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Metal / Re: Cianide - Gods of Death
« on: August 06, 2011, 11:45:15 AM »
This just got released.

Cianide's best is probably A Descent Into Hell but none of the first four is bad.

Hell's Rebirth is their weakest.

This new one is somewhere in the middle, and is probably album of the year 2011 so far.

Go download and then see what you think. (I hate sales talk. The album speaks for itself, as does any album we praise on the DLA; it may however require multiple listens. If you're ADHD, we sedate you.)

If you then choose to buy it, buy from the label:


Interzone / Re: Reasons to tolerate stupidity
« on: June 26, 2011, 11:30:42 AM »
I'd like to propose a radical (or not) solution: speak up against the stupidity, stand up against it and refuse to tolerate it.

We are in agreement, but I have two corollaries/exceptions:

(a) Sometimes "stupidity" is useful. Newer members need to make mistakes and learn from them (by not getting positive feedback or attention) and there needs to be some room for screwing around, like there is in the blog comments. Too much of a managed situation is the bad side of fascism.

(b) I'll support calling out bad arguments and in rare cases, pointing out where someone has done nothing but spam/antagonize/post stupidity. However, I'm not a big fan of us forming any kind of witch hunts. Sometimes people start off posting dumbass stuff and turn out OK as they learn the rules of the road.

I will always be in favor of two types of forum:

(a) The anarchy zone. No rules, no divisions, let it rip and if the userbase is there, it will select out the more popular stuff (recent replies move to the top). http://bbs.anus.com/ was this way

(b) The civil space. Rules and divisions, and dumb stuff gets deleted. These are never as popular and require some kind of very active admin, which we don't have.

I guess time will tell.

Interzone / Re: Krokodil, better than jenkem (slowly we rot)
« on: June 25, 2011, 07:08:57 AM »
"Mr. President, we have a necrotizing narcotic GAP!!!!"

Cocaine cut with the veterinary drug levamisole could be the culprit in a flurry of flesh-eating disease in New York and Los Angeles.

The drug, used to deworm cattle, pigs and sheep, can rot the skin off noses, ears and cheeks. And over 80 percent of the country's coke supply contains it.


Metal / Cianide - Gods of Death
« on: June 24, 2011, 05:34:29 PM »

SUMMARY: Much better than the last one. Also more varied. They're growing a bit more musical, albeit in some conventional ways. However, they are more focused.

Interzone / Re: Fix this forum
« on: June 24, 2011, 05:31:36 PM »
In the interest of resolution:

Let's close this discussion on July 15.

There's plenty of time for every/any/all members of this forum to speak their mind before then.

I retract all my comments; please tell me what you think.

« on: June 22, 2011, 12:03:49 PM »

Interzone / Re: National Lowered Standards Day (August 4)
« on: June 21, 2011, 08:55:44 PM »
I'm going to celebrate by listening to:

* Metallica - Metallica
* Asphyx - God Cries
* Slayer - God Hates Us All
* Morbid Angel - Ilud Divanum Insanus
* Emperor - Anthems to the Welkin at Dusk
* Burzum - Valen
* Immortal - All Shall Fail
* Enslaved - Dark Side of the Moon
* Judas Priest - Turbo

And other mediocre albums by once great bands. They're equal too, you know.

Metal / ARKTOS media releasing traditionalist literature
« on: June 20, 2011, 11:07:19 PM »
The Arctic Home in the Vedas, by Bal Gangadhar Tilak

The idea of a lost ancient civilization located at the North Pole at a time when its climate was friendlier to human habitation is suggested in many of the world's oldest myths and sacred scriptures. Drawing upon his vast knowledge of the Hindu Vedas and the Zoroastrian Avesta, Tilak makes a painstakingly detailed analysis of the texts and compares them with the geological, astronomical and archaeological evidence to show the plausibility of the Arctic having been the primordial cradle of the Aryan race before changing conditions forced the Aryans southward into present-day Europe, Iran and India. Although this theory has never gained widespread acceptance among mainstream scholars since it was first published in 1903, Tilak has made a compelling case which is not easily refuted.

Bal Gangadhar Tilak (1856-1920), who was given the honorary title Lokmanya ("chosen leader of the people"), was one of the fathers of India's independence movement in opposition to British colonial rule. He was imprisoned several times for his vocal advocacy of violent revolt against the colonial authorities on the basis of Vedic scripture. His time in prison gave him time to work on his more scholarly projects, such as the present book. Although he did not live to see the ultimate victory of the movement he had helped to establish, he is widely acknowledged as having been one of the main driving forces behind it due to his influence on Gandhi and the other leaders who saw his mission through to its end in 1947.

342 pages

De Naturae Natura, by Alexander Jacob
This study of European natural philosophy begins with the classical conceptions of Mind, Soul, Nature and the Unconscious and analyses the revival of these notions in the natural philosophy of the Renaissance and the Seventeenth century. The concept of the Unconscious acquired a major importance in the systems of the German vitalist biologists and the Idealistic philosophers of the Nineteenth century. Jacob shows how these various thinkers, as well as the German Romantic philosophers, and especially Schubert, Carus, Schopenhauer, and Hartmann, not only revived the ancient doctrines of the Soul in their metaphysical schemes but also anticipated the psychological theories of Jung, who, as a psychologist and philosopher, serves as the culminating point of the work. In the Appendix, the author points to the natural philosophical bases of the discussions of racial differences that emerged in the Nineteenth century alongside the investigations into the spiritual capacities of mankind.

Alexander Jacob obtained his Ph.D. in the History of Ideas from Pennsylvania State University and is the author ofNobilitas: A Study of Aristocratic Philosophy from Ancient Greece to the Early Twentieth Century, and Atman: A Reconstruction of the Solar Cosmology of the Indo-Europeans. His major editions of German conservative political thinkers include Edgar Julius Jung's The Rule of the Inferiour, the anthology Europa: German Conservative Foreign Policy 1870-1940, and Houston Stewart Chamberlain's Political Ideals

188 pages

Metaphysics of War, by Julius Evola

These essays, originally written by Evola during the 1930s and '40s, deal with war from a spiritual and heroic perspective. Evola selects specific examples from the Nordic, Vedic, Roman, Persian, Islamic and other traditions to demonstrate how traditionalists can prepare themselves to experience war in a way that will allow them to overcome the limited possibilities offered by our materialistic and degraded age, thereby transcending the Age of Kali and entering the world of heroism by achieving a higher state of consciousness, which Evola depicts as an effective realisation of the ultimate purpose of life. His call to action, however, is not that of today's armies, which ask nothing more of their soldiers than to become mercenaries in the temporary employ of a decadent class. Still less is it a call to misdirected or nihilistic violence. Rather, Evola presents the warrior as one who lives an integrated and purposeful way of life - one who adopts a specifically Aryan view of the world in which the political aims of a war are not its ultimate justification, but rather war is seen as merely a means through which the warrior finds his calling to a higher and more complete form of existence beyond the political, and in accordance with the teachings of the great spiritual texts. More importantly, he shows how the ideal of the warrior extends beyond the battlefield into other aspects of traditional living, even in times of peace.

Julius Evola (1898-1974) was an Italian traditionalist, metaphysician and political philosopher. He remains a leading authority on the world's esoteric traditions and one of the greatest critics of modernity. He wrote extensively on the ancient civilisations and beliefs of both East and West and the world of Tradition. His principal works includeRevolt Against the Modern World, The Path of Cinnabar (also published by Arktos), The Hermetic Tradition andThe Yoga of Power.

150 pages


Interzone / Language, like death metal, is easily faked
« on: June 18, 2011, 04:05:29 PM »
Form over substance.

Form can be coherent, even if it means nothing. It has no substrate, antecedent or referent. It just is, like dogma.



Use these to spam helpful bullshit across the universe :)

Interzone / Why to not be a wimp
« on: June 18, 2011, 03:17:20 PM »
Time spent sitting down and eating dinners is also time not spent in the gym.  While betas wine and dine, waiting for the inevitable “let’s just be friends” ax to fall, they are not able to cultivate one of their most valuable assets – their respective bodies.  Pop quiz: If you want to attract the best women you can, is your time better spent enhancing your physical appearance, or spending 3 hours listening to one girl talk about which of her friends she doesn’t actually like?

Worst, though, is the self-deprivation of the beta.  Being beta means constant self-censorship and suppression of one’s true thoughts and urges – either consciously or due to social conditioning.  Saying “that sucks” becomes “I’m sorry.”  Monologues about her pet(s) inexcusably elicit any configuration of language other than “nobody could ever possibly care about this.”  Instead of doing what you want, from seeing a concert to playing Nintendo, you cater to what she wants to do, when she wants to do it.

I wouldn’t take issue with any of this if it worked, but it doesn’t.  The reward for self-denial and sacrifice is rejection.  Loneliness.  Nothing.

There is no good reason to be a beta.  Aside from being a losing position in the dating market, it adversely affects every other important element of the beta’s life.  It may not be easy to stop being a beta.  It’s not easy to run a mile in under 6 minutes, or to bench press 250 pounds, or to write comprehensibly, either.  Nobody disputes that these are worthwhile endeavors that pay valuable rewards with persistence.  Ending beta servitude is at least as worthwhile, and provides meaningful gains – financially, physically and spiritually – immediately.


By wimp we mean a moral/character/warlike-presence wimp, not necessarily some guy who isn't UFC caliber MMA and loves to fight when drunk.

This society loves to rub its balls in your face and make you a nobody. It then empowers the nobodies over you, and drives you into the dirt, because it fears the strong-willed.

Fight back.

Interzone / Before the web forums of today
« on: June 17, 2011, 02:08:48 PM »
Within the bowels of Google Groups are massive archives of Usenet posts from the early '90s. One of these archives is of the old Usenet group alt.rock-n-roll.metal.death, the first (to my knowledge) place for death metal fans from across the world to talk about their favorite genre online. The oldest posts (from the inception of the group) come from November 1993 and extend forward from there. As you can probably guess, getting to read in-depth discussion of death metal from an era right at one of the peaks of extreme metal is utterly fascinating. 1994, where a bulk of the posts originate, was a seminal year for black and death metal- and soon afterwards, one of the darkest times for extreme metal as a whole. This archive of posts is an invaluable look at the culture of extreme metal from the early-mid '90s, and it's amazing to see just how much things change as well as how much they stay the same.

There's a lot of really interesting aspects to these early posts. For one, how even in 1994, the idea of 'death metal' was all but consolidated and established in the minds of metalheads. The idea was imprecise and fuzzy even then, after many of death metal's most formative works had been firmly established as canon- Slayer is tossed out as a sort-of death metal band while arguments over where Carcass fell at any point in their career are a regular debate. Even more fascinating (and somewhat funny) is just how many people considered death metal to be a transitory fad. Many of the posts on the BBS state that death metal had already been pushed as extreme as it could go and was ultimately an artistic dead end, with some suggesting that oldschool thrash and speed metal (two distinct ideas) would soon make for a resurgence. Response to albums like 'Heartwork' is perplexing- they associate it heavily with bands like Iron Maiden, which seems odd, but remember that the idea of melodeath didn't even exist yet.

So what are big talking points in 1994? Cynic is one of the most prominent, with opinions of 'Focus' just as divided as they are now. Oddly enough, the usage of terms like 'technical' or 'progressive death metal' were firmly established, and bands like the aforementioned Cynic, Atheist, and Pestilence are heavily lauded on the BBS for their creativity and forward-thinking music. Others look towards grindcore, with Napalm Death always on the tips of tongues as well as Anal Cunt, Meat Shits, and Extreme Noise Terror. Deicide is a hot topic, with some referring to a strange, never-explained incident where the band was beaten up by their fans(?). Entombed was the preeminent Swedeath band, but Dismember and Grave rarely come up.

Perhaps the most surprising thing, though, are the elements which haven't changed. Intelligent, refined discussion on the nature of subgenres and style are common, and far more civil and even-handed than you're likely to find on modern metal forums. Discussions about death metal in the greater context of heavy metal and where the genre might go in the future- if it would have a future at all- were an essential part of the scene, just like they are now. And, of course, the overwhelming passion for the style, the discovery of new artists, and trips to the record shop were just as essential in '94 as they are today- though the album covers might have changed, it's truly amazing just how little has changed on the way through the years. Check it out; it's a truly amazing tribute to the years many of us missed out on.


And of course

It will be impossible for me to assess the importance of the Metal AE, as it crossed so many boundaries. One of the first sites for intelligent metalheads to meet, it was also the first lyrics and tab archive for this unique genre. Where most metal information is corporate pablum, it was one of the few voices with a zeal for heavy music. No ads, no morality, no religion, and no rules - it was flaming lawlessness on the digital frontier. If you were able to cobble together a primitive computer and modem setup, and maybe phreak a couple k0dez for the call, you could find relatively recent Apple ][ warez, textfiles and a rudimentary message system consisting of uploaded text files with "from" and "to" information in their filenames.

There was nothing more exciting than dialing this system "back in the day" and getting on, because it was often busy, then poking around to see what had been uploaded. Sometimes the strangest thrill could be had from logging to another 143k disk drive than the default, knowing that on the lesser-visited reaches of this board often the most interesting stuff appeared. War dialers, tiny term programs, hacking utilities and operating system patches. Rare interviews with Metallica and Slayer, back then "the heaviest shit" anyone had ever heard of. The Metal AE was a great place for all of these.


Interzone / Re: Progressive Rock
« on: June 17, 2011, 10:11:52 AM »
With all respect I assume you have not devoted much time or love to any of the above bands if you think they are 'conventional' (not that simply being unconventional = good music).

My point was that "progressive" is a more specific definition than "unconventional." Those bands are not really even all that unconventional. If anything, very Beatles-derived.

This forum. I just said that.

Please point out where this consensus exists, e.g. what evidence do you see of it existing?

In fact, this forum is the only place online where you can find a supporting consensus for this troll band.


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