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Metal / Realization of the unity of life in Beherit lyrics
« on: April 22, 2008, 01:20:58 AM »
Satan represents man as just another animal, sometimes better,
more often worse than those who walk on all fours, who,
because of his "divine spiritual and intellectual development"
has become the most vicious animal of all..

Hail Satan

~ Beherit - Drawing Down the Moon  

Most men feel that living nature is just there for them to exploit. And those who make the most fuss over certain forms, or all forms, of exploitation of man by man are often the first to support the most thorough exploitation of animal-kind by man. We believe that, as long as this attitude prevails in the world, man will not cease to be, himself, just an animal among others; cleverer than the others as a rule, but in no way essentially different from them. He will never become the actually superior species which he could be if he only realized in which way lies his true line of progress.

~ Savitri Devi - The Impeachment of Man

Both recognise in their own way the current state of humanity in evolutionary limbo. that is to say, within the process of overcoming primitive intstincts and all current intelligence as an extension of those instincts, surpassing intelligence with spirit.

I thought the Beherit quote was interesting as an example of this viewpoint in development. Implying that one would first know power and death in the animal sense before realising and becoming a part of some higher order of life.

later on in H418ov21C. it appears to come full circle with:

planet earth is a beautiful place -
a beautiful sky

we are all under the one sky -

and the sky is beautiful

Interzone / Re: Nazis hate death metal, fuck Nazis
« on: April 21, 2008, 07:00:01 PM »
there's a steep divide between modern neo-nazi groups and early national-socialism and traditionalist thinkers. the former can even be created with the intent of downgrading the validity of such an ideology, yet most people here are too comfortable to consider the difference if indeed they see it. which is quite stupid.

i'm not saying it's a 100% flawless system, but aren't some of better virtues of that society obvious? not to mention that the popular alternatives haven't worked and in fact seem to be destroying the world at record speed.

Metal / Re: Moonsorrow ARE NOT Nazis
« on: April 19, 2008, 03:46:01 PM »
Why does one assume it's Nazi to recognize that if one replaces one's biological population with others, culture and uniqueness are destroyed?

well it's not unique to NS, but that's the most obvious example of a working ideology targeting the issue in a modern arena.

while i can see the value in de-emphasising the destructive attitude and imagery which the "N" word has taken on over time from a handful of bands that were more concerned with anti-morality than any founding ideology, most people seem to go completely the other way and feel morally obliged to prove they're still operating within socially acceptable territory - which as mentioned is rather pathetic behaviour for a metal listener.

Interzone / Re: Poetry for lack of a better word?
« on: April 16, 2008, 03:26:00 AM »
there is no reality for cretins but beastiality
the brutality of man sodomising animal is beautiful
to those obsessed by the twisted push and pull
of an unnatural union between the sphincter and man
of the unwilling beast being filled with semen
He robs the chastity voilently of a horse
and leaves nothing but dismembered corpse

here you are exaggerating on the low-end of all organisms which is mankind (or an aspect of man as dominator), who's perceptual capabilities are of a higher order, and who really should know better regarding the treatment of animals and the environment, but who has mostly only demonstrated the most severe perversions of his power.

Interzone / Re: Nazis hate death metal, fuck Nazis
« on: April 16, 2008, 02:47:24 AM »

most of the soldiers towards the end of the war were unwillingly pushed into the army, and were often little more than young boys or old men.

not to mention the obvious genocide, etc. but then a lot of people here seem anti-semitic, so what do i know?

i agree with you though, the fat capitalists are as guilty and worthless as any Nazi.

it's the same with any army, they're composed of doers not thinkers.

likewise in any society, there are followers and there are leaders (thinkers), so in reality anyone can be 'blindly' devoted to any cause, not just NS. however it's obvious which ideology aroused the more honest devotion in it's people.

the real question is: which ideology ensures a healthier way of life for most people? maybe nothing is altogether perfect but there are many great aspects of NS thought once you get past the predjudices of the winner's history with it's constant insistence on atrocities, guilt, racism, evil, pity, loss of freedoms etc etc.. most arguments against NS seem to originate in some moralistic kneejerk reaction like this.

Interzone / Re: Sexual selectivity
« on: April 10, 2008, 03:24:51 PM »
And to actually make a valid comment here, mating to intentionally produce offspring with certain desired traits, I find to be one of the noblest acts a person can participate in.

But here's a tought: what to do when, against the parents' best intentions, a defective baby is born. Either born with flippers and gills, or mentally retarded, or whatever the case?

a stolid, well-aimed punch at the baby's head is illegal in democratic countries of the modern era. and rightly so. like with anything, the root of the problem should be dealt with first. i.e. what causes the defect. it's not always avoidable, but certainly, if you consider that a newborn child is nothing but an extension of the parents then naturally part of the blame can be aimed at what they are (genetically) - that can't be changed or resticted, however lifestyle can be - and surely lifestyle plays the bigger part in altering genes over time anyway.

Interzone / Re: Vikernes' release
« on: April 09, 2008, 04:47:58 PM »
fatalism doesn't seem like a part of his personality. if he's not as vibrant and energetic as before maybe that's because he's learned a better way to accomplish his goals throughout the experience. conviction to his beliefs hasn't deteriorated - the core of his beliefs haven't changed.

Interzone / Re: Sexual selectivity
« on: April 07, 2008, 08:13:22 PM »
But an honest answer is required here... don't you think?
How many among you wouldn't enjoy the same which you are criticizing?


definitely not, it's always better to live in truth regardless; to never be with a partner than to be with the wrong partner.

the reason: there's more to humanity at this point of our evolution than simply reproducing ourselves. fuck whatever freud says.

Metal / Re: Mexicans strike back against EMO
« on: April 03, 2008, 01:33:04 AM »
who's up next ?
goths ?

well it's all the same to their parents right??

Metal / Re: Personality of Hessians
« on: April 03, 2008, 01:27:31 AM »

I did however feel like I wanted to answer both replies a lot of the time.  Mostly about questions about "mercy and justice" and things like that.  I found it difficult to answer them.  My guess is that most of you picked the answer you wish applied to you, which is what I almost did, but decided not to.  

that's the problem i've always had with these tests, it's all about how you preceive the question - and mostly it's structure is too narrow to capture a clear sense of the person. it feels innacurate however you answer it. surely they accomodated for that bias when designing the test, but it still won't make it any more valuable to me.


Metal / Re: Metalhead girl kicked to death
« on: March 27, 2008, 06:25:43 PM »
was he really into metal? i guess it doesn't matter. the point is humans are becoming increasingly violent (irrespective of niche sub-culture) and are much less guided in where to direct it than in the past. ironically 99% of people will adopt their own equally violent attitudes to the situation, most obviously with hatred against the boy - then there's probably even a monority of cynical assholes out there who say she deserved it or feel too disconnected to care. but it solves nothing.

i blame the junkfood industry and 'freedom to be an individual'.

Metal / Re: Pig Destroyer
« on: March 27, 2008, 05:37:41 PM »
"i saw this strange video where some sort of monkey/man hybrid just started screaming in a room full of other money/men hybrids, with heads bobbing and electricity being taken for granted"

Interzone / Re: Beethoven
« on: March 27, 2008, 12:54:17 AM »

And why are the wills of classical music copyrighted to those of European descent? If the music of Beethoven have been written by a black slave would it metamorphosis into a grotesque gesture? It is ludicrous to think that the human will has the confines of boarders and race. Classical music is European in origin but it is human in spirit. To deny any man the pleasure of this pursuit seems one of the cruelest acts man can know.

The Greeks gained culture by imitating the east, the Romans from the Greeks, do they lack culture because they took from a superior source? We enrich those to whom we give classical music, not defile an indefilable expression of human triumph of will.

i didn't mean it like that. of course anyone in any time can relate to a beautiful higher culture as it occurs in the arts; and at a certian level it surpasses race, but it doesn't eschew it or have some pathetic moralistic reaction against it like the modern west has.

to deny race and the beauty of its inherent culture behind an artform is every bit as ludicrous. ideally we should be inspired by the best elements of other cultures/peoples, but our perception of it is based on our own cultural filters. nothing copies entirely, even under force.

anyway, in this situation mentioned, modern europeans are racially suicidal whilst the chinese are a mass-consuming, imitating supervirus - the two only help each other degenerate. it's obviously not going to work the other way, with europeans ported over into traditional chinese music. why?

Interzone / Re: Facebook
« on: March 25, 2008, 06:08:40 PM »
you can use facebook to play chess with your friends, what more do you want out of it?

Interzone / Re: Ritualistic sound
« on: March 25, 2008, 06:01:14 PM »
mayhem - de mysteriis dom sathanas, especially with the vocals on the last track.

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