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Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 10, 2012, 10:23:03 PM »
The master race, hides behind their status as a "minority".

There is a lot of truth to this. Jews use their status as victims, minorities, and God's chosen people for gain. More of them, like Norman Finkelstein, should speak out against this manipulative and cowardly behavior. However, people like him get banned from Israel. It's funny how that works.

Does this make Jews evil? No. It's just that certain Jews are doing despicable things, just as certain Whites are doing despicable things. Both ethnic groups need to clean up their mess and tear down the false idols and corrupt leadership. As for Jews being some kind of "master race", please... they have their own issues. They are not special.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 10, 2012, 10:13:28 PM »

I think he has good ideas. One on one conversation is the best way you can change minds. In the last few weeks I have "converted" numerous people into being aware of the Zionist plot as it relates to cultural decay. Ron Paul websites are where it's at nillas.

I like his ideas too, but I think we can take a slightly different direction, as I typed up.

Ron Paul websites are probably a good place to start. He unified a lot of people who have different ideologies. I often find competent individuals share a lot of common political beliefs, but semantics and ego get in the way of progress.

Interzone / Anti-Semitism
« on: April 10, 2012, 10:01:49 PM »
Articles like this are not uncommon. I don't know much about the Zionist Agenda or the Jewish Question, and frankly, I don't care. All I know is that I shouldn't embrace a group of people when many of its members are supporting an ideology that is dangerous to me, my nation, and my ethnic homeland (Northern Europe). Jews in the US are often liberal, or at least, the outspoken ones are. If the others are not speaking out loudly, then they are still at fault. Let's not act like all Jews are our friends. Some are, and some aren't. An enemy is an enemy.

Absolutely disgusting

Many people on this board talk about the Jews as if they are some simple, linear group. They are like Whites, in that some need to be shot, some need to be convinced, and some are crucial to progress. No need to bash or support them as a whole.

As per my personal experiences with Jews, I have found nearly all of them to be staunch supporters of liberalism. In comparison, I have met several Whites and Asians in real life circumstances who support my views. Everyday Blacks and Jews are just harder to convince.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 10, 2012, 04:08:03 PM »
You plan on convincing so many people with blogging, handing out fliers, speaking at colleges, posting on Youtube, and selling merchandise?

Your post is good, but I see a major problem: The people are convinced, by their families and the media, that they are already on the path of enlightenment. They are like this before they approach your mediums. As a result, they will decry anything you write or say. You can only convince a minute percentage.

If you going to take that approach, you are better off setting up a network all over the US. Then, get your candidates into office by using subterfuge (pose as a Christian Democrat or Republican). Afterwards, come out of the closet, then ram bills down people's throats. And if anyone complains and threatens to remove you, restoring the old order, simply pump bullets into all the useless shits already in office and take it over. Let's see the Federal Government recover after one of its branches is compromised. The system is only used to having weak, soulless politicians in office, not Hessian warriors.

However, you cannot convince the masses with such tactics. Additionally, you cannot secede, because the Fed won't allow it. Someone is trying in California, and others tried beforehand, but the Fed, along with the media blackmail, stomps on such actions, whether legal or not. I mean, all they have to do is hold off the secession until the people lose interest...

I am afraid being nice about this whole thing is out of the question. I am not asking you to shoot some proles (though I would find that entertaining), but things like subterfuge are necessary. We live in a dark time where the insane think they are sane. Being an honorable, intelligent idealist will get you killed (figuratively).


Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 10, 2012, 07:47:33 AM »
It is a fiction. It is nothing like what ANUS.com was about when I discovered this place.

Here is your explanation:

Quote from: prozak
I think our political activism needs to shift toward something acceptable to mainstream white people, and appeal less to marginalized folks (many of whom will become non-marginalized when change occurs).
source: http://www.vnnforum.com/showpost.php?p=280329&postcount=26

That would explain statements like this: http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,15786.msg73986.html#msg73986

I don't follow American politics particularly closely, but my favorite candidate was the black guy.  He seems to have disappeared since those sexual harassment allegations though.

Cain was a decent option, probably like a more aggressive Romney.

This is strange, because early ANUS articles denounced both parties.

Also, I have a video for you Herman Cain fans: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFa6bz9jpEo

He can't even answer a question without freaking out. Additionally, he has the same message as the other Neo-cons, except for that ridiculous 9-9-9 plan of his. I can understand compromising, but supporting a full-blown, Fox News-supported, Neo-con whose inception was brought on by the need to counter the Democrat's superior sense of diversity lacks any sense whatsoever, in that nearly all of our values have been compromised by doing so. The Republican party supports diversity, feminism, war-mongering, and it is anti-European to boot. Watch more Fox News, guys.

The ANUS-sphere has a lot of good people, and I don't want to see them poison themselves by simply confusing compromise with ideological suicide. Such a thing would be tragically ironic and petty, similarly to how Ted Kaczynski was caught because his loving brother, David Kaczynski, who barely recognized his writing style while the big bad FBI couldn't touch him.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 10, 2012, 06:16:39 AM »

You discount everything ANUS has done.

No, I don't. I only came here to ask a question, and nearly everyone decided to get defensive instead of discussing rationally. This includes you, with your immature usage of exclamation marks and strawman arguments.

Ron Paul's agenda is retarded insane. USA stepping down as a superpower is an invitation for the Russians to invade and destroy Europe, and China to occupy all of Asia and Africa.

That is why Ron Paul is not getting elected.

There is a media "conspiracy" which is more tacit than anything else, but Ron Paul has not united the Republican base.

They fear his irresponsible, unrealistic and disaster-prone foreign policy.

Back up the claim that the Russians want to destroy Europe. Again, back up the claim regarding China. I only see two nations trying to improve themselves. If you know of information I do not, please share. I am all ears.

Although he is too isolationist for my tastes, I agree with him on Israel.  Just leave them alone. The Jews are smart, so they can figure things out themselves. Jews usually do not support European/White interests anyway. Ideologically, them being our best friend does not help us at all. The tax money we throw at them could be better used for Americans. It's the same with a lot of foreign aid. Additionally, he's right about us bringing 9/11 upon ourselves, and we certainly have not learned our lesson. Supporting the the desecration of Libya was a disgusting act, and we should be ashamed. The "Republican base" supports such things.

This is so typical human, scream at each other for not doing something, what is the right thing to do? No one agrees, that 's why no one is doing anything. There is no walk, there is only talk, because there is no walk to walk.

Good theory, but I disagree. If one of us were to act out, the rest would disagree. We don't agree when we talk, so we won't agree when we walk. Hell, I made this topic to understand, and I am still not getting answers.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 02:09:14 PM »

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 12:35:43 PM »
What is not generally understood, is that to create a good society, it is first necessary to create a good self.
To save the planet, first one must save oneself.
To help someone, one must first be able to help oneself.

It looks like our worldview is pretty much established. Bettering the self happens all throughout a lifetime. If we were to follow your advice, we would be six feet under without having brought our dreams into fruition.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 12:30:23 PM »
The current order will destroy itself from within whether we employ our individual or combined influences in either case, so we should focus on creating order within our selves and then applying that as best we can to the world at large in a local setting. It's a generalized view, but it is honest, noble and recognizes our personal insignificance so as to not allow us to become embittered from powerlessness (which leads to self-destruction).

I liked your whole post for the most part, but this part was especially shrewd.

Most people waste their own time and have nothing to show for their lives. They fail at life and also fail at "Walk." That's not unique to this place. No one really knows what to do about how fucked up our world has become. I think people should just volunteer with a good organization, raise a good family, have a good career, recycle...

Exactly. Either do something about it, admit critiquing society was for personal satisfaction/amusement, or shut up and live a good life.

Did Anders do nothing but make people even more suspicious of the right through his stupidity? You bet.

Oh right, because people look at conservative websites like ANUS and Amerika.org as good alternatives to our current political orientation. They totally want their right to vote stripped from them, less women in the work force, eugenics applied, and flat tax rates...

You weren't convincing "people" (by this, I assume you mean the typical Westerner) then, and you are not now. Any organization centering around nationalism, if applied to Whites (whether or not it is also applied to other ethnic groups too, as is in the case of pan-nationalism), is automatically demonized and publicly defamed the minute any sizable portion of the population catches wind of it. There is too much white guilt running amok for true conservatism to be considered by even 10% of the population. As is in the US's case, unless a bunch of rightist leaders simultaneously use subterfuge to hijack Congress, you have to convince 50% > of the voting population.

I wouldn't take the route Breivik took, but let's all get something straight: He did what he did, partly because he was alone. The Western population is so bent out of shape psychologically, that they are destroying their own cultures, all the while absorbing everything the media plays through passive osmosis. People like us are alone. We can create little groups both offline and online, but then we would labelled "fanatics". So long as we keep to ourselves and take the demonization up the ass, "people" do not have a problem with us.

Perhaps, Norway created Breivik. Surely, one cannot expect to slowly dismantle a nation's identity and not expect a few people to get mad. If a few people are enraged, one of them is bound to strike.

I'm not so much praising Breivik as I am using him to make a point: Very few people act, even among those who are "awake". Bloviation, however, is not rare, nor is it useful for bringing theory into the realm of reality.

Now, if most of you are chatting about our failing modern world for your own amusement, then I am fine with that. I would just like to see more admit it.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 11:10:00 AM »

... people who have devised your own plans to subtly alter the course of this civilisation, and that's probably fine.

Spectrum, most of the regular users of this forum are doing things

2) Raising a healthy family

2) Growing a garden

2) Becoming a community leader

I don't see it.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 09:15:07 AM »

Everything you've said leads me to believe that you think emotionally and not logically. You're mad the west is killing itself, mad that you and your ideas are marginalized, and mad that you have no power to stop it. So the only thing you can come up with is: hay lets pump a few rounds into some random assholes and hope for the best. Sounds fun, but lets not pretend its anything other than what it is.

So what is your plan to fix things? If you are not going to do so, then why do you discuss these sorts of things on an online forum and read someone else critiquing society in the first place? Do you just do it for your own amusement? Do you need a social circle?

You're mad

If you recall, NHA decided to resort to ad hominems. I came here to pose a serious question.  No need to point out something I never did. I'm not mad; I'm merely trying to understand. I'm not sure if you are projecting your own emotions with those exclamation marks or not, but it really does not contribute anything to this discussion.

Can you read it now? I put it in special, large font just for you.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 08:24:42 AM »
The Utřya Youth Camp had campers ranging from the ages of 14 to 25 (how many ANUS members are that age?). At least get your facts straight, guys.

Many of those "kids" already made up their minds. If you would like to claim otherwise, then you could say the same about many ANUS members/visitors.

Killing traitor children for a pro-zionist agenda, very productive

You guys support Zionism, remember? Amerika.org, Brett Stevens, and several other members voice support for Israel, Zionism, etc. at the expense of peace with China, Russia, and Iran. If you are against Zionism, you need to find another club like Iron March.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 09, 2012, 08:13:14 AM »

We have heard this so many times.

For good reason. Other than the topics I started regarding this subject in the past, I, and your earlier criticizers, see very little discussion concerning real life strategies. Should we just assume you do more without any evidence thereof? Of course not. We can only see what is happening before us, and I see a lot of metaphysics babble while the world is turning shit all around us. You like to mention how old ANUS is. How many more "decades" is it going to take before ANUS members begin walking the talk?

Breivik started with three years of internet research and activism, which is why one of the Amerika.org articles ended up in his manifesto.

The point is not online/offline, which is a bullshit dichotomy.

It is a bullshit dichotomy, which is why I agreed, in my initial post, that the online portion and understanding our time is important. I don't know why you bring this up when I never implied or said we should act without a plan.

(You are literally two decades too late; that's how long the "you have to go offline!!!1!" and "ANUS is sucks!!!1!" pidgin has been floating around.)

If you recall, NHA decided to resort to ad hominems. I came here to pose a serious question.  No need to point out something I never did. I'm not mad; I'm merely trying to understand. I'm not sure if you are projecting your own emotions with those exclamation marks or not, but it really does not contribute anything to this discussion.

We might also mention that there are types of activism other than the type Breivik picked...

For example, go join your local Republican party and start pushing everything you touch closer toward a higher idea.

If even one Republican organizer made it on the news wearing a Summoning or Graveland t-shirt, or talking about Tolkien and medievalism, or mentioning Guenon and Nietzsche, stuff would start heating up.

Right now, that's an impossibility.

I agree with the underlined portion, but not the rest. Ron Paul (who is not ideal, I know, but he is miles ahead of the rest) tried this, and he was and has been blotted out by the media for disagreeing with the Republican's war-mongering, all-consuming globalist agenda. Presidency is not the only option, I know, and it is actually less practical. However, even if you became a lower-tier politician, you wouldn't get face time. The media determines who gets their word out and who doesn't when joining one of those two parties. Others, before Ron Paul ran for President, infiltrated the Republicans (a couple of anarcho-capitalists, for instance), and they are not the ones allowed face time.

What good is having one guy who rarely gets in his word when ten other guys with long-standing media support can shout over him? The people do not listen to what is right, they listen to what they are told the most. They listen to constants.

How in anyway is killing 100 people moving towards a greater good?

1) Less multiculturalist traitors.
2) Less worthless people.
3) Less people on an overpopulated Earth in general.

You guys can laugh at me and say I'll shoot up my workplace, but the fact is that if more multiculturalist, guilt-ridden traitors were shot to death, our Western nations would be cleaner. Breivik had a right to be mad. He was witnessing his own heritage being torn apart by his countrymen. Who wouldn't be mad about that? Disagreeing with his tactics is fine, but at least back it up with some action of your own. Typing away at your keyboard about how you are morally superior to the herd and opposition to the herd is just silly and unbelievable when you have no apparent plan to actually fix the West yourself.

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 08, 2012, 10:58:21 PM »
I'm pretty sure that what I'm doing

What are you doing to change things?

Interzone / Re: Walk > Talk
« on: April 08, 2012, 10:57:18 PM »
How am i supposed to learn reading comprehension by reading how to learn it? Cyclical dependency feels bad man.

I wasn't being serious...

Way to dodge the fact that I never mentioned the ANUS staff and made points you decided to ignore in favor of condemning acts of terror on a website who supports a terrorist. Just so you know, I'm no longer replying to your posts; I have milked you for all you are worth.

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