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Interzone / Procrasturbation
« on: December 19, 2012, 09:37:52 AM »
I realize this isn't a self-help forum, but I've been beating my head against a wall for a while and figured the folks on here had some wisdom to divulge. How do you stay motivated for tasks with abstract, uncertain and unrewarding goals in the immediate future? Tasks which you know you must commit to but for the life of you, evade the dedication and discipline required to complete them.

Repeating mantras to oneself doesn't always work, especially if they're obvious: "Just do the damn thing" is probably the most sane and practical idea to ram into one's head, but doesn't seem to work. I expect that this is the type of advice many would give, but I was hoping somebody knew of a more systematic, rewarding method.

In light of that, this got me thinking: is chronic procrastination merely a product of modernity? I have a hard time believing that warrior societies had any time to bother with procrastinators, who out of necessity had to fight to survive on a regular basis. It seems that procrastination is partly a product of peace and plenty and other parts psychological dilemmas induced through modernity. So then, is chronic masturbation, like other addictions, a genetic weakness one is predisposed and condemned to dealing with? What is the nature of addictions? What way is there to explain believing in one thing and then avoiding it by doing something completely opposite to it?


1. Statement of goals: X must be done. X is necessary for ultimate goals Y and Z.
2. Avoidance through excuse giving: X is difficult/meticulous/unrewarding/time consuming/etc. Time to do A or B.
3. Results in even more unfavourable situation: *feelings of guilt/shame/regret/embarrassment/etc.*
4. Rinse and repeat. Eventually, no excuse is given for step 2. One knows the excuses are only lies to oneself. Bad habit becomes entrenched
5. Unfavourable situations turn even more unfavourable.

Some procrastinators enjoy the avoidance itself and/or the activities they do instead of tending to responsibilities. For others like me, I realize it's a distraction and as a result, it's not truly rewarding and instead soul-crushing.

Interzone / "Guilty pleasures"
« on: October 10, 2012, 07:01:46 PM »
Are we on this forum generally enlightened masters of our emotions and impulses or are there those with guilty pleasures that they choose to cultivate at their own discretion? What is best? To acknowledge that you have a tendency towards the lesser and try to minimize the instances or instead try to purge oneself completely of them? Do personality/idiosyncratic methods come in to play or can we conclude that purging is the most practical method?

I'd like to think of my idealized self and in that existence there being no place for dawdling about like a deluded philistine unable to conceive of any reality outside his asinine feelings, but something else makes me stop and consider the value of entertainment and distraction to the man intent on pursuing higher ends. Perhaps there is a time and place for doing nothing of any value at all if only to clear the mind?

Now, I'm sure a more organic approach would be to replace said desire for distraction/entertainment with regular intervals of meditation, but then again I must ask if that is for everyone? Can I even reconcile a desire to be distracted at times or is entertaining the notion of and engaging in this form of simple gratification a sign of personal weakness?

To give some examples for consideration:
-Television (non-religious viewing of course, various movies here and now, some shows of the marginally more respectable than Jersey Shore variety)
-Video Games (Most of them can only hope to be inspired by great art, but nonetheless some have something resembling a respectable storyline, if at least in the context of gameplay)
-Going out with folks to do any of the above/nothing useful at all/consume some alcohol/light drugs
-Sports (both being involved in as a player and a spectator/fan). Now I'm sure playing a sport certainly can be seen to have some spiritual benefits (as a way to cultivate competition and as a medium for good conduct between players), but being a fan/spectator of a particular player/team seems pathological oftentimes (even in milder flavors)
-etc. (you fill in the rest)

Interzone / Re: Fatherhood
« on: September 01, 2012, 11:27:52 AM »
Besides a lot of what has been said, it seems that if you have a good head on your shoulders (which you seem to have), there isn't too much you can do wrong. Given the impact of genetics on your children, most of what you do is more observing and guiding rather than commanding or ordering, so take some solace in the understanding that parenting isn't as decisive in the way your children come out as you would like to think.

For the most part, it is common sense though.Offer advice, talk with your children, have open communication channels amongst members of your family and support them in their endeavors. If they deviate from what you consider to be good, offer some slightly more aggressive advice making sure to stress the logical repercussions, and if they persist in going in the wrong direction (assuming it isn't urgent or life-threatening like drug addiction or crime), let them err on their own terms and they will come back to you admitting that you told them so.

From my own experiences with my parents, I can't stress enough the part about talking with your children and spending wholesome time with them. Teach them some vital skill. Instill in them the values you yourself embody. Show them the value of abstract versus material/social meaning (ie. pride in one's work and character, humility and modesty, honesty, etc.). And for god's sake, never subject them to passive-aggressive remarks or behavior unless you want your children to grow up with contempt for most of their childhood. Instead, be gentle/tolerant and assertive/aggressive simultaneously. Tolerant insofar as you make sure to understand behavior that deviates slightly from your own views, but isn't necessarily "bad". Aggressive insofar as you radiate the utmost confidence that what you preach genuinely reflects reality.

Parenting experience is of course, invaluable. From there, you apply the general guidelines and your good intentions into practical behavior. If you're not dysfunctional yourself, you should be able to intuit the cause/effect relationships inherent to human communication and adapt/master this facet of existence. Over time, you find a healthy balance, but generally, if you're a functional family and good people, your kids will pick up on this and look up to you as examples. If not, then it was not meant to be in the first place.

Metal / Re: Dead Can Dance - 2012 Setlist
« on: August 26, 2012, 07:04:46 AM »
I was disappointed with the setlist as well. I was hoping that like most bands they would play 3-4 new songs at most, but they played the entire thing to the near exclusion of early DCD classics. From what I can tell, the setlist varies slightly from one venue to the next, but it's basically this:

-All 8 songs from Anastasis
-4 cover songs
-Gladiator track
-2 off Lisa's solo albums
-1 off Serpent's Egg
-1 off Spiritchaser
-1 off Into the Labyrinth

You could say they shat on the older fans and it was disappointing in that respect, but they're talented musicians either way, so it was still a pleasure to see them live.

Interzone / Re: Complaints
« on: August 15, 2012, 07:38:28 PM »
From what I've seen so far, there's no way to change the color layout. It would be nice to have a black background as that is easier on the eyes.

Interzone / Re: How do people cure their addictions?
« on: August 04, 2012, 11:17:02 AM »
Ask them to go thirty days without the substance. This breaks the cycle and in another thirty days new neural pathways can form.

I've read some things on this and some suggest that while it could take 30 days for one person, it may take much longer (ie. up to a year) for others to establish these pathways. Likewise, it's a twofold process of removing the ailment and replacing it with a gratifying practice. Without one, the cure fails.

Interzone / Re: Why is this place a lurker's haven?
« on: July 29, 2012, 01:11:54 PM »
Those comments are generally of the same ilk. They're outraged that someone would even consider metal as an art-form (because it's obviously loud music for angst-ridden meatheads who just want to drink beer and bang their heads). I don't think it's surprising that the majority of the detractors sound like they haven't been metal fans for too long (or have been into the hipster material from the get-go). Yet others who have been fans for some time still refuse to accept the ideas because (for whatever reason that I can't fathom), they don't want to see metal as an art-form with a cohesive ideology/spirit.

There are those who ascribe meaning where there is none (hipsters). Likewise, there are also those who ascribe no meaning to anything and as a result can only decry the notion that metal has anything valuable to contribute. Either way, these people are insensate to the nuances exhibited in quality material and most likely lack any purpose in their own lives.

Metal / Re: Video game music
« on: July 25, 2012, 09:26:49 AM »
Indeed, those are all solid. There's some very solid composition if you dig into all of these lost games.

I recall playing this game ages ago. Just dug up the soundtrack and it's really solid dark ambient:


Planescape: Torment unsurprisingly has some great soundtracks as well:


Interzone / Re: Final moral question about killing and this website
« on: July 25, 2012, 09:05:56 AM »
Morals? Ethics? Sure, we want to keep in mind our "humanity" when we carry out these so-called "dark" tasks, but in light of ecocide, overpopulation and a pattern tending increasingly towards moral decay and decadence, wouldn't it be morally/ethically wrong NOT to carry out such a plan if it were deemed the only viable/logical one out of all other proposed plans? What are the other options? I haven't heard of anything in between eugenics and apathy that is plausible.

In a Woodruffian sense, an irreverent action/being/state when met with irreverence is in turn a reverent action. Most of the people we would be getting rid of are irreverent and the conditions in which they live are most resoundingly irreverent. In light of there being no other reasonable action besides leaving them alone and allowing them to propagate, eugenics seems like a fairly reverent/moral/ethical choice. It won't be "perfect", but then again, when is a solution ever "perfect"?

Though this doesn't really make it any more "humane", I'd like to think of it as a "holy war". The ancient way of life was always riddled with conflict and war and this wasn't thought of in terms of what is "ethical". Certainly, reverence/nobility/honor as well as worship of the gods, but conquest and war was a regular occurrence. Either we begin this war or we die out as certain other traits are favored in this modern environment.

Metal / Video game music
« on: July 22, 2012, 07:05:56 PM »
I'm sure some of us recall playing certain games and thinking that the background music was more well-composed than most modern music.

In particular, I thought I'd share some Matt Uelmen. He wrote a sort of pastoral Romanticist gothic/horror ambient infusing the likes of Brahms, Tangerine Dream, Beherit's EDS, Lord Wind, DCD, etc. into a sort of moving landscape for the first 2 Diablo games. The music is clearly designed as background, but is not without its structural and melodic merit. While not valuable for its development (though it does manage this to some extent), I think it's a good study as a way to fuse various dark and Romantic aesthetics in a modern context.

Original theme from the first game. Probably the most overtly developed piece. I would again term this a sort of pastoral/idyllic ambient mixed with acoustic folk. Some very beautiful melodies intertwining amongst each other and some of my favorite use of orchestral instruments outside an orchestral setting.


Catacombs theme. Something of a darker Dead Can Dance at first and then turning into some really haunting vibes replete with depraved voices scattered throughout as if momentarily intruding the soundscape to remind one of their dread. Like most of Uelmen's soundtracks, cyclical phrases ebb and flow and give way to new developments that arise organically to develop a consistent level of suspense. Unfortunately, it doesn't really "arrive" anywhere in the end, though one certainly gets the sense that in a more ambitious project and without the limits of writing for a video game, Uelmen could flex a wider range of his compositional muscles. That said, the atmosphere is beautiful and it is yet another great example of an ambient aesthetic that has not been explored.


Another haunting piece. Slightly reminiscent of something Endvra could create, albeit a little more Romantic.


This is a little further in his career showcasing a more vibrant, Romantic landscape bringing to mind music befitting a race of noble and proud people. Some brilliant melodies in there and almost a shame they're not given the chance to flourish in the context of a more ambitious form such as a symphony. Nonetheless, powerful.


Another one I very much like and showcasing a very prominent Romantic darkness. One might ask (reasonably) why he should listen to this over Brahms for instance and my answer is that classical music will always be far and away more developed than anything that even so much as aspires to its greatness. However, I like this as an ambient re-interpretation of Romanticism and the melodies themselves are strong. Once again, another drawback here is that it can feel cyclical, though given that its intent is to ebb and flow rather than swell to greater heights, it does quite well.



Metal / Re: Symphonic Extreme Metallers Riul Doamnei post new video
« on: June 30, 2012, 10:04:37 AM »
I had a feeling that "Symphonic Extreme Metallers" translated into "Dimmu-Borgir worship". Some of the melodies aren't bad by themselves, but that streamlined groove-metal approach is just a terrible aesthetic. Reminds me of Dimmu Borgir meets later Vader meets later Septic Flesh, but never goes anywhere. The second video on the other hand is what I would describe as "Nancy boy bullshit" as well.

Metal / Re: Dead Can Dance "Anastasis"
« on: June 30, 2012, 08:51:14 AM »
,,,I think the aesthetic feels more streamlined and hook-driven/populist at times(ie. Children of the Sun feeling almost like a Broadway tune at times, bouncy beat in Agape).
I agree with this. Even so, it's a good album, although it has definitely weak moments. Better than Spiritchaser, and maybe Into the Labyrinth.

It does have weak moments and I find myself thinking that it could have been more structurally ambitious, both micro/macro-wise. But, it also seems to redeem itself in the course of a song. Just when you think Children of the Sun isn't going anywhere, it develops into this sort of Jim Morrison-meets-Frank-Sinatra-Jr. type interlude that seems to channel The End off The Doors' first album. Agape too excels particularly for the melodies it accentuates as it develops. I threw Within the Realm of a Dying Sun on for comparison and it got me thinking that if DCD were in their prime at this point in time, that it would most likely sound similar to what Anastasis is aesthetically.

In addition, I should mention that Kiko (besides the noodling in the end) and Return of the She-King in particular are quite strong.

Metal / Re: Dead Can Dance "Anastasis"
« on: June 29, 2012, 03:07:46 PM »
I've already spun this album quite a bit. On one hand, I feel like spinning it repeatedly and think it's an ambitious effort with the spirit of old DCD. The Lisa Gerrard tracks really stand out. On the other hand, I'm not sure if I think the aesthetic feels more streamlined and hook-driven/populist at times(ie. Children of the Sun feeling almost like a Broadway tune at times, bouncy beat in Agape). But then, it does seem a genuine return to form and given what it is, I think it's rather good (that being a modern comeback album from a classic band). Thinking back to the DCD classics, it has always been hook-driven in a sense and the modern approach is executed rather well. I suppose time will tell if this album will be as lasting as the early ones. Either way, I look forward to seeing them live in less then 2 months time when they come here.

Also curious to see what Conservationist thinks of it.

Interzone / Re: Under 120s gone: better or worse?
« on: May 05, 2012, 07:11:44 PM »
Apparently this forum is full of retards and few think their IQ is even a standard deviation above average (which either means they're being humble or are off the mark). If it is full of retards, then we're obviously oblivious to superior reasoning and should probably stop attempting to get a grasp on any semi-academic topic given the crippling symptoms of the Dunning-Kruger effect in our inability to know when we're using faulty logic. If this is the case, I suggest most of us cease all discussion since it's futile and reserve the real talk for the big boys.

Interzone / Re: Art
« on: April 27, 2012, 06:36:49 AM »
True art!

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