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Metal / So, there is black 'n' roll too, eh?
« on: December 17, 2013, 01:26:48 PM »
Quote from the article: 2011 in Review: The Year in Black ‘n’ Roll

Before we proceed, however, just what is black ‘n’ roll? The answer that first comes to my mind would be some of the more commercially viable offshoots of black metal, which add a ’70s-style glam rock influence (looking squarely at Satyricon here). However, upon closer examination, this is not what I actively consider to be black ‘n’ roll. When I think of the term, I don’t picture gaunt, leather-clad figures with stringy hair rasping about decadence and Satanism. I’d prefer to picture Motörhead on steroids: big hairy men playing big hairy music, with a dose of alcoholism thrown in for good measure. Black ‘n’ roll bands are clearly influenced by first-wave black metal (Venom, Bathory, Hellhammer, Show No Mercy-era Slayer… you get the idea), but are unafraid to add other influences from similarly unpretentious genres to make their music tougher and meaner. Old-school punk, speed metal, ’90s crust, and thrash metal all get thrown into the mix to obtain the roughest sound possible. Despite their differing degrees of influences, these guys, like the best biker gang, have enough of a unity of sound and attitude to be considered a trend: the music by and large sounds like a first-wave black metal band recorded in a second-rate studio around 1984 (only low production values are real).

Damn, in what other way are they going to keep butchering metal?

Metal / The rationale behind growling on death metal?
« on: December 10, 2013, 06:04:32 PM »
The most common explanation I've seen is that it matches the gory/morbid lyrics; but that really can't be given how death metal bands cover a wide range of topics in their lyrics that have nothing to do with gore or even anything morbid.

Another explanation I've heard is that it is meant to express frustration and anger towards the particular subject the lyrics are about. But I am not too sure about this either first due to the diversity of the lyrics and also I think screaming/shouting/shrieking would likely be better choices for that.

Is it simply that it fits the intense music? This is of course highly subjective, given the diversity of the genre both in terms of music and lyrics.

In any case, just putting some thoughts forward to get the discussion going. What's your view?

Metal / Isn't Death n' roll a plague like Deathcore?
« on: December 09, 2013, 06:17:02 PM »
Seem to me like it is just watered down death metal to make it more 'easy listening' and accessible to the masses. Is death n' roll even a legitimate metal subgenre?

Metal / Top 10 Worst Crimes Committed by Black Metal Musicians
« on: November 28, 2013, 05:56:45 PM »
I would be interested in the take by members of this forum on this list. Considering these acts, how do you feel about black metal as a whole, more importantly the people behind the music? These acts impact on metal as a whole, etc. If these acts were done by posers and kids trying to be tr00 or whatever it would be different but here we are talking about the pioneers and prominent figures of black metal.

Here is the list see the article for more details on each:

10. Church Burnings
9. Niklas "Ghoul" Kvarforth
8. Gorgoroth's Black Mass in Kraków
7. Mayhem Vocalist "Dead" found… uhhh… Dead
6. Jef Whitehead Charged with Sexually Assaulting Girlfriend with Tattoo Gun
5. Stalaggh Abduct Mental Patients for Projekt Misanthropia
4. Silencer's Nattramn Attacks 5-year-old with Axe
3. Faust of Emperor Stabs Gay Man to Death
2. Gaahl's Assault and Torture Convictions
1. The Murder of Euronymous

Here is the link to the article:


Personally, stuff like this makes me lose respect for Black metal and it's musicians, it is one thing to talk about gore and death in a sort of tongue in cheek a la death metal, but this is different.

Metal / Good articles or books on death metal?
« on: November 28, 2013, 03:49:45 AM »
Hi, new here..really liking the site  8)

I am interesting in exploring more about death metal, it's history, style, development,etc. I know the article on wikipedia but it is quite simple and have seen some of the articles on this site. Are there any other good articles online or books where one can get an in depth-look at the sub genre? I quite like death metal but want to have a better grasp/understanding of it's history and characteristics and divisions.

Barring that I could probably just post a series of questions/doubts I have about the genre in the hopes that some members of this forum can offer some info?

Additionally, is there a good comparison between death metal and deathcore around which outlines the difference of each?

Appreciate the help.