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Metal / Re: Grammar for metalheads
« on: March 21, 2007, 10:33:17 PM »
It is interesting that the proper use of grammar has declined, since grammar was originally a convention used by scribes and typesetters to indicate how a passage of text should be SPOKEN. It visualized the speaker's tools of pauses, listings, and references to previous sentences. Since genuine oratory is a neglected skill nowadays, it's easy to see how the general populace is lacking in both written and spoken communication skills.

And dog forbid the re-emergence or ascension of languages that rely on changing the word to show its place in the grammatical construction of the sentence.

Metal / Re: (Uniquely) American Black Metal
« on: March 11, 2007, 10:38:34 PM »

Pantera is popular because of it's importance, skill and heaviness. ANUS constantly bashes this band with little justification as to why, but more and more dogma and stubborness.

Skill is rarely a factor in popularity.

When did 'importance' become defined by Black Sabbath worship, meaningless guitar solos and the willingness to jump styles when it's apparent that there's  more money in speed metal-styled alternative Rock than in glam metal? Pantera was, is, and always will be a money-grubbing operation.


American Black metal has more reason to compose works based on the desire for a challenge of the body and spirit than European black metal. European Black Metal is about accepting the challenges that the past has offered and reestablishing healthy, creative civilization.

American Black metal can be about finding the limits of a form when applied to a new physical or spiritual terrain.

While European Black metal seeks to create an ideal future though a restoration of an idealized past, Uniquely American Black Metal could address the creation of an ideal future through a communal journey of the physical and the spiritual.

Metal / Re: (Uniquely) American Black Metal
« on: March 02, 2007, 08:32:42 PM »


Why would black metal bands behave like some idiot punk band, singing about current issues? Black metal attacks the spirit.

In America, that would be the frontier and conquest, and a desire to escape the church, the usurer, the cities, etc.

True American black metal would be based in the rural areas away from the retard population.

Agreed. Black Metal CAN address politics, but it's at its finest when it obviates petty issues and deals with problems through poetry.

Metal / Re: What would a metal society look like?
« on: March 01, 2007, 10:07:32 AM »

Not terribly on topic, but: are you implying the Midwest lacks sufficient water, fertile soil, and game?  If anything, it is one of the regions of the country where all these things are still found plentifully.

Ah, sorry for the generalization. I suppose that I should say that the Mississippi River Basin is a part of the continent where acquiring land with those qualities would be less expensive/frustrating.

Metal / Re: What would a metal society look like?
« on: March 01, 2007, 09:46:56 AM »
I think Glinda had a good point.  There are plenty of towns, especially where i live in the south, with even less than a hundred people.  All you'd have to do is be willing to put forth the effort to start from scratch....and why the hell not?  It definitely seems worth it to me.

Living in the American Southeast myself, I can attest to the lowly populated towns. Mississippi has about 3 million people spread out over 47,000 sq.miles.  Many people still own private land out here, although those that own enough to set up a reasonable-sized town might be few and far between.


Also, unlike the South- and Mid-West, the portions of the Southeast that are part of the Mississippi River Basin are well-watered, with good soil, and plentiful game. It is thought that the River Basin is one of the few places in the world where a responsible hunter/gatherer and agricultural society could exist indefinitely.

Back to topic:

Any metal society that wishes to immediately distance itself from consumer culture could impose a
slightly regulated form of bartering within its jurisdiction. Bartering 5 ewes/2 rams for 3 bicycles, for example, isn't exactly a fair trade because the sheep will reproduce and become a renewable source for trade, whereas the bicycles are nonrenewable and will eventually break down. So, some rule governing the types of exchanges that can be made would be in order.

The easiest course of action would be to encourage trades that recognized quality and equivalence in the goods.  I use 'renewable' as a trait for the judging of equivalence in my example because it's easy to understand. In order to determine quality, the traders could submit their goods to inspect by a recognized master. This would not only encourage fairness and limitation in commerce but also reinforce the affinity to helpful professions within the community.

The idea is not planned out well enough to survive all situations, but it's something to think about.

No one will barter for sex. AIDS may be a renewable resource, but if you have just a little, you have too much.

Metal / Re: CORRUPTing the Southeast: Infoterror Opportuni
« on: January 31, 2007, 05:52:23 PM »
Are there any more of these sort of things planned in ATL or cities close to there?

Metal / Re: Considering the Doors inclusion in Dark Legion
« on: December 17, 2006, 06:37:15 PM »

Robert Fripp, I believe is in the neo-classical section, but King Crimson is no where, you are correct.  Maybe someday.  

What do you guys think about Reign in Blood not being in the metal section, but instead being in the neo-classical section.  Seems kind of pretensious.

Reign in Blood was definitive not just for intensity and heaviness in metal, but for other music as well.

Metal / Re: The history of metal's opposition to Christian
« on: October 03, 2006, 07:05:35 PM »
I think the main reason metal is in opposition to Christianity and Christian values is because unlike many pagan religions, Christianity emphasizes forgiveness. Not just forgiveness among people, but forgiveness of corporations for ruining the environment, forgiveness for the man who burned  your home to ground, forgiveness for the doctor who was too drunk to save you sister when she got in a car wreck, etc.

All this forgiveness is unnatural and retards the growth of a person because it encourages him to exist in a bubble where everything is happy and  no one is wrong unless they don't love and follow your  God. As a Christian, you start forgiving people (and yourself) of preventable failings that, if dealt with correctly, would lead to them (or you) becoming a better person.

Christianity also set up the notion that your spiritual growth and worth could be measured by your material wealth (this concept gained the most strength in America). If you owned less actual property than your neighbor, then it must have meant that God wasn't watching over you as diligently as him, so there must have been something wrong with you.

But you KNOW you're not the 'sinner'  (another horrible concept) in your house, so your thoughts turn to your wife or Daughters. After all, God tells you that they are the more sinful of the sexes, so the 'sin' must lie with them. You can see how this might lead to domestic abuse as well as the greed-driven small-mindedness we see today.

As for the opposition to Judaism,  there's a page I read that talks about how Judaism holds a very virulent hatred  for everything that stands in its way. This hatred is so consuming that Jews seek to destroy everything that is not like them in any way possible. This includes conversion, war, subversion and a whole list of other activities. That only seems to account for some of the hostility that black metal, which is very jealous and protective of its own historical identity, shows for this religion.

(I think that page was out of Nietzsche, but I haven't found it again so I'm not sure.)

Metal / Re: Altars of Madness
« on: September 20, 2006, 07:29:14 PM »

"The gods are pleased with me, they speak my name in tongues..."

That was the one song on Blessed are the Sick that just set something off within me immediately.  The words about unchaining yourself from illusions and the things I'd read about Morbid Angel screwing with established structures in music made sense. It was as if I did "know the texts divine" and had flown " into the storm".  It made death metal mean something more for me. I knew that it was a music of philosophical confrontation with reality, and had known it ever since making sense of Sepultura's "Primitive Future" lyrics at 15. "Brainstorm" made it make sense from an artistic rather than literary standpoint.

Metal / Re: This is what metal is up against
« on: September 19, 2006, 03:18:31 PM »
Mercenary= Melodic Death Metal?

I'm still wondering how he came up with that. Mercenary=Confused and Synthy mess.

Metal / Re: Hessian Meetings
« on: September 19, 2006, 03:15:18 PM »
A couple of months back someone posted a link for an eBooks site that had an emphasis on philosophy. I found that quite enjoyable. Perhaps the Hessian meetings could include some sort of reading list that would provide fodder for renewed discussion at every meeting.

Obviously, (good) books about metal and black/death/experimental metal in particular are hard to come by, but the books of philosophy that some bands base their lyrics on are not. Perhaps one segment of the meeting could be devoted to discussing an album and the specific philosophy it espouses. If it generates good discussion and furthers the cause of the Hessian, then the album and the book would be posted as part of the group's profile or "Favorite books" so that other groups could explore the same discussion.  

Just an idea.  By the way, anyone in Mississippi interested?

Interzone / Re: Metal album covers
« on: July 09, 2006, 12:17:12 AM »
Sepultura's Arise and Beneath the Remains always fascinated me. There's so much going on in those pictures. If you try to focus on one aspect of it, it rearranges itself on you and belies all attempts to understand it, especially the Arise cover. Yet, by focusing intently, you can derive more enjoyment of the image by isolating the parts within and then letting the reintegrate back into the majestic whole.

Metal / Re: Useful metal websites
« on: July 08, 2006, 11:59:22 PM »

Has a good amount of information (mostly reviews) of obscure and famous black/speed metal bands. The main force behind the site has written some very interesting reviews, and takes a decidely different view of black metal than ANUS.

Metal / Re: October Is Hessian History Month
« on: July 08, 2006, 11:51:01 PM »
Why not also celebrate the anniversaries of seminal albums and take their initial release date as a holiday?
Didn't the 20th anniversary of Reign in Blood's release pass this year? Celebrations would be in keeping with the lyrical themes of the album, which for R.I.B. would include gallons of blood and serial killers. Event planners could hold discussions of the album's contribution to metal and other genres.

Metal / Re: The Root of all Evil
« on: June 27, 2006, 08:30:00 AM »

IF that was the trade off for a good society (not  fundamentalist one) I'd make it in a second. Metal just absorbs one's alienation and frustration, it's merely modern: a product of degeneracy that seeks to transcend its origin. In order to do so it would most likely need to sign off on its own obliteration. And good riddance to it, if indeed that opportunity were presented.

People get all uppity about censorship, without seeing the bigger picture. Censorship is bad in a degenerate society because it favours some degeneracies over others, and mostly the wrong ones. But in an ideal society censorship would be totally necessary: it goes with having standards above utter nihilism.

I'd have to agree. I don't see how metal fits into a world where we will breed out stupidity in order to hasten the appearance of multi-talented humans, nor do I feel it would fit in a world where we closely monitor and correct the damage we do to the environment.

Metal is almostly completely based on the mastery of a few instruments: Electric Guitar, Electric Bass, and Drum Kit. The electricity that the Guitar was borne out of is a product of modernity, a society which rapes and pollutes the environment with nothing to justify that action other than very short term gain. Heavy metal music has exhausted the possibilities inherent in the electric guitar. Unfortunately, it is still an instrument tainted by its origin.

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