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Metal / New Godflesh EP?
« on: May 15, 2014, 09:02:33 AM »

Decline And Fall a four-song EP is set to drop on the 4th of June!!! This will include a pair of Japanese-only tracks as usual for Daymare releases. The info, which can be found here in Japanese, lists it as a 35-minute or so release.

    Playing With Fire
    Decline & Fall

I suspect the two extra tracks are remixes/demixes/reworkings of those existing tracks but that's mere speculation.


Sorry if I'm behind the news, but apparently this 4 track EP is coming out very soon. Did not see any mention of it here, so I'll post it.

Interzone / Should this forum sticky a list of essential reads?
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:56:18 AM »
I was wondering, for those who want to learn more about the ideology (for lack of a better word) this website 'officially' supports, should there be a reading list for those willing?

I know I saw a thread like this elsewhere, but why not sticky it on Interzone? Does the admin want to avoid cluttering the top of the feed or something? It seems like a good idea to me.

Interzone / The 'Domain' of Man
« on: April 16, 2014, 01:50:20 PM »
There is a tendency to glorify unimportant things, else conflating the superficial aspects of a meaningful scenario with the afflatus. The domain of man is constrained to the definitions, referents, and bases for his self-sourced way of relating to life.

The problem here? The 'self-sourced' way of relating to life only developed in the aeons of history and academicization of time. To this day, the base of our thinking has been shaped according to the amount of dust accumulating on our holy books, whether they be Kant, The Bible, or otherwise.

We have accrued an exceptional amount of data- yet it testifies not to our knowledge, but our ignorance. The more relativised each successive collection of thinkers becomes, the further we drift from what made any of this possible in the first place- a connection to what made us human, and even further, animals, and even further, alive. Progress means moving away from something. Best we check what our wellspring is, before deciding to leave it.

We have walked a long road, a road which has become ever the more bright, clear, and easily traversed. Yet- this has only come at the cost of having a road to find. When you are smack dab in the middle of a cluttered undergrowth, any direction is 'the right way'.

The domain of man, has become removed from everything but itself. It is, autistic. 'Scholasticism' is not strong enough a word.


Interzone / A helm unerring for the rule of life.
« on: April 16, 2014, 06:50:10 AM »
Or, as it was later translated "On Nature". This was the original title of Heraclitus's fragments and reflects much more deeply on the essence of what it means to live. In fact, the translational scheme from "On Nature" to "A helm unerring" is of the greatest import.

Now what does this imply? This was a guideline for those capable of living by life's own rules- without the pro/con or moral thinking that colors men of lower status (as Heraclitus might have put it). This mode of thinking is the closest to the traditional Nihilistic paradigm. If we are to live then we cannot live under any presumption. We must live in line with life.

A big portion of this is eradicating the 'telos' from your depiction of how to live. *Just* live. Otherwise, you live on a balancing scale, "Be wary of gazing into the abyss, for if you gaze too long it gazes back into you."

Having goals is different from living according to a nebulous telos you are to fulfill. By positing this telos before you have started to *live* you are already fighting a losing game. Merely by living according to the rule of life, you have fulfilled everything that needs to be fulfilled.

The point is not to conquer life, but mould yourself to the rule of the world- nay, the universe. In doing so, you have already conquered the most dangerous of all foes.

Interzone / Blind Folded
« on: April 14, 2014, 06:38:04 AM »

When we’re born, we are born blind, like the kitten, yet we learn to see rather quickly. The imprint our parents produce, of course, is the first and foremost development- alongside our genetic predispositions. These conspire, work, plan, and the format for perception is thus laid out.

The problem is, in today’s world, we often grow into blindfolds. Having only ever seen what lurks on the reverse side of the fabric, we don’t know anything else but the slightly annoying tugging sensation that comes with wearing something a mask. Most people brush it off, the visual stimulus painted on the back side is too appealing, too rewarding, too gratifying.

This can go on for some time; to the extent we lose all sense of direction. Falling down is a change certainly, but the fabricated vision remains, so we walk in circles in our new lairs. We are going nowhere but further into the sight laid before our eyes- we are not even delving inward. We are delving into a surrogate reality, where the lines are blurred and nothing can matter.

What does it take- it takes a basic snip of the string to ‘free’ oneself from the pall. What is hard about this, is wielding those scissors which lie beyond the blindfold. They are an unknown existent, and do we wield them with certainty, just to cut the illusion off at the root? It’s a decision that all folk in today’s western world must make.

Interzone / Try-hard
« on: March 28, 2014, 12:31:58 AM »
Something I've been thinking about. The only people who need to exert effort are those who believe exerting effort will produce results commensurate to the effort put in. All the better if they get unexpected 'returns' on it.

That being said, the 'enlightened' way of thinking about this is to realize the maximum of exertion in ANY field yields the best possible rewards for what one could call himself, and by extension, everybody around them. So there are distinct ways of viewing the spending of energy.

I'm not saying that an economical approach to using our inner reserves is not worthwhile. It oftentimes takes the most power to subject ourselves to such a regimen.

The question is, what of those who do not have to try hard in most areas of their life? Seeing as most other things are insufficient to challenge them, do the brave among them tackle nigh-insurmountable peaks to get the thrill of the challenge? It seems that this is part and parcel of the problem with modern society- it programs a difficulty level tailored for all, thus making life seem 'worthless' and this by extension gnaws at the root of being.

Do we say everything comes together when we sufficiently challenge ourselves? It is a way of indirectly giving to others, that's for sure. It is not a charity to anybody but yourself, but all 'receive from your splendour'.

I apologize for shallow or muddle headed thinking. I admit to a degree of naivete in most areas of life, so what I say may ring limpid and self-evident to you blokes.

The Objectivist dogma seems to suggest that all must be done for the 'self' and 'my consciousness'.

Combining this with Machiavelli's pragmatism (or using it as a way to get what you want) seems to be the height of egotistical thinking. Or, is Machiavelli no longer pragmatic in this scenario because it is applied with regards to a 'self-serving' morality?

Is the problem ultimately the self based philosophy of Obj.? Or even broader: is Objectivism just an 'excuse' to apply stuff for one's own gain?

This may seem rather obvious, but I'm trying to grab a bit of advice on the issue- because I don't see it as difficult for some person stuffed with themselves to go ahead and abuse Machiavelli's terminology like this: "I am a prince. I am not constrained by morality. I will do anything and everything to get what I want."

The prince always just struck me as what is realistically needed to manage a country, but not some term to be applied to self-bloated folks. Or am I walking a dangerous line here unawares?

Interzone / Gustave Le Bon & crowd psychology
« on: February 12, 2012, 05:24:52 PM »
In my history class in school, we're reading a work published in 1896 which rather accurately mirrors ANUS's sentiments on crowds- especially as they appear in the age of modernity.

I have a link to the PDF file  so check it out if interested: www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CCoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fsocserv.mcmaster.ca%2Fecon%2Fugcm%2F3ll3%2Flebon%2FCrowds.pdf&ei=YMA1T9neLoKL2AXHzsH3Aw&usg=AFQjCNGqdFCEszVf8rmFosfq8-bGnvx-dA&sig2=J6Xl1Y8pJRt5-08hI3XAiw

Metal / Trophic levels in metal?
« on: December 18, 2010, 09:13:44 AM »
Trophic levels in metal riffing
Let’s just cut right to the chase. Metal riffing is usually most successful when there is a large transfer of energy from one riff to another, as this is how the song communicates. Multiple riffs or layered riffs in the best metal often manage to achieve complex intertwining tension trade-offs, whether it be the battering complexity of tracks like “Fall From Grace” or poignant riffing of “My Journey to the Stars”.
Melody, rhythm, and just about everything play into this structuring of music.
Trophic levels seem to be a good metaphor for this:


(Losing energy as you travel up the food chain)

Something like that. Much like how trophic levels have certain amounts of energy being transferred from one member in the food change to the next, riffs have that power as well. The main difference is that riffs are not locked into certain energy transfers, but rather by manipulating this, we can see varied results.

For example:

If we take a band that has very high net energy transfer, we get something like this.

(energy is transferred totally from level to level; sturdy structure technique can fail if not enough energy spread throughout. Unlike later FAIL in that it has a large amount of energy that maintains interest.)

In this case, we have a song that transfers all energy from one riff to the next. This tradeoff creates an intense song, maintaining power throughout.

Now let’s take something more complex:

(repetition of A riff later on is given more poignancy by putting in two riffs which help magnify its later recurrence.)

Now, we begin with a riff, before cycling into a riff with a distinct lack of power in comparison to the first (C), but this riff paves the way for the more powerful riff following it, and to cap it off, the initial riff is repeated, creating a  sense of importance.

This structure would be a “journey” as ANUS puts it, as the same riff is used at both the end and beginning, but the last one is more important due to interaction in between. (Mind you that there can definitely be more than 3 riffs, this is just an example.)

Now for ambient, it’s  different:

              ----            ----
        -------               --------
----------          A           ----------
        -------               -------
                 ----      ----
(Different in that the idea is "framed" inside the music, as stated somewhere else on forum)

Now these are the ways you can FAIL.

(Loads of riffs, but there is no journey or real kinetic friction, so something like Necrophagist could be likened to this, “riff buffet”. NO difference in energy levels, and very little to start with)

--A (It's probably C in disguise actually)--

(metalcore, AKA caveman structure. Very little variance, and the small jump in energy from C to B is pretty pathetic anyway)

Metal is interesting in that it can use both the ambient and riff like structure to great effect.

Let me know what you think, what can I fix, I know I ignored some things. Is this an oversimplification?

Metal / Morta Skuld - Dying Remains
« on: August 11, 2010, 05:32:16 AM »
I just listened to this yesterday, and yes it's been released a while ago, but I haven't heard much about it on this forum. I found the record to be a pretty interesting stab at riff structuring. Aesthetically, it seems to be derived from old Gorguts, Cannibal Corpse in some areas, and something else I can't put my finger on. From what I hear, the band uses heavy handed riffs, and then juxtaposes them with a moribund, but more atmospheric solo, before plunging back into the destruction once more. It's really satisfying death metal.

So, I ask the experienced members hear for opinions. I'm making some headway in metal listening, and feel that I am more qualified now to present my opinion.


Metal / Improving Metal
« on: January 17, 2010, 07:03:08 AM »
Look, I haven't listened to metal as long as many others here have, but I feel this is necessary.

I hear in certain threads "A synthesis of styles already established would be good". Let's really push in this direction. Let's combine styles, research into existing ones and pull out individual motions and generate something fresh.
Maybe even longer metal masterpieces, funtioning in the same way a classical piece does? Maybe a synthesis of metal and classical structures?

I may be totally unoriginal, but here is a thread dedicated to improving metal. (Maybe this thread has already been posted, but I couldn't find one like it after checking).

« on: December 27, 2009, 05:39:55 AM »
This band is old news and all, but "Transcendence into the Peripheral" is currently one of my favorite albums. I feel that it is on par with "The Rack" (then again, I only listened to The Rack about two times).

When speaking to other metalheads about this album, they tell me it is extremely boring and one-dimensional. I usually respond with something like: "Just listen to the first track, it is a landmark in ambient doom-death".

Maybe they think it is boring because they listen to about only 2 minutes of all the "heavy" songs. Anyway, opinions?