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Metal / Re: Why is everyone excited about Averse Serira?
« on: October 25, 2006, 01:51:46 PM »
Look at the interview with them.

They aren't idiots, like 95% of black metal.

Metal / Re: Metal to write stories to
« on: October 23, 2006, 12:04:56 PM »
I'm still looking for any more suggestions, this has just turned into an "insult the OP" thread.

No wonder your movement is failing if you all have the social skills of an undertaker who takes his job too seriously.

Magnificient. Don't insult me, followed by an insult.

The differences between CoF and Burzum are obvious. I've wasted enough time here, and if you can't see the line between entertainment and art then you weren't meant to.

Metal / Re: Metal to write stories to
« on: October 23, 2006, 10:15:34 AM »
No doubt ChristianHolocaust's term 'candy black metal' included not only heavy metal with BM vocals like CoF, but also the bands that obsess over the 'True' scene and don't innovate.

CoF or Dimmu don't say anything that hasn't been said before. Their musical structuring lacks true artistic genius and plays around basic formations that don't even compare to Hvis Lyset Tar Oss. You fail also to see that lyrics are secondary in the overall musical scheme. Just because there easy to decipher doesn't make them the primary vehicle of meaning within music.

Look here and stop preaching individualism.

Metal / Re: Did metal hit its teenage years?
« on: October 21, 2006, 06:37:45 PM »

I see what you mean, but really I have no problem with satan metaphors. I was referring to the non-romantist metal bands who make juvenile, unvaried, unoriginal pessimist thrash. I think all great art is comprised of contrasts.

True, there needs to be philosphy behind music.. I was just wondering why all metal had to follow the same philosphy.

Well I don't think we really need to worry about the crap metal. When I think of metal, I look to the greats and don't worry about the 'juvenile, unoriginal' stuff. I believe black metal was the latest manifestation of the romanticist spirit (being generally essential for a sane world view), however it decayed. All other genres before have been swamped by this disease, and we should attempt to manifest something from the ashes of the previous great black metal.

Regarding philosophy, what characterises a genre is a set of general ideas and aesthetics which can be overall attributed to a set group of artists. We all live in the same objective world, and sane people usually derive a general worldview that is in many ways similar to others. They didn't have to follow a specific philosophy, they all gathered together and were able to agree on these specific ideas as important, and expressed them in art.

Metal / Re: Did metal hit its teenage years?
« on: October 21, 2006, 05:46:20 PM »
Does metal really need to be specifically political or philosophical? All other genres of music have greater freedom of choice in their... orientation.
My opinion on the subject is that metal needs to lighten up (if just a little). There is beauty out there. Maybe we need more reminders of it?

I think metal is losing its warrior spirit and becoming a suicidal teenager, yes.

True metal (excuse the cliché) has always been philosophical, when one calls interpreting and analysing reality as philosophy. There is no real point in music that doesn't attempt to find meaning within the world, for that is where true art arises. Most music is just entertainment, which should never be the aim.

When you talk of metal 'lightening up', I think you miss the entire point of the evil/satan metaphor. When we break free of our previous moral existence through nihilism, we are able to see the greatness and beauty in the darkness, and realise all as essential. People have for centuries under Judeo-Christianity and individualism, seen the world in terms of good and evil, while hessians saw good and evil as one in the same. However, as with most of the world, it was overrun by the undermen not being able to see this. They wanted an 'individual identity', 'fun', or noise to party and get wasted to.

Each metal genre has been overrun by those that take away the meaning and replace it with entertainment and fun. These followers must be banished from the realms of whatever artistic movement next arises.

Metal / Apple supports AIDS effort
« on: October 13, 2006, 06:14:58 PM »
Cupertino (CA) - Apple today expanded its Ipod Nano line with a bright red model, which contributes a portion of its revenues to RED, an organization founded by U2 lead singer Bono and Bobby Shriver dedicated to battle AIDS in Africa.

"We're ecstatic that Apple is giving their customers the choice to buy a red iPod nano and help women and children affected by HIV/AIDS in Africa," said Bono, co-founder of RED, in a prepared statement. "It's wonderful to see this incredible level of commitment from companies that are willing to lend their creativity in the fight against AIDS in Africa, the greatest health crisis in 600 years."


Most of modern society holds this humanist outlook, 'we must save the world (humans) from evils that threaten it.' They aren't able to look at the world in any terms apart from this dualistic system of 'good' and 'evil'.

Audiofile / Endura
« on: October 09, 2006, 11:29:17 PM »

Metal / Graveland Album - Will Stronger Than Death
« on: October 01, 2006, 12:54:00 AM »

Will Stronger Than Death

New full album of Graveland soon !

Fragments of songs for a new LP 2006

- Song4 for new album - 3'24/3.27 MB - Download  - (date: 04 01 06)