impulse and Dawn Of Possession is unforgivable. Once again, Legion failed to make a DM `best of` despite it`s superiority to the debut (as discussed in the Deicide thread).

Terrorizer should stick to top tens for it`s all time `best ofs` and albums of the year, their top 40s are more often than not padded out with mediocrity and/or shite.

Metal / Re: Terrorizer magazine
« on: November 23, 2006, 12:03:47 AM »
40. Immolation - Failures for Gods (1999)
39. Nocturnus - The Key (1990)
38. Gorguts - Obscura (1998 )
37. Darkthrone - Soulside Journey (1990)
36. Death - Symbolic (1995)
35. Malevolent Creation - Retribution (1992)
34. Entombed - Clandestine (1991)
33. Vader - De Profundis (1995)
32. Bolt Thrower - War Master (1991)
31. Napalm Death - Harmony Corruption (1990)
30. Death - Scream Bloody Gore (1987)
29. Obituary - Cause of Death (1990)
28. Carnage - Dark Recollections (1990)
27. Cancer - Death Shall Rise (1993)
26. Cryptopsy - None So Vile (1996)
25. Cynic - Focus (1993)
24. Pestilence - Testimony Of The Ancients (1991)
23. Carcass - Heartwork (1994)
22. Sepultura - Beneath the Remains (1989)
21. Nile - Black Seeds Of Vengeance (2000)
20. Dismember - Like An Ever Flowing Stream (1991)
19. Massacre - From Beyond (1991)
18. Carcass - Symphonies Of Sickness (1988 )
17. Bolt Thrower - Realm Of Chaos (1989)
16. Sepultura - Arise (1991)
15. At The Gates - Slaughter Of The Soul (1995)
14. Nile - Amongst The Catacombs of Nephren Ka (1998 )
13. Death - Human (1991)
12. Cannibal Corpse - Tomb Of The Mutilated (1992)
11. Repulsion - Horrified (1989)
10. Atheist - Unquestionable Presence (1990)
9. Autopsy - Mental Funeral (1991)
8. Morbid Angel - Blessed Are The Sick (1991)
7. Obituary - Slowly We Rot (1989)
6. Suffocation - Effigy Of The Forgotten (1991)
5. Carcass - Necroticism: Descanting The Insalubrious (1991)
4. Death - Leprosy (1988 )
3. Entombed - Left Hand Path (1990)
2. Deicide - Deicide (1990)
1. Morbid Angel - Altars Of Madness (1989)

Terrorizer`s recent DM top 40 could have been worse. It could have been a hell of a lot better, too.

Metal / Re: Criticism of this Metal Site
« on: November 06, 2006, 02:26:22 AM »
- bashing Venom too much

Actually, I find the lack of enthusiasm for Venom, Kreator and Destruction quite refreshing. Those bands get way too much credit as it is.

Metal / Re: Criticism of this Metal Site
« on: November 04, 2006, 01:26:45 PM »
The highlights of this site for me are it`s quality control, the enthusiasm and efficiency of it`s contributors and the variety and abundance of rare quality music.

The only major complaint I have (not just of this site but amongst metal fans generally) is that too many of it`s members seem to think the main criteria for being a metal `elitist` is to be as sneering and/or aggressive as possible (especially to newcomers).

I don`t mean criticism in a constructive or considered way (which is obviously a good thing), I`m talking about sheer mean-spiritedness in an attempt to make others (again, often newcomers) feel as unwelcome and worthless as possible.

Since when was being nice a crime?

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 17, 2006, 04:38:08 AM »
Vulcano are mediocre, at least if `Bloody Vengeance` is anything to go by. I havent got round to Holocausto yet. For Brazilian thrash I would recommend Psychic Possessor`s `Toxin Diffusion`. With it`s themes of radiation, reanimated corpses and mass manipulation it`s the aural equivalent of a Romero film.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 14, 2006, 10:26:22 AM »
I have Spectrum Of Death, Destruction System and Darkness Descends and find them to be equally underwhelming. Hell Awaits is great, though.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 10, 2006, 03:22:28 AM »
I`ve seen The Haunted described as everything from Gothencore, Melodic Death Metal, Thrash Metal, Death/Thrash, Deathcore, Hardcore Thrash Metal and beyond.

Like any classificaton of music, it`s open to interpretation, just as whether to apply the `speed` or `thrash` tag to most of the aforementioned bands discussed in this thread (it`s also dependent on which portion of a bands back catalogue is being discussed).

Personally, I find the term `speed metal` very irritating as it implies the only facet that defines the bands is how speedily they play. If you listen to some of the genre highlights (eg. Fade To Black or Nasty Savage - The Morgue) it`s obvious the bands are playing no faster than bands in any other genre.

As far as recommendations go, I could have also mentioned Mutilator and Mefisto but held back because didnt know if it was appropriate for this thread (they might be more at home under `death` and `black` respectively). In hindsight I wish I had; both bands are well worth hearing and the worst (or best) that could have happened would be that it encourages more debate.

We`ll have to agree to disagree about Razor, Annihilator, Dark Angel etc. I`m still adamant We Have Arrived is the preferable Dark Angel album (over Darkness Descends). The latter is too self conscious, homogenous and for the most part dull to listen to. The debut, whilst arguably more `light hearted` is a much more entertaining proposition (at least to my ears).

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 09, 2006, 12:54:48 AM »
It is not uncommon to find listeners who dislike any band with notoriety simply because they are obvious or famous.

Really? Thanks for that revelation, Wolfgang_master_of_stating_the_fucking_obvious.
If you`d bothered to read my earliest posts you`d see this doesn't apply to me as the FIRST TWO albums I recommended were Reign In Blood and Ride The Lightning; hardly obscure examples of the genre.

I have some advice for you. Look beyond the Dark Legions review section and you`ll find a whole new world of metal to explore.
Once your knowledge is broader than the 5 or 6 well known bands in each genre come back and you MIGHT just be qualified to comment on this thread. Heck, we might even might be able to get you spell `Annihilator` properly.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 07, 2006, 03:54:43 PM »
Your opinion might be remotely valid if from the perspective of a listener of more evolved metal that followed the proginating class of bands you just denounced  

My cd collection is an even mix of speed/thrash, death, black and heavy. I listen to all kinds of metal and have all the death metal albums you mentioned.
Personally, I find nothing special about Obituary, Amorphis, Deicide or Morbid Angel`s early work either, and would say that Floridian death metal, with a few exceptions, bores me to tears. I can appreciate the musical skill of say, Morbid Angel but find them to be shitty songwriters, much like Deicide and Obituary. I will conceed that Legion, Blessed Are The Sick and Cause Of Death are probably the best respective works by those bands but nothing I would call great, or even very good.

If Bonded By Blood, Pleasure To Kill and Darkness Descends represent the best of speed/thrash metal then I`m Orlando Bloom. I could mention AT LEAST 30 superior releases from that genre and era without blinking an eye.
I`ll refer you to my earliest post in this thread for recommended bands as your knowledge on the subject appears to be severely limited to the most obvious groups.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 03, 2006, 01:16:42 AM »
Although much maligned on this forum, thrash(speed) metal is like any other genre. It has it`s great, not so great, mediocre, overrated, underrated and worthless bands. Anyone who denies that fact is either prejudiced or hasnt looked hard enough. I still maintain that the best examples of this genre hold up against the highlights of any other genre of metal, and I know that if I live to be a thousand years old, Reign In Blood, Hellish Crossfire, Energetic Disassembly, Nightmare Theatre and the first Nasty Savage are albums I`ll be taking to the grave. Regardless of how `musical` these classics are, they have great songs, imagination, and their own special vibe which makes them sound as vital today as the day they were recorded. Quite honestly, you can`t say that about the vast majority of metal recorded over the last 30 years.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 01, 2006, 09:00:28 PM »
Vio-lence - Eternal Nightmare

For Bay Area thrash this is ok. Not good enough to lift it out the average zone though. The first 2 tracks are excellent, the rest struggles to keep up.

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