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Messages - MasterEnslaver

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Interzone / Re: Parent-Child communication
« on: October 21, 2009, 07:51:11 AM »
Your perspective of your reasoning with reference to your parenting is your assessment.

So, 'Your perspective of your perspective with reference to the major factor in your perspective is the end result of your perspective'

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Interzone / Re: Signs of a dying society
« on: October 20, 2009, 06:37:31 AM »
1. We don't want to work.
2. Nobody wants to sacrifice.
3. We're uninformed.
4. We want the best of everything, but don't want to pay for it.

These hold true throughout human existence. Democracies don't create these attitudes, democracies enable these attitudes to become actions...

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Interzone / Re: Parent-Child communication
« on: October 20, 2009, 06:35:46 AM »
So, an individual examining an exterior aspect of his/her existence is doing something "akin" to an individual attempting to understand themselves from an exterior perspective.  Yes, that makes sense.  (Interior -> Exterior) = ((Interior <- Exterior) -> Interior).

You can't assess your parenting because the influence of your parenting on your perspective is too deep-seated to do anything but pollute your reasoning in making your assessment.

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Metal / Re: Is honesty at the base of all good music?
« on: October 18, 2009, 10:55:43 PM »
Paul Ledney is a spoilt brat with a ridiculous sense of entitlement and unwarranted self importance. The music he makes is probably the result of an epic internal struggle between his views of himself, the world/the way he thinks it should be and reality. For some reason he has been gifted with extraordinary musical abilities and so the result is Profanatica - an amazing expression of hatred, rage and jealousy.

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Metal / Re: Can metal be "true"?
« on: October 18, 2009, 10:48:03 PM »
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Like yourself I've been on both sides of the ‘true' metal debate, but for a few years now, I've tried to stop myself when the instinct to castigate emo-kids for their flawed perception of the true ‘metalness' or ‘alternativity' of the pop bands they like flares up. The thing is, think the concept of ‘true' metal is a flawed one, and metal is an overarching uber-genre for anything which has heavy elements, and there are a thousand sub-paths and applications of the riff, the shred and scream (the key components of metal) so in my eyes, no metal can be construed as ‘true.'

You speak in derogatory terms of simplified, slowed down riffs as if the faster, more complex approach is the most praise-worthy one. I have to disagree, as I find it a LOT harder (yet more satisfying) to play a slow, weighty riff than to rattle off a series of super-fast and technically wonderful riffs and licks. The truth is, the quality is in the eye of the beholder and for every metal fan who loves Dragonforce, or Dream Theater, another will prefer Slayer and Napalm Death and another will prefer Metallica and Megadeth. There is no truth, no definitive style.

In my eyes the difference between true and false metal is not a stylistic one, but one of intention and application. I don't care if your riffs are fast or slow, if your arrangements are traditional or progressive, if your vocals are clean or screamed. Metal is about displaying passion through music, most often anger, pain and (even better) the positive aspects you can draw from those emotions, such as determination, resilience and self-identity.

Lyrically, this can be achieved through direct cathartic lyrics (as you dismiss it, the ‘woe is me' approach) or more metaphorical lyrics dealing with historical, mythological, supernatural or horror themes.

Musically, this can be achieved by just loving playing, and really digging the emotion from your strings, skins and mikes – I have no problem with a band of lesser skill, so long as their heart is in the right place (I call it Punk…), while a technically awesome band of arrogant poseurs will put me off no end.

This is similar to the way I view MMA fighters, where I tend to like a fighter based on their ‘gameness' or willingness to bring the fight, but also appreciate their technical skill level. This is why I like Clay Guida and (until UFC 101) Forrest Griffin over more accomplished grapplers. Of course, the best way to be is to be game AND talented, like BJ Penn or Diego Sanchez.

Lastly, if fast, complex and heavy denotes ‘true metal' then how do you fit bands with comparatively slow riffs such as Judas Priest, Black Sabbath and Celtic Frost into ‘true metal' – "A Dying God Born Into Human Flesh" is one of the most ‘simplified' songs I've ever heard, yet it is utterly awesome, heavy and undeniably metal.

Likewise, to contend that having pop sensibilities in a song stops it being metal is ridiculous – pop sensibilities basically denotes a song you can sing along to with a distinct, repeated chorus. Almost everyone uses it, and I defy any band to not have better production, a haircut and a wash as & when they get a decent record deal. That is not the same as being ‘pop' or selling out.

Basically, the true metal thing always bugs me, and I am ashamed to have done it, as it is always a sign of someone essentially wanting to be cool and different somehow. You tend to find people who earnestly use phrases like ‘true metal' are the kind who were outsiders in school (or wherever) and turned to heavy music to give themselves something to feel knowledgeable and special about. Hence when a heavy musical trend catches onto the mainstream, they get very huffy indeed and don't want all these newbs playing with their toy.

http://www.411mania.com/music/columns/116041

I don't think he understands: true/non-true means did you deviate from the spirit of the genre and your own music in order to pander, or expand your audience to less discerning/alienated tastes?

Why is this so hard -- oh, that's right. 2009.

He basically said that he doesn't feel qualified to give an objective and conclusive verdict on what is true/non-true in metal, but that 'true metal'' to him does not 'deviate from the spirit of the genre and your own music'

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Metal / Re: Lesser known early forms of metal
« on: October 18, 2009, 10:43:38 PM »
Try Captain Beyond. When the plug for my hard drive is returned I can give you a small list of bands

Bedemon/Pentagram, Death Row and all pre Pentagram bands are also probably worth a look but you probably already know them

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Interzone / Re: Parent-Child communication
« on: October 18, 2009, 10:32:38 PM »
Accuracy in assessment of one's own parenting is not necessary from one's own point of view, as it is not the parenting itself, but, rather, the effects of the parenting, that have contributed (or will contribute) to the creation of the person that the individual is question actually is, thus it is the individual's interpretation of the individual's parenting which shows whether or not the parenting was good/bad, effective/ineffective, etc.

That was probably bullshit.  Give me time, I'm slowly learning how to come up with this bollocks...

The individual's perspective is given to them by their parenting. How anyone can reliably and objectively assess their parenting through this perspective is beyond me. It's akin to trying to psychoanalyse yourself. It's the mental equivalent of trying to carry yourself around in your own arms - impossible.

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Interzone / Re: Parent-Child communication
« on: October 18, 2009, 12:47:22 PM »
Discipline, self-reliance and a deep-seated, unshakeable sense of self-worth should be what any parent ultimately aspires to instill in their children - really, they are either all present in a person or all lacking. Needless to say they must all be present in the parent, but they rarely are, and so each generation is worse than the last. Parents instinctively baby their children, I suppose, because every human deep down would love to be babied. It's so easy for people to equate 'babying' with 'loving', but if these parents had self-discipline, they could control their babying instincts and teach the child the same quality. That would be a truly loving act, rather than narcissisticly patronising.

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I have a feeling that potential parents may become retards at the point at which they become parents, with few exceptions.  My parents used a mixture of the two methods in the post above this, and I turned out well enough, by my own standards.  I have a very good relationship with my father, who has more often offered the "this is how the world works" form of teaching, while my mother occasionally slips into "because I say so".  I also have no idea why there are two schools of thought, one advocating "positive reinforcement" (a child is rewarded for doing something "good"), the other advocating "negative reinforcement" (a child is reprimanded for doing something "bad").  Both are correct, in good measure.  Don't let a child get away with absolutely everything, and don't let a child remain unrewarded for "good" actions.

Then again, what is "good", and in whose eyes?  The child's, or the parents'?

Nobody can accurately assess their own parenting, haha. Your standards for 'well-adjusted human being', just like your standards for nearly anything else, are rooted in your upbringing. Also,

Positive reinforcement - reinforce behaviour by providing a pleasant/positive stimulus
Negative reinforcement - reinforce behaviour by removing an unpleasant/negative stimulus
Punishment 1 - discourage behaviour by providing an unpleasant/negative stimulus
Punishment 2 (another term for this, but I forgot it) - discourage behaviour by removing a pleasant/positive stimulus

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Interzone / Re: The physical devolution of men
« on: October 18, 2009, 12:32:26 PM »
Men today are not trained for a very physical lifestyle.  This sedentary lifestyle eventually affects genetics and future generations.  If people were trained from a younger age for physically demanding work and leisure, they could over a few generations make up for those gains.  If our physical prowess is less than that of our agricultural ancestors, think of what our more distant ancestors were capable of.  The Mongols, Manchus, Turks, Plains Indians, and others were able to achieve great deeds because of their lifestyles, religious systems, and cultures.  Our ancestors were cro-magnon, hunter-gatherers with robust bone structure capable of great strength in fighting and labor, and the indo-europeans, invaders with a technological edge.  The two mixed in varying proportion throughout Europe and Asia, but the strongest people have more cro-magnon influence.  We can recover a semblance of the power of our ancestors if we commit to training.

Your body is in fact made to make great gains in a short period of time even if not to the caliber of athletes.  Four hours of exercise a week can do a lot.  Now, visualize if your lifestyle revolved around physical exertion.

Certainly not in a period of 2000 years.

I saw an article - don't know if it's the same one - that talked about ancient man's athleticism being far greater than modern man's. On one hand, we have, obviously, a far better understanding of physics, anatomy, diet, training etc and so we have people like Usain Bolt whose athletic achievements were equalled by no man before him - modern or ancient. Similarly, we have far better access to crap food and effortless entertainment, and we have people so fat they can't leave their bedroom - their obesity certainly not rivalled by any ancient human. As has been pointed out, it's a devolution of culture and spirituality, and has nothing to do with genetics.

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Metal / Re: death infact came before possessed
« on: September 29, 2008, 09:24:40 AM »
Why do people still try and pinpoint the exact moment, band, demo or whatever that created Death Metal? Clearly there are countless bands appearing from all over the world around the same time:

1984 - Poison, Sepultura, Possessed, Death/Mantas, Messiah
1985 - Insanity, Archenemy, Master, Death Strike, Black Dethe, Savage Death, Terminal Death
1986 - Deceased, Hellpreacher, Imperator, Massacre

many more that I have no doubt forgotten

It is hopeless guys, you will never find your answer.

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Metal / Re: Profanatica - Profanatitas De Domonatia
« on: September 29, 2008, 09:20:45 AM »
Just wondering, when you were interviewing Paul Ledney, why didn't you ask him about addiction to myspace black metal drama, or his sending fat girls free CDs for naked pictures, or his generally being a fat loser?

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Metal / Re: Metal history through influential bands
« on: July 23, 2008, 10:02:00 AM »
Blasphemy, Sarcofago

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Interzone / Re: How to reform metal?
« on: July 14, 2008, 11:06:41 PM »
Gonna have to disagree, MasterEnslaver.  The point is to separate quality art from "look-at me" crap, as you seem to have acknowledged - so who cares if the idiots don't know the meaning of the word 'integral' or 'esoteric?'  The types of metal-heads who cry at the word elite aren't sure of themselves, and probably lack understanding of metal's underlying philosophy.  They are the same types you see on forums who regard ANUS as "pretentious," because there are big scary words on this site, and that makes them feel small.  Great metal was not meant for these types, so why make decisions in regard to their lack of knowledge?  That's akin to the school systems decision to lower standards so that the dumb kids can feel equal.

I see what you mean, but if you want this tag to spread, then using a word like 'integral' or 'esoteric' that many people don't know, or a word like 'elite' that most people know, don't understand and hate will not help that cause. On the other hand, I can see the point in calling it whatever we want, and letting those worthy of listening to and understanding it figure it out themselves, which is probably a better approach as it would mean bands aren't going to label themselves whatever our tag is.

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Interzone / Re: How to reform metal?
« on: July 13, 2008, 11:02:54 AM »
Future metal sounds alright.

More suggestions:

Integral Metal
Elite Metal
Hessian Metal
Holistic Metal
Total Metal

'Elite metal' is not a good idea, nobody is going to spread that around because most people get angry and indignant as soon as the word is mentioned.
Also, if you want people spreading it around/something catchy, nothing with more than 2 syllables (at the very most) will work and definitely not a word that isn't in the stupidest of people's vocabulary... look at existing genre names: black, death, thrash, doom, power, speed... these are all simple words that were already in just about every English-speaking person's vocabulary (except thrash).

Anyway, the reason that metal is what it is at the moment is because every kid with a microphone and the internet instantly has a home-studio to put out whatever crap demo you want, because its bound to get lapped up by crappy distros who take whatever they can get. Regression and poor musicianship are celebrated, there are plenty of bands out like Revelation of Doom and Throneum that claim they are 'regressive death metal' or 'regressive black metal', and tell everyone that they are proud to be taking the genre nowhere, and that they're basically tribute bands to the old scenes. I suppose this is how an idiot reacts to realising how shit brutal/tech death metal is.

Yep so to wrap it up, you need a short, simple word that everybody knew the meaning of beforehand.

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Metal / Re: War metal
« on: July 13, 2008, 02:17:54 AM »
Blasphemy, Conqueror, Revenge, Order From Chaos (i hate this band but whatever), Bestial Warlust, Beherit (not Drawing down the moon though), Abominator, Damaar, Proclamation, Kulto Maldito, Anal Vomit, Goat Penis, Goat Semen, Diocletian... these are all what is considered war metal... not Immortal, Bolt Thrower or the 'Aussie bm' scene (if you are thinking of D666)

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