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PROOF THAT DIFRENT SEXES CAN LIFE TOGETHER HARMONIOUSLY IF DIS BILL PASSES ELIMINATE TEH GENDER GAP, YOU SEXCISTS!!!!!1!!!!!!111

In the recent years many writers (such as Wynton Marsalis, defender of manliness in man and lover of femininity in women) seem to have become aware of this strange issue. It seems that the goal of some thinkers and activists is for us to consider male and female as being the same, denying obvious gender differences. I understanding wanting to deny differences between races, such as Negro and Caucasian. While one is better at playing basketball, both have the same intelligence potential. But what we're facing now is a future where everyone will necessarily have no specific gender and probably be bisexual or asexual (in order to get equal pay?).

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These animals aren't from the same class, let alone race.

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Interzone / Re: Today's College Students Lack Empathy
« on: June 08, 2010, 04:01:48 PM »
This forum member, most likely a student himself, admitted he had difficulties experiencing "empathy". His thoughts triggered an interesting discussion:

http://www.anus.com/metal/hall/index.php/topic,8991.0.html

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What you need is a customary metaphysical slap on the face.

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Interzone / Re: Book Recomendations
« on: May 23, 2010, 04:52:15 PM »
"Journey to the Lord of Power" by Ibn Arabi.

What have you read amongst the suggested readings so far and what has inspired you?

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Metal / Re: More useful: what contemporary classical is great?
« on: May 23, 2010, 09:29:13 AM »
ECM New Series is usually a seal of quality for contemporary music. The so-called "New Series" focuses on classical music from any epoch, but mostly recent. The ECM label itself is mainly dedicated to jazz artists. One could easily argue that it is not really jazz because it does not "swing". ECM has an aesthetic of its own, the aesthetic of its founder, Manfred Eicher.

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Metal / Re: Where did it all go wrong?
« on: May 23, 2010, 09:15:05 AM »
Is this band serious?? Do they actually play shows and sell albums??

They do sell ringtones.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 23, 2010, 09:00:32 AM »
I agree that courting is now soulless and shallow. When your education has been fulfilling however, the opposite happens. When confronted with nu-courting, you are somewhat disoriented and unresponsive. A longer chase and more difficult seduction gives you the necessary time to get to know your target before you actually try to "catch" it. The reward is then more substantial and worth preserving.

Is the behavior you support really that different from that of the people you look down on?

Nobody however will let you court for too long. First thing you know, if the physical attractiveness of both subjects matches, according to generally acknowledged beauty standards, the two parties soon get down to it.

Instead of doing this in one night and then breaking up, you do it over a longer period and break up with similar results. How is your method more constructive or fulfilling? Have you found that which each conquest, the next one is that much less valuable - that much less significant?

And what is the motivation? Is the shallow, short-term "love" you feel much better than the shallow, short-term attraction of the Nu-courters?

Sex has been liberated, sex is liberating. Yet nothing will develop one's wits more than a lengthened seduction.

But liberating you to do what?

I think your wits may actually be dulled as it doesn't seem you think about the longer implications of this behavior, just that it feels good to indulge one's feelings, both sexual and emotional.

Were you not the one who a few years ago said you'd given up on love? That would mean your personal experience with it is rather limited, even though things have apparently changed. Especially as a young person, you can't take your feelings too seriously.

I should have made myself more clear. I am actually laughing at the acknowledged idea that sex provides liberation. It's a temporary satisfaction. Behavior shows. I understand that building a relationship is important. I do not accumulate conquests (far from it + i wouldn't praise myself here either), I do not see how you could think that. I did not really comment on me actually, more on what I understand of what is going on with other young people.

Anyhow, I find this thread and ongoing discussion interesting. It has enlightened me.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 19, 2010, 05:37:35 AM »
"Courting for intelligent human beings"; has this book already been written?

No book is needed. People do it all the time like eating, sleeping and so forth. Men take the lead in courting but ultimately the woman gives the yes or no. Try it and lose all doubt.

What's confusing everyone is that we need a new term: Nu-courting. It's streamlined and dumbed down to get to the point because like snared monkeys, people today have allowed their modern lives to get painted into a pressed-for-time corner. Nu-courting is soulless and shallow. It doesn't lead to kids raised right by stable parents. It leads to a ruined population.

I agree that courting is now soulless and shallow. When your education has been fulfilling however, the opposite happens. When confronted with nu-courting, you are somewhat disoriented and unresponsive. A longer chase and more difficult seduction gives you the necessary time to get to know your target before you actually try to "catch" it. The reward is then more substantial and worth preserving. Nobody however will let you court for too long. First thing you know, if the physical attractiveness of both subjects matches, according to generally acknowledged beauty standards, the two parties soon get down to it. Sex has been liberated, sex is liberating. Yet nothing will develop one's wits more than a lengthened seduction.


Si nihil temptes, raro cades.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 18, 2010, 03:52:51 AM »
The thread has shifted away from its initial subject. Can't a bunch of men on a metal music forum properly argue?

The point is: Women are more intelligent.

http://www.thinkinghousewife.com/wp/2010/05/the-decline-in-male-achievement/

Is it perhaps another result of the sexual revolution? More sexual openness weakening men and feminists advocating that female aren't "sexual". Women are becoming the creators men used to be and men the pro-creators women were. There is a saying in art which suggests that women were less present (or rather absent) in pre-20th century art because they did not have the urge to create men had for they could themselves give life (childbirth).

Thanks to however brought up this blog in the first place.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 17, 2010, 12:40:30 AM »
Certainly, I do not praise nymphomania, or satyriasis for that matter.

I not going going to be puritan about it and scorn every "impure" sexual act or expression of desire, but our societal mentality has gone from "This is the right way" to "Nobody's perfect" to "There's nothing wrong with it, really." See a problem there?

That is very true. I'd say the "Nobody's perfect" statement relates to most people, but "There's nothing wrong with it, really" to newer generations which seem to carry the message. Bisexuality, for example, has become a trend or "rite of passage" amongst young people.

Allow to discuss personal experience and not be factual. As I said, I still believe in the idea of building a strong union, but I am surrounded by people who see no real issue with engaging in a random sexual intercourse and having various fuck-friends. Nasty sexual lifestyle for the most part. One could argue that I should change group, but the fact is that I consider myself part of different groups of people (all college or university students on the whole however). The only sexually reasonable people there is are seemingly heavily religious people. Most of them recent immigrants (to North America) and from what I gather, they often do "bend" the rules with people of their own culture. In fact, their allegiance to religion is an allegiance to an ethnicity or race. What's left are religious fanatics, puritans, like you say you are not. You probably aren't, only unselfish. But how many people like you is there in the "real world"?

This is where I am left with no solution except maybe establishing some kind totalitarian government that could control people, mass execution for the weak minded or religion. I feel I do my part in this chaos for I consider myself somewhat detached from the student lifestyle.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 16, 2010, 05:54:58 PM »
... If you are interested in the "myth" of the couple, I also suggest you read Eric Zemmour's "Le Premier Sexe" ("The First Sex", in French only).

I feel the best way is to get to know women. Between pornography and marriage there is friendship, seduction, love and trust.

"The myth of the couple" Sound really progressive. Especially since every human culture has had a form of marriage and put little stock in love outside of it. Why is that, you think?

From the history I learned and the anthropology courses I've taken, I can say that most marriages are business transactions. I do not deny the possibility that one can meet a wonderful person that would be both a life-long friend and a never-ending source of desire, but I do believe such an encounter rarely occurs. In the end, I cannot really see a "solution" to that. If I understand what you said, marriage are always made but affairs are also led on the side. Hopefully so, because Emile Zola and Oscar Wilde would have had nothing to write about.

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Interzone / Re: Sexual liberation or sexual slavery
« on: May 15, 2010, 03:29:07 AM »
The sexual fantasies of men are over-exposed and the fantasies of women undisclosed.

For a long time I thought that sexual desires in a woman made her a slut. Most of the men around me seemed to believe it too. They were fine with this idea. They wanted women to be sluts. It troubled me. Women can't all be sluts or else only women with no sexual desires would be decent. How could any kindhearted man engage himself sexually with any female if only him would benefit from the pleasure. Seduction is hitherto trivialized and the man either consumes pornography or "real" sluts. In the end he is somewhat satisfied.

I suggest Naomi Wolf's book "Promiscuities". This reading taught me a lot about the struggle of women in this post-sexual revolution world. Women do have desires. Women do worth being seduced. Their fantasies connect to those of man in many ways. Nobody however discusses the desires of women. Naomi Wolf concludes her book by saying that women should discuss sex matters with adolescent girls rather then have Tampon companies do it instead. We are led to believe that men are sexual beasts and only marriage can save them. If the man cannot hold himself, he can still go back to pornography. Either way, investments are made. A couple buys a home, a man subscribes to a porn site... If you are interested in the "myth" of the couple, I also suggest you read Eric Zemmour's "Le Premier Sexe" ("The First Sex", in French only).

I feel the best way is to get to know women. Between pornography and marriage there is friendship, seduction, love and trust.

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Metal / Re: More useful: what contemporary classical is great?
« on: April 21, 2010, 03:45:21 AM »
I believe Arvo Pärt wrote great new classical pieces. His work sometime fall short of being truly "contemporary" for it still owes a lot to previous traditions. Youtube has an interesting video of him analyzing his own "Für Alina" piano piece: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c08i_9gumJs. The music certainly touches my heart, brain and soul... guts, not so much. Only Bruckner gets my guts.

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Interzone / Re: Book Recomendations
« on: April 10, 2010, 06:55:27 AM »
"Walden" by Henry David Thoreau.

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