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Interzone / Re: Romanticism: opposed to science?
« on: August 15, 2009, 07:46:25 AM »
It sounds to me like your argument is that humans, with knowledge, are no better than lions, because lions are happy and fulfilled.

How fulfilling do you think it is to see your family die from eg. leptospirosis?

This is seriously like arguing with college freshmen, philosophy 101 kids.  It's like arguments I used to hear from 18 year old self defense students about how aikido is better than kali.   These positions I'm seeing here are so cut off from the real world as to be ludicrous.  To produce baroque masterpieces of argumentation within that fantasy space is apparently what you want.  And I suppose that's as valid as any other pursuit on the net.

And probably my injection of objective reality into the abstract symbol processing festival isn't what you want.

I just don't have time for the bullshit.

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Interzone / Re: The Other Side of Commercialization
« on: August 15, 2009, 07:20:44 AM »
Another question: What would the world have become if metal (True metal) had become gigantically popular, to the point where, say, 20 of the Top 40 were consistently bands like Emperor and Immortal?

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Metal / Re: Future of metal: change of obsolescence
« on: August 15, 2009, 07:04:39 AM »
The problem with faster is that there's a point of diminishing returns.  Look at "technical" death metal.  It's more complex than anything else, arguably more so than any other style of music.  It is that way because for them, complexity was job 1.  At some point, faster doesn't do the job anymore.

I think part of the problem is that satanism became passe.  Gore is also passe (was passe in 1987).

So what are they supposed to talk about lyrically?  I rather think Proscriptor has the right idea.  Smart guy that.

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Interzone / Re: Write a metal review for ANUS?
« on: August 15, 2009, 12:01:56 AM »
No Future.

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Interzone / Re: Romanticism: opposed to science?
« on: August 14, 2009, 11:36:58 PM »
Put your money where your mouth is and do so for a month.  No clothes, food or shelter.  Then get back to me and tell me again how we're no better than animals.  I will laugh at your dirty, emaciated form covered with parasites and weeping sores.

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Interzone / Re: Write a metal review for ANUS?
« on: August 14, 2009, 12:19:16 PM »
Not so much, I own my house and I'm pretty much set for the forseeable future.  A van would be nice though.

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Interzone / Re: Romanticism: opposed to science?
« on: August 14, 2009, 12:07:01 PM »
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Yes we are so high above those shit sleeping lions, aren't we?

You tell me.  Do you like antibiotics?  If not, don't take them.

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Interzone / Re: Religion?
« on: August 14, 2009, 11:59:21 AM »
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Reality as we can perceive and sense it is created in our minds: all sounds, smells, feelings, tastes, and sights. But outside of our minds and consciousness is a void place of nothingness.

A void place of nothingness where you're lied to all the time.

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Interzone / Re: Write a metal review for ANUS?
« on: August 14, 2009, 11:32:15 AM »
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Are you serious? Does everyone who read some nihilism assume they are part of an elite?

What I don't understand is why people read nihilism and then think that anything matters, that there is any sort of greater cause or purpose: social order, eugenics, totalitarianism.

The older I get and the more I learn about the world, the more I think that the only thing that matters is getting stoned down by the river.  And maybe chicks.

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Interzone / Re: The internet is (literally) crack
« on: August 14, 2009, 05:48:10 AM »
Except that those who are educated have demonstrably higher levels of capability than those who are not.

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Interzone / Re: The internet is (literally) crack
« on: August 14, 2009, 01:47:49 AM »
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a crackhead zombie rape room.

Does that site have some free galleries I can check out?

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Interzone / Re: Religion?
« on: August 13, 2009, 11:56:49 PM »
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your science is another aethiest trick to damage one's faith and drag them down to the pits of Hell.

Down!  To the fiery pits of hell!

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the argument "The Universe is big = God doesn't exist" is a joke

I suggest a crash course in logical positivism, empirical logic and the burden of proof.

Weak theists make me want to vomit.  At least people who call dinosaurs "jesus horses" have the strength of their rural certitude.

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Interzone / Re: The Other Side of Commercialization
« on: August 13, 2009, 09:53:20 PM »
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Are the hipsters responsive to the ideas of metal or are they using metal to add another piece of flair to their personalities for social reasons? To respond to those ideas, they have to first understand them. I liked the "idea processing machines" metaphor, but tell me something: if the machine cannot process the idea, how does it benefit from it?

You're concerned about whether hipsters benefit from something?

They're meme-spreading engines. 

The ideas and principles in metal are powerful enough that they're not going to be able to be watered down beyond a certain common denominator.  A lot of people apparently think they're like fragile orchids.  Not so.

Personally, it doesn't matter to me whether anyone "benefits" from it at all.  It's just that there's a slow, steady ingression of metalculture into popular culture.  It's been going on since the 1970s.

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Interzone / Musical Masochism
« on: August 13, 2009, 01:17:18 PM »
I often intentionally listen to music that I don't like.

It can't be stuff that's really horrible.  There is just some torture that I can't endure. 

But I'm getting more and more into these irredeemably awful NWOBHM bands.  Tygers of Pan Tang.  Tokyo Blade.  Raven.



Someone kill me.  But does anyone else do this?

I also eat food combinations that other people grimace at.  I do it because of the blast of physical sensation.  For some reason the unpleasantness of these bands-- out of tune falsetto singing, triplet ostinato tapping, lyrics about beer and bitches-- chisels through my jaded ear canals in a way that at least wakes me up.  You have to notice this stuff.  It's not something you can leave on in the background and forget about.



Crusty?  This shit was crusty when it came out.  I remember in the 80s there were large bins in most semi-hip record stores that were devoted to this stuff.  But you had this sense that it was already dead and buried.  I didn't listen to it.  I didn't know anyone who listened to it.  But still it was out there and it had enough of a following for stores to devote fairly large amounts of floor space to it.  Probably there were legions of jean-jacketed mullet dudes in seedy parts of seedy industrial towns who blew their whole pay checks every week on that and weed.

I wonder where they are now.  I wonder what they listen to now.  My guess is they're still in the same seedy towns, still listening to their seedy old vinyls of Riot and Savage Steel.  My next door neighbor is about 45.  He has a mullet and a big house.  On summer weekends he smokes mexican mids and sits in his pool cranking Ozzy, Boston and Def Leppard.



What made the bands think that it was a going concern?  I think they must have just enjoyed doing it.



The style stayed around long after it had become self-referential, almost self-flagellating.  A lot of these bands are still at it, working the club scene in Manchester and Liverpool.

Somehow, I get the feeling they will always be there.

This second-echelon NWOBHM is one of the most awful musical styles ever that wasn't completely ersatz.  You had the feeling that the guys were honest-- they were all mullets and weed and Union Jack wifebeaters.  They at least played instruments.

But played them well?  Not so much.

I do so wish Earl Root (The Root of All Evil) was still around.  Earl understood.

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Interzone / Religion?
« on: August 13, 2009, 12:29:19 PM »



One hundred billion galaxies and that's just in our Hubble volume.

You're an infinitesimal insect on an infinitesimal speck of dirt in an infinitesimal, insignificant galaxy.

You're a collection of bacteria.

Nobody cares a fuck about you.

Your woo-woo "spirituality" doesn't mean dickshit.

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