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Metal / New Godflesh EP?
« on: May 15, 2014, 09:02:33 AM »

Decline And Fall a four-song EP is set to drop on the 4th of June!!! This will include a pair of Japanese-only tracks as usual for Daymare releases. The info, which can be found here in Japanese, lists it as a 35-minute or so release.

    Playing With Fire
    Decline & Fall

I suspect the two extra tracks are remixes/demixes/reworkings of those existing tracks but that's mere speculation.


Sorry if I'm behind the news, but apparently this 4 track EP is coming out very soon. Did not see any mention of it here, so I'll post it.

Interzone / Re: Staying up late
« on: May 10, 2014, 03:05:37 AM »
I've always fancied the night as home to a thousand dawns: there are so many suns to catch your eye when our gloating one does not steal the show. Corny, but there.

Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 10, 2014, 02:57:18 AM »
Common to those who lack understanding and to those who have it is a desire to know- despite the strong differences between such notions. This is the great fault as I see it- the desire to know is quite often embattled by the things we cannot know through this desire.

I like to think that when things mean differently to varying individuals something akin to 'coal to diamonds' makes itself known.


I dislike sectarianism though, because understanding is common to all fields of inquiry- though fields are all artificialized. We could probably translate this thread title into something a bit less 'specific' and more common to certain relative positions. Sorry for the obfuscation here, it's hard for me to put into words what I mean.

Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 10, 2014, 02:53:09 AM »
Amor Fati is 'everything' and 'nothing' simultaneously, if we announce a preference for a Psychological view of the world. Amor Fati is a 'close to existential' phrasing of Panta Rhei as I see it.

Accept the Inexorable, for That art Thou. Is how I'd sum up my understanding of it.

Smoley Holey, time to do some reading.

Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 08, 2014, 10:28:12 PM »
I've cogitated this one many times, or rather, amor fati is the condition I find myself 'alighting upon' after traversing a 'thought cliff'.

The thing is, people want 'things' to do stuff 'for them'. What does "amor fati do for me? Does it make me happy"? Zarathustra might reply, "Not just happy, but more blissful than any of the beatified saints." Though people would likely misconstrue this- that is possibly the bottommost, hadal flaw.

The thing is, Growth is Intrinsic to Amor Fati, for it cedes humanity's place in the cosmic order. We are the king of only our own affairs, king's of a small stretch of intentionality, where we can choose to 'act' only on a small square of available info. ( I have a feeling this paragraph might attract a few rotten tomatoes)

Amor Fati is, as you two specifically have pointed out, commensurate with admitting one's own foolishness. I've seen quite a few people who go about claiming that 'we're all dumb' only to implicitly admit that this makes them more learned than everybody else- or that they deserve a higher rung in the ladder.

Interzone / Re: Are offensive or dangerous ideas metal?
« on: May 06, 2014, 12:11:37 AM »
As I see it, this is what occurs when "social stratum" intercepts anything. Metal becomes a mere component, badge of identity in an already brimming sea of similarly superficial traits (even multiculturalism's understanding of culture reduces the latter to similarly dire straits).

So, I think dangerous ideas were a way of responding to THIS. The genre would cease to lose appeal if it lost touch with this base (which it has) and people who espouse it are outdated droids as far as the 'modern' fan base is concerned. As it is, Metal can either up the ante (Attack what's politically correct to ostracize itself) but this seems heavy handed and perhaps backwards (to me).

At the same time the "Wimps and Posers leave the hall" becomes harder to hear when all around you are folks debating if Liturgy is metal. Metal is exhausted because a new fanbase has cluttered it. When the genre peters out on all fronts, we shall see if metal makes a grand re-entrance- if it does, then you can thank the stars that Metal has and always will be relevant in the Sea of nonsense- an eternal force to be venerated in its own way.

Though more important than talking about potentially politically incorrect ideas is building your music to be abrasive and not pandering, regardless of 'what you talk about'. Though all of this goes without saying.

Sorry for rambling, just some thoughts.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: April 26, 2014, 01:15:41 AM »
This is meant to be with reference to our time's today I'm guessing? With the lack of necessity braiding the land and selecting the most potent societies (for a variety of reasons I presume) taken as an assumption?

Even then, I'm a bit skeptical as to this approach, for it appears to render cities big 'employment zones' for a single set of purposes. I think it's fine to have an activity one's city takes pride in (Look, I come from Genoa! Pesto! Radical huh?!?!?) but ultimately this does not propagate the amount of tension to inspire creativity.

I mean, would this model of society have space for your Nietzsches?

Edit: Though perhaps it will be said, NO society could ever have space for a Nietzsche, which is precisely why they're a Nietzschean type of mind. Though if civilization and circumstance is responsible for the cultivation of these characters, then what would this society have going for it? Ah whatever.

Interzone / Re: The problem with rationalism
« on: April 24, 2014, 01:12:36 PM »
It seems even more primordial however.

If you ___ it at all, you lose the ghost. When you just stop, you realize you are it.*

And DMBM, what you say in the above quote reminds me of Quine's "indeterminacy of translation"- though I doubt you believe in quite the same thing that he has in mind.

Edit*: Of course, some people will misinterpret this quote and adduce the 'ego' instead of 'that art thou'

Interzone / Re: The problem with rationalism
« on: April 24, 2014, 11:48:37 AM »
Could the preferred middle ground perhaps be that empirical data forces a recalibration of phenomena within the same 'game' that empiricism functions 'within'? Perhaps this solution 'solves nothing' and in that case ok.

Also, when people say 'empiricism' versus 'rationalism' I tend to think of two vying positions towards reality rather than the expression of reality itself. The difficulty is that reality reveals itself through both (in an inadvertent way). I guess my definition of empiricism is this 'a position towards the world not sourced in the world, though the results it accumulates are' which is why it is not ideal. Though please inform me if my reasoning is unsound.

Interzone / Re: The problem with rationalism
« on: April 24, 2014, 05:36:46 AM »
This reminds me of the MBTI function "Ti" which conceives of things in first principles according to how they fit into a logical scheme. Introverted Thinking refers to a self-referential and internally coherent set of norms, more than a little traumatized when it has its windows broken in by reality.

Rationalism should not be a philosophical movement, but rather known for its value in dissecting the 'nexuses' we perceive in life. Then comes the problem of the tail wagging the dog, which is what many of the issues related to this one entail.

Though with regards to "self-bias equals reality-bias", do we really *believe* this- or is the tacit acceptance of it the "Veil of Maya"?

Also, with regards to speeches... The same genealogy of manipulation is to be found in the most basic sloganeering and buzz-word behaviorals. By making the info as bite size as possible, it exacts the most potent result based on the shortest vocabulary expenditure. This is part and parcel of Civilizational decline as well.

Interzone / Re: Should this forum sticky a list of essential reads?
« on: April 24, 2014, 05:31:45 AM »
After further thought:

Having a "recommended book list" is so 1995.

Instead, how about a list of the best books on every topic?

I suggest we derive inspiration from this:



A novel idea. We could also have typically Anal descriptors for each section header... E.G. "Art rhymes with Fart!" for the uninitiated.

Most importantly is that this is a more accessible format, a desirable trait for newcomers. Bite size bite size. Though if you do this, append the following message: "Reality doesn't come in bite-sizes, take it like a man!" and conceive of a *R33l Sodom1zers* list following the Demilich anagram format for each book title.

Interzone / Re: Should this forum sticky a list of essential reads?
« on: April 23, 2014, 06:23:39 AM »
Talk about a lack of initiative on my part. Sorry bout that.

Interzone / Should this forum sticky a list of essential reads?
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:56:18 AM »
I was wondering, for those who want to learn more about the ideology (for lack of a better word) this website 'officially' supports, should there be a reading list for those willing?

I know I saw a thread like this elsewhere, but why not sticky it on Interzone? Does the admin want to avoid cluttering the top of the feed or something? It seems like a good idea to me.

Interzone / Re: It could be worse.
« on: April 23, 2014, 01:54:19 AM »
It's funny how quick the knee-jerk is when somebody writes in that manner. When you violate the collective sacred cow, and fail to kowtow to a superfluous group standard, people all do a turn to the same omega-point and having found the strength, collectively, to oppose the individual who dares to raise their voice, throttle them.

Anybody with an ounce of self-respect would immediately notice how noxious this is. But the principle of 'vocal minorities' also comes into play. Sad.

And Crow, good of you to plead foolishness, for it makes them foolish by their own standard. Edifying

Maybe I'll start writing to fill the box. If I make 3 word posts, I'll just space out the letters to conform to the rectangle. And watch as hipsters catch on, and call this "meta-posting".

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