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Interzone / Re: Under 120s gone: better or worse?
« on: April 26, 2012, 02:13:10 AM »
I don't know why anyone would answer "worse" for this question. "Better" is the correct answer of course.

Some people are weak in their souls and are afraid to defy taboo.

They want to convince us that we are wrong and impractical, and therefore, we should abandon truth for convenience.

That's cowardice and no nihilist should respect it.

This ain't /r/progressive. Stop giving excuses and face arguments, not motivations that you are incapable to know. Avoid that manipulative fagottry.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 25, 2012, 12:58:02 PM »
We've ALL moved on from this.

It seems to me like most forum users accepted it, except for a few exoteric-Christian-style moralists who really have become upset.

We should all move on now.

Again presuposing my moral motivations instead of facing the arguments. Sometimes you are soooo... 119.5 man!

But ok, let's move on from this, and let's move on from doing that stupid, moron rapture/woodchipping question again.

The light after the shitstorm.


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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 25, 2012, 09:03:26 AM »
No, that's not a mark of a higher individual. It's the mark of an idiot. People of your nature temporarily outnumber him; why would he waste time addressing your repetitive arguments? Do it once, then move on. Move on to say something important instead.

Sometimes, it happens, sometimes it's like that, it may be the case Conservationist, but this is not the case. You both failed even when you tried to respond. I won't blame you at all, tardocaust it's sooo stupid that is hard to defend. You won't see discussions about it in any respectable place: not in the (real) conservatism or in the academic new right, because the idea is simply retarded, not that it is 'uncomfortable for the modern meekness' or some shit like that, it's retarded before being controversial. It is a petty fantasy that only could sound sensible in a crack-smoking session in the depths of a sewer.

I know that there are good persons here. Move on to paleoconservatism, leave the sewer.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 24, 2012, 06:15:48 PM »
ITTs: people are willfully misinterpreting a very simple point.  

You just know it in you heart? Or can you elaborate?

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RATHER, WE ARE ASSERTING THE BENEFICE OF HIGHER AVERAGE INTELLIGENCE AND LOWER POPULATION.

Oh thanks! No one was already aware of this! Thank you woodchipping dilemma!

Leftists agree with your final assertion: higher intelligence and lower populations are beneficial. Nice, uh? Here is where the methods and the possibilities show themselves to be important, while this überconsequentialism of the magical rapture/the binary piranha question shows its idiocy.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 24, 2012, 08:55:25 AM »
If in your view I cannot be correct because you feel I have a logical problem, that is an ad hominem.

Do you remember that thing about saying someone "you are stupid" on the internets being not necessarily an ad hominem? I mean, sometimes you will realize that the other speaker is unable to follow the conversation.

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My goal is not to contravene any irrelevancy you raise but to correct it in the overall discussion context, thereby keeping us all on track. The question is about the results. Not about the methods. Dodging this error on your part is not going to fly with me again.

It is a useless question. Moron rapture will not happen. Your megaüberconsequentilist question about the results is as useless as a magical IQ-raising fairy dust proposal. Nothing useful follows from it after a yes or no.

It's even unclear as a thought provoking question. A better formulation is: are you're willing to kill the under 120s, if that means an improvement for the world? But that barely tells a little bit about the personal psychological or ideological motivations. You being "cruel" and calling us Jesus lovers, it's a badly articulated reaction to this ("you are not willing to kill because you are afraid"), but you know, it means nothing ... it won't convince anyone with brains about doing genocide, because it is not the right question to produce a logical train of outcomes, plans, solutions, etc... (see below).

It's that, or a false dillema when you get the piranhas, the wood-chippers and other childish stuff into your Y/N question.

The right question is veery simple: which is the best way to raise the IQ of the world population? Damn it, and then you could even try to defend your genocide thing, that's not the problem. But your question is defective.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 24, 2012, 02:38:04 AM »
Asking "wood-chipping" (as an allegory of genocide) and then asking for a YES/NO. False dichotomy.

No the question is if we dump the under 120s: are we better off or worse off? That's an end result.

The question is not the means to the result which is what all of those who are gay for Jesus home in on. Yes, we can see the difference between people.

You didn't address anything I said, you regurgitated the same question with a consequentialist twist that is irrelevant to what I said.

Not ad hominem, but I'm starting to question your logical skills.

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Interzone / Re: Under 120s gone: logistics
« on: April 24, 2012, 02:33:29 AM »
The plans:

I know, woodchipper mulch for global reforestation would draw flies all over the fat, offal and bone shards. You're concerned about mess. You're appalled by the undying reek all summer. I can sympathize. How about less messy then?

The mental defectives could find themselves nailed to the pavement by a foot of #6 rebar. There the subhumans could disappear from internal bleeding or exposure. The stink would be a bit lessened, the flies a little less prolific and there would be less gory surface area for human beings to step around.

A few dozen acres converted to piranha ponds could take care of this problem fairly quickly.

The challenge:

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Most people are too cowardly to change and fear change, so they're going to complain any time someone offers a solution.

This speaks for itself. Your "solutions" would be better with some ninjas on it, and werewolves.

You are being "cruel" and, hopefully... sarcastic, because that's all you have.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 11:11:13 PM »
No it's not, it's just a crude approximation for the sake of brevity.  Jesus fucking Christ, it's simple: unintelligent people are dumb, and this is an undesirable trait; killing them all REMOVES DUMBNESS FROM GENE POOL LOLOLOL (not really, but you know what I mean); result is LOWERED POPULATION (this is necessary) and RAISED INTELLIGENCE (this is desirable), ergo result = GOOD.


"Died/disappeared tomorrow" it's like asking: "if a giant magical hippo appeared and raised the population's average IQ to 130 with fairy dust, would it be good?". Yes, it sounds ridiculous, but now think about the possibility of this magical moron rapture: we can't do anything about it. Useless question.

Asking "wood-chipping" (as an allegory of genocide) and then asking for a YES/NO. False dichotomy.

Easy.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:24:07 PM »
Simply asking "what if all 120s died" is a gross simplification of the matter. You can't expect people to support you if you can't flesh out your ideas or respond to criticism with maturity.

That question "what if all 120s died" in all its incarnations in this forum is useless and/or falsely dichotomic. It's not a brilliant question. I can't understand how some people with a supposed knowledge on argumentation can't see it. No problem with commitment, no fear of acting, no tears: it's just a defective question.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 09:28:18 PM »
They move us into this Complaints infra-world, because they think that we have a case against ANUS. No, at least I have just something against that stupid idea of the wood-chipping, it's a shame and a coincidence, that the moderators support it and avoid answering to the reasonable criticisms, by disrupting threads, and committing a reverse ad-misericordiam fallacy: you disagree with Tard Holocaust, you are an emotional crybaby.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 01:42:10 PM »
C'mon Scourge, why to look the differences towards the Tard Question like emotional reactions? Sounds like a liberal calling conservatives just scared reactionaries. Maybe I have a tard cousin I love and I get emotional about, maybe some people have psychopathic impulses... it doesn't change what, reasonably, most users have been argumented against this far.

Btw, this thread "Complaints" reminds me to the old "Compost".

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:49:15 AM »
Ie. Is ANUS for nihilists anymore?

This is now a death metal forum.

It is for nihilists; however, nihilist tends to mean something other than what most people seem to want it to mean.

What we have here are many people who are lost: humanists, materialists, consumerists, socialists, progressives, dualists, etc. All of those beliefs are not compatible with nihilism.

Moving posts in order to ignore them? You can keep doing and doing this, but you have too much working pending in order to answer the objections to your question. Nothing personal, not a complaint, really, but it's neccesary to point that you aren't answering as you should.

Quit wrecking threads with your whining. And "should"? What are you, Jesus?

You are getting nervous man. But, well, you should answer to the objections of people here against your proposals, it's not a moral command, that's what you do when discussing with people. Moving threads to disrupt your pending issues, and opening new ones to call people whiners, fanatics etc... that's not an answer.

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Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:41:45 AM »
Ie. Is ANUS for nihilists anymore?

This is now a death metal forum.

It is for nihilists; however, nihilist tends to mean something other than what most people seem to want it to mean.

What we have here are many people who are lost: humanists, materialists, consumerists, socialists, progressives, dualists, etc. All of those beliefs are not compatible with nihilism.

Moving posts in order to ignore them? You can keep doing and doing this, but you have too much working pending in order to answer the objections to your question. Nothing personal, not a complaint, really, but it's neccesary to point that you aren't answering as you should.

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Interzone / Re: Bury it, bury it!
« on: April 23, 2012, 10:28:15 AM »
People get fanatical when they're afraid.


They've given you a variety of answers, and then you evade these by pretending that they really mean something other than what they're saying. Every time someone says "No, because it's unrealistic" or "No, because it would have unforeseen consequences" or "No, because these people aren't actually a problem", you fail to address the content of their answer.

This thread is going to produce the exact same responses you've already had elsewhere - what are you trying to accomplish here?

Iron is right. Conservationist, why to keep opening up new threads just for calling people that disagree with you emotional, afraid, fanatical, or having trouble with commitment, when you have quite reasonable arguments unanswered?

The Tard Holocaust (and the sympathy for sociopaths) it's a tremendous plummet for some people here,  that otherwise, could gain influence as sensate paleoconservatives without the need of hiding onder a nickname. Don't misunderstand me: sometimes you can simply remain the sewers, not for having too hard ideas to grasp, or because you are a committed agent of truth, but simply because these ideas are defective.

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Interzone / Re: Metal Hall: the musical
« on: April 22, 2012, 09:11:57 PM »
http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/autism-the-musical/index.html

Was it really necessary to respond this way to your differences with other members here? It's quite passive-agressive, and you are not like that.

I try to be honest and direct against ideas that I disagree with. Specially, when I see good people being limited by them.

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