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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: October 30, 2005, 11:44:09 AM »
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May be the problem is your paents played them while you were growing up?

In my case  it was myself who bought all the LP's up to Discipline and I can assure you're missing something. Even if you find the music of King Crimson to be old and boring you should admit Fripp is a monster playing guitar. I've seen K.C. live and it's impressive to see him playing. Just pick any KC DVD and take a look, considering you're not impressed through your ears.












Your post is very mature, and helps me forget about the kiddie attitudes that tend to proliferate on Metal forums in general. Thank you.
Your post alos made me think, and I am really grateful for that.
It wasn't my parents (t hey'r the ones that turned me WAY off of Santana...a perspective I later found entirely valid later in life) . The people that  used to play KC around me in college were mainly
disgusting, hippie-dippie-hug-a-tree-and-suck-off-your-nearest-negro-types.
I ended up turned off to the idea of checking Fripp out
in any way objectively, I have found the way to open my mind more and give him another try. It's a bit much to ask once again for your opinion, as you have already helped me a great deal, but could you
reccomend a sopecific video of Fripp that is your own favorite (i.e., showcases the lead guitar playing in particular?).
Again, your patience, help,and
maturity is greatly appreciated. It can be rare to experience such on this type of forum. Or perhaps I am still experiencng Full Moon Productions kiddie fallout.

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Metal / Re: Praise Hail Satan (and Jesus?)
« on: October 25, 2005, 09:01:57 AM »
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Slayer is about the image and music, it’s a show. If a horror director made an awesome movie about Satan ect. Does he need to be a Satanist, the answer is no because it does not detract from the movie nor does it from the music in Slayers case…. We all know the story why Proscriptor (spelling?) does not play with Slayer so it is all of them really…



Impressive insight. Thank you.

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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: October 24, 2005, 05:20:17 PM »
By the way, Becker is a fantastic guitar player, most probably anyone that impugns him has experienced failure as a guitar player him or herself. I can't say he's as good as some of the other neo-classical players like Joe Stump or Malmsteen, but very few men ARE.
The ones whom are most dismissive of technically advanced guitar players are the ones whom are most transparent in their agenda.
Succinctly put: jealousy.

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Metal / Re: Emperor
« on: October 24, 2005, 05:15:33 PM »
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So let them rot now, and and remember them for then.



In the Nightside was a Classic. Anthems and Equilibrium had their moments. After that, who gives a fuck? STAY ENDED,EMPEROR!

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Metal / Re: Praise Hail Satan (and Jesus?)
« on: October 24, 2005, 05:13:58 PM »
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Luckily, Tom Araya is (was) unimportant to the band in almost every crucial aspect.



Is this true? I like Araya's voice, I feel that he was a valuable, hardcore punk influence on the band up to the only half-good DIvine Intervention.

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Metal / Re: Burzum 101
« on: October 24, 2005, 05:06:21 PM »
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Why post this?



Perfect question. It's hilarious watching people make more out out (WAY more) out of Varg VIkernes than what he's always been, (a fucking idiot). And that is coming from a man whom has worshipped the pre-jail Burzum releases for over twelve years.
It's like people don't read his interviews carefully. Vikernes exposed himself as a total fuckhead ideologically back in Kerrang in 1992. Even the neophyte whom reads Lords of Chaos can easily get a good idea of how dumb he is. Even better, attempt to objectively read his outrageously trite, overall badly researched and puerile and "book".
Who gives a fuck anymore?

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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: October 24, 2005, 04:57:47 PM »
Okay, now I DO feel a bit uninformed/ignorant. I grew up hearing my parents play ALL the King Crimson albums. What am I missing? Thanks for any enlightening suggestions (no sarcasm intended).

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Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 18, 2005, 10:47:41 AM »
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Maybe your current attitude to black metal doesn't need a grail-like band to jold you out of your contempt.

Maybe it's time to explore elsewhere. Your sentiments have been expressed by others before you, and they haven't necessarily just been reabsorbed by a good release.

I've only given newer bands like Kristallnacht, Deathspell Omega, Funeral Mist, Antaeus, ad infinitum  the most cursory glance.

You know the truth: nothing is going to beat the heights of the greats, so stop bothering. Stop wanting more of your niche to consume.  There's no need to keep abreast of new releases in the scene.


Your post said it all, and quite insightfully, thanks. I'm going to take your advice.

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Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 16, 2005, 10:48:26 AM »
I think that most people over the age of 17 understand how Euronymous and Varg were mainly making declarations geared toward making themselves well known. The only one whom seems to have lived the type of "death is everything/people are shit" attitude is Dead, whom (mainly due to this philosophy) of course killed himself.
The actions of Varg and Dead, as well as the many other 1993 Norsk bands, were those of impetuous youth. Vikernes got stuck into a particular mind frame once he was imprisoned, and still sounds like the barely over twenty naive person like he did when sentenced for killing his mentor. The idea of so many younger Volk holding onto his every word is a sad indicator of the modern times we live in. Varg's "philosophy" is one of arrested youth...full of ressentiment (meant in the fullest, Nietzschean sense of the term). His best work was behind him when he recorded Filosofem...only Daughters of the Firmament  is close to matching the quality of the albums preceeding it.
The only albums that have given me the type of thrill that 1990-1998 Scandinavian Black Metal did have been Buchenwald Oven's debut, and Kristallnacht's first full length. There have been other, very good NSBM releases since (and no, I can't count myself as a diehard NS  man, but nothing of the same caliber besides of coursethe first few Graveland full lengths.

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Metal / Re: Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 15, 2005, 04:41:29 PM »
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Averse Sefira is the most ostensible standout. Vinterriket is quite good, though is noted more for neoclassical music of a different genre. Graveland still stands strong.


Hate Edge, thanks for reminding me on the AS and Graveland, I have been a pussy and kind of ignored their last two releases. Because of you, I'll check out their recent stuff, as well as the Vonterriket.
To me, the first two Burzum, Immortal,Emperor, (post Soulside...) Darkthrone, and Mayhem releases (Deathcrush and Live in Leipzig) aren't going to be beat.I also agree that the "new' Black Metal which would rock people the way the Norwegians did in 1993 would have to be just as intense and seemingly alien as their sound was.
That said, alot of people are going to get pissed ab0ut this, but I STILL feel that Under the Sign of the Black Mark was the best ever BM album.

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Metal / Black Metal...Drying Up?
« on: October 15, 2005, 11:14:49 AM »
I keep listening to newer BM, trying hard to like it, but except for some choice NSBM I would rather go listen to Det Som Engang Var, In the Nightside Eclipse, or Live in Leipzig. I noticed myself reaching more often for Beethoven than ANY Black Metal put out in the past seven years. In fact, the only thing I found of interest in the past seven years was Sweden's Victimizer (a THRASH outfit).
I fopund Craft so derivative and inept as to be laughable. in fact, I'm profoundly bored by the Darkthrone.Burzum/Emperor wanna-bes. Sounds like alot of teenage boys that are grasping onto a genre that doiesn't require much technical skill. Kind of like Punk Rock in the '70's and Grunge in the '90's. Yippee.
A band like Dragonforce opened my eyes to just how Rabble-ready a genre like Black Metal is. After the great Scandinavian albums came out (I count the last of that lot as being Nemesis Divina, Panzer Division Marduk) all the kids whom couldn't really play any instrument or compose joined forces (in a disturbingly Leftist manner) to outevil each other.
Perhaps "being evil"/"fascistic" is simply another way to attempt scaring mommy and daddy? Becaus e so many children have joined the "ranks", its obvious that few dare to admit the fact that it's no longer shocking...if it ever was.
Anyone here have a name that should jolt me out of my current attitude toward Black Metal?

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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: October 11, 2005, 10:04:54 AM »
Well, this topic looked promising at one point.


Au fond pour moi: Robert Fripp I find excruciatingly boring. Ritchie Blackmore, Michael Schenker, Jason Becker I find consistently interesting and invigorating.  That's just me. I got even more bored  three replies after this topic,finding a bunch of semi-coherent people in love with their own opinions making sure to stress the importance of their completely subjective ruminations.
If you like something and wish to write about it, you come to a forum. I guess the main objective is to see how others think about subjects. But when it degenerates into an heated opinion fest, there are too many more fulfilling things to do with my life. For all those whom took the time to stay a little open and interesting, I sincerely thank you.
For the others, See ya when I'm really bored again.

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Metal / Re: Growing out of Metal?
« on: September 22, 2005, 02:38:44 PM »
I have listened to Metal (as well as neo-classical shred and Baroque Classical music) for most of my life. I'm in my late thirties now.  
I'll never stop listening to the type of music that I love. Why would I? That would be self-hate. Another example of self hate would be to shit all over something you once loved. Nietzsche wrote how one devalues one's life when being contemptuous toward one's past.

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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: September 22, 2005, 02:32:18 PM »
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You know you're missing the point when:

You think Robert Fripp is supposed to "rock"


Honestly, you threw me with such an intelligent comeback. I guess I underestimate this board sometimes, especially after reading how one of the most recent topics on NSBM ("failin") was utilizing an fmp666.com link to back up his argument.
You have an excellent point, and i feel foolish. I guess I should revise what I wrote to mean that I would rather hear Progreesive music which Rocks, rather than ElP types of stuff. Don't take that as an insult, Irecognize that both ElP and Fripp's band are terrific musicians.  I guess it's just not my cup of tea.

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Metal / Re: Jason Becker's Perpetual Burn
« on: September 22, 2005, 01:30:54 PM »
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Jason Becker better than Robert Fripp?

 ::)

What the hell were you thinking when you typed that?


Answer:

"Whom is more complex melodically, represents his passion more understandably, and is overall more dexterous?"
In some cases, like Iommi and Blackmore, it doesn't matter as much how dextrous they were. They had an individual style, and I would like to be fair and add that Fripp certainly had a distinctive style his own. Yet Fripp fought to be progressive, and compared to the other guitarists whom were reaching for a similarly progressive sound and playing mode (Ritchie Blackmore, with Schenker and Roth close behind) Fripp falls out of their league. His band was mostly forgettable drivel, and rarely seemed to come up with anything that could fit the definition "Rock". Compare that to Deep Purple, Blackmore's Rainbow, or the Scorpions. There is no comparison.

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