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Interzone / Re: "The poor": kill them
« on: April 01, 2014, 06:35:34 AM »
Good thing we have safety nets no matter the cost because now there are no car jackings, drug dealings, ransomings or home invasions. You right wingers were starting to scare me there. Beats the pre-modern time when there wasn't a welfare system as such and crime was just rampant. True story.

Interzone / Re: "The poor": kill them
« on: April 01, 2014, 03:55:38 AM »
Many of these poor are just thieves. They go to voting stations in droves and always elect candidates who falsely claim it is moral to steal resources from stable working families for poor people and their useless social programs. Compulsory donations from everyone's paycheck is theft not charity and theft is something that any moral society would punish. That's the lesser evil.

The greater evil is the devaluation of the currency from decades of cramming money into the war on poverty gopher hole. Infrastructure, emergency services, airports, national defense, research and development, environmental conservation, schools and the very cost of food are all pressured because of this useless, wicked burden. Rich, middle and poor alike are all worse off from the pity based ill logic that is murdering civilization.

Interzone / Re: What is conservatism?
« on: March 31, 2014, 11:39:51 PM »
A divine intent, as well as personal conscience, rules society

This is a religious claim. Shouldn't we restrict our definition of conservatism to the political realm?

Divine intent doesn't necessarily have to mean will of the god of the bible. Why not understand it as the intangible informational plane ordering the material plane into its best state? People without divine conscious will muck up their material state into third world living.

Interzone / Re: Deep Ecology is bullshit
« on: March 29, 2014, 06:11:11 PM »
This is a bit of fallacious equivocation. Deep ecologist = someone who wants to revert to animal skins, mud huts and nose bones? No that's a primitivist, hence the obvious distinction in terms. Deep ecology is much closer to futurist-traditionalist-minimalism than extreme techno-social regression.

Interzone / Re: Mental health failure
« on: March 29, 2014, 01:03:12 AM »
(CNN) -- One in 68 U.S. children has an autism spectrum disorder (ASD), a 30% increase from 1 in 88 two years ago, according to a new report released Thursday by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

This newest estimate is based on the CDC's evaluation of health and educational records of all 8-year-old children in 11 states: Alabama, Wisconsin, Colorado, Missouri, Georgia, Arkansas, Arizona, Maryland, North Carolina, Utah and New Jersey.

The incidence of autism ranged from a low of 1 in 175 children in Alabama to a high of 1 in 45 in New Jersey, according to the CDC.

Children with autism continue to be overwhelmingly male. According to the new report, the CDC estimates 1 in 42 boys has autism, 4.5 times as many as girls (1 in 189).


At a glance, higher population density, urbanization and the accompanying pollutant concentration are likely suspects. The sickly shall inherit the earth.

Interzone / Re: The Social Animal?
« on: March 28, 2014, 11:35:39 PM »
I should say politics coupled with public life is a symptom of the modern era with its mass democracy. What went on between the nobles and royalty or emperor and senate wasn't so public I suspect nor was the commoner ever politically involved at all. Oh, the injustice of it all.

Interzone / The Social Animal?
« on: March 28, 2014, 11:09:26 PM »

Question unearthed somewhere on the internet:

A man without politics is a man outside of society. Can someone truly be human without a society?

I'd say the social animal attributes are prerequisites for a chronically modern man.

Interzone / Re: The Occult History of the Third Reich
« on: March 24, 2014, 05:13:56 PM »
Oh those ANUS guys? They're not a death metal and nihilism forum they're just a bunch of right wing fascists.

Interzone / Re: Crimea 2014
« on: March 22, 2014, 06:35:06 AM »
Westerner thinks: it would be better if Putin take care of that barbaric land full of such disgusting rabid dogs.

No they don't at all. Ukraine isn't considered non-Western in a biological or cultural sense. Incivility isn't as important: we can read the crime reports about our own kind in our own newspapers. Such contempt is sometimes held for non-white foreign people however.

Interzone / Re: A continual cycle
« on: March 20, 2014, 06:10:26 AM »
The key according to them is policy making. Conservation and limited distribution are the kind of policies that would spread "poverty" in the modern sense. Few people would vote for civilization tomorrow if it probably meant a simpler, agrarian life without cellphones and microwaves for themselves in their lifetimes.

Interzone / Re: Linkposts: NoNoNos.
« on: March 19, 2014, 06:14:50 PM »
Seconded. A little more informative substance would be appreciated.

Interzone / Re: Crimea 2014
« on: March 17, 2014, 05:06:18 PM »
Willard: They told me that you had gone totally insane, and that your methods were unsound.

Kurtz: Are my methods unsound?

Willard: I don't see any method at all, sir.

Interzone / Re: Crimea 2014
« on: March 17, 2014, 03:59:07 AM »
They voted secession from Ukraine. Are they going to be a new nation or a new state in Russia? If they're going for independence by way of the ballot then it would seem very odd for the democratic countries to talk about economic sanctions in response.

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 07, 2014, 01:53:12 AM »
I smiled at that. Not least because God - in the Christian view - is actually a person, with a personality, and a whole pile of neuroses and insecurities and fears, like any other person. Hmmm.

If the Divine is supposed to be perfect, it can't have human imperfections and idiosyncrasies. People have been projecting their own qualities into things in order to have a basis to begin understanding. It's like a computer requiring the timestamp off its internal clock as a basis for random number generations. Or, you need to know your own position in land navigation to orient your bearing toward your destination.

Computers are often pretty poor at truly randomizing things. People can still get lost while going somewhere even if they have an approximate heading. Religious scholars and atheists alike can fail to understand God. A subjective quality can be a flawed starting point but it is often the only possible place to begin unfortunately.

Interzone / Re: Crimea 2014
« on: March 06, 2014, 03:45:48 AM »
The subtext is always there as an unspoken conditional. Place X for X-ies while they are underdog. If X-ies are not underdog then place X is deemed borderless. It isn't really about self determination in principle but about public displays of vicarious pity. Displaying pity and other sorts of humanitarian emoting is the principle of liberalism. Condemnation and denouncement of the oppressor is the other side of the principled emoting coin.

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