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Interzone / Re: An oral history of ANUS.com forums
« on: February 10, 2010, 04:38:53 AM »
Anthropology or racial issues fall under biological determinism, which has pretty much dropped off the radar. You'll find more of it elsewhere.

Metal / Re: Varg humor
« on: February 10, 2010, 12:31:37 AM »
Push that which is falling..

Interzone / Re: Power as an inherited trait.
« on: February 10, 2010, 12:24:40 AM »
Sometimes they are recruited from outside, sometimes they are rotated in from having held other officer exec positions in the organization. Up, up the ladder.

Metal / Re: Cannibal Corpse
« on: February 08, 2010, 04:07:19 PM »

Interzone / Re: Would you rape the ass of Christ?
« on: February 07, 2010, 09:54:35 PM »
Feel free to elaborate on your video games lifestyle in whatever detail you believe relevant. But, in your spare time, go ahead and generate lectures about "lack of" Real World Activisms.

Interzone / Re: Haiti & foreign aid
« on: February 07, 2010, 10:12:04 AM »
People like to cry over foreign places or romanticize them, because people hate their own lives. That's why all the make-work talking heads are weeping over Haiti, and even the fat impoverished people in grocery stores are sending their $10 through their cell phones. It's a giant scam that will contribute nothing in the end except "good feelings," and as with drugs, people will do a lot for that.

That's true, but there is also a parallel factor at work. There is a professional strata of people, "experts", who use events like these to get ahead by going and directly contributing to humanitarian relief. It's quite a bit like Bernard Madoff's case, where an unscrupulous guy uses his circumstances and incoming opportunities to get himself ahead, but society pays the price for him.

This class of expert is the medical professional who flies in, patches people up for a couple days, then flies home receiving all the back pats and golf claps from family, friends and those collegues who couldn't go. It's street cred again. If he drags an orphan or two back with him for adoption, why that's another order of magnitude more valuable cred.

Hey, what judge, besides an Evil One, is going to lay the hammer down on a malpractice offender who in his career happened to have collected humanitarian opportunity credits like Haiti for example? What hospital board is going to ask such a Great Guy to resign? Nah, humanitarian cred is resume material in bold type and grounds for senior staff advisory promotion: no more bloody hands or urine stained smock. It's suit and mahogany desk time, baby, yeah!

Interzone / Re: Would you rape the ass of Christ?
« on: February 07, 2010, 04:50:31 AM »
The metaphorically and/or social cues challenged are usually persons of austic diversity aren't they?

Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: February 07, 2010, 04:43:24 AM »
Conclusion: I do not see where we could really disagree.

I never saw any disagreement.

Interzone / Re: Genetic Engineering
« on: February 06, 2010, 01:57:35 AM »
Transhumanism will work out about like environmentalism.

Jacking up genes is "likely to produce broad metabolic, genetic, and proteomic changes," noted the authors.


Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: February 05, 2010, 02:05:49 AM »
I'll grant that a man is part of and not the whole of reality, so a standard for what is moral, if moral is taken to mean, "actions and beliefs that consistently function correctly", essentially lie outside a given man's being and his time. What works in reality was there before him, and after him, and remains so with or without his presence. What works in our interactions as physics and these interactions as emergent effects over time is therefore a universal.

The problem with a man is his own ability to interface with reality; how accurately and consistently, as frequency and volume, he does so in life. It goes without saying that some people are more perceptive and some less so. Others value trustworthiness and altruism, but many care for neither. These characteristics and others are gradients, not binary categories. In addition, they may change over time from a multitude of factors: genes, nutrition, rest, injury, pity or jadedness that comes from experiences in a given context. The gradients dynamically shift in tone as it were from instance to instance for each man. Referring again to the Moral Existence clause, "frequency of actions and beliefs that consistently function correctly", this is effectively perfect inequality between men.

I'll also grant that we may be working with different interpretations for what is moral, which would be unfortunate since if we were, then one of us is off topic.

Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: February 04, 2010, 10:25:12 PM »
Your use of normally implies equality. That's an error.

Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: February 04, 2010, 12:28:55 AM »
Removing these interface layers is a return to Nature. By happy chance I surfed across something related to what i'm driving at. Others out there believe this to be the case as well:

Moreover, this idea [no god, no purpose] is a poisonous one. It robs us of the will to take action. It leads us on a path to despair and apathy. It’s destructive and cheapens our life. It’s a dud. ("Andrew" @ OD)

I have a sense that this is a bourgeois difficulty.

Lower-class males have no problem forming gangs, arming themselves, and pursuing various aggressive activities that replicate the pre-historic behavior of mankind in small kinship groups.

Whatever superstitions arose/arise in these prehistoric minds were/are epiphenomenal, in that the motivation to exploit one’s environment was/is not dependent upon philosophical notions.

As it was then, so it is today - kill something to eat and fuck something so you can go to sleep. No need to worry about “the will to take action”.

Nietzsche had something constructive to say on the point:

[BGE] 257. EVERY elevation of the type “man,” has hitherto been the work of an aristocratic society and so it will always be–a society believing in a long scale of gradations of rank and differences of worth among human beings, and requiring slavery in some form or other. Without the PATHOS OF DISTANCE, such as grows out of the incarnated difference of classes, out of the constant out-looking and down-looking of the ruling caste on subordinates and instruments, and out of their equally constant practice of obeying and commanding, of keeping down and keeping at a distance–that other more mysterious pathos could never have arisen, the longing for an ever new widening of distance within the soul itself, the formation of ever higher, rarer, further, more extended, more comprehensive states, in short, just the elevation of the type “man,” the continued “self-surmounting of man,” to use a moral formula in a supermoral sense. To be sure, one must not resign oneself to any humanitarian illusions about the history of the origin of an aristocratic society (that is to say, of the preliminary condition for the elevation of the type “man”): the truth is hard. Let us acknowledge unprejudicedly how every higher civilization hitherto has ORIGINATED! Men with a still natural nature, barbarians in every terrible sense of the word, men of prey, still in possession of unbroken strength of will and desire for power, threw themselves upon weaker, more moral, more peaceful races (perhaps trading or cattle-rearing communities), or upon old mellow civilizations in which the final vital force was flickering out in brilliant fireworks of wit and depravity. At the commencement, the noble caste was always the barbarian caste: their superiority did not consist first of all in their physical, but in their psychical power–they were more COMPLETE men (which at every point also implies the same as “more complete beasts”).

[And Kasimir Petrenko seconds the notion:]

“I have a sense that this is a bourgeois problem.” - NN

It is. The ‘man of conscience’ has replaced the ‘man of instinct’ and our vitality is now far below what it once was. With that we find ourselves in the present predicament. Forced to search for some ‘moral justification’ for our own survival, where our distant ancestors knew what to do without asking any question.


Interzone / Re: The Dawning Age of Lifeless Sterility
« on: February 03, 2010, 10:28:51 PM »
dumb = inert substance
smart = articulating parts, semi-autonomy, I/O interface

They're looking at packing this into a spray can for household consumer purposes. That's the patent. Eye glasses have had this or a similar coating for a few years already.

Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: February 03, 2010, 10:13:50 PM »
This social point of view is problematic. Yes, social order follows from the commandments, but the commandments do not follow from a human wish for order in groups. The commandments did not "evolve", they were handed down by God. I know of no sound alternative to this.

But, now we have additional layers atop those. There are constitutions, at least in our part of the world, and atop these are laws. Each of these layers had better interface perfectly with the one above it all the way to God, else error is introduced. Adding layers has not kept the prisons from overflowing from all the instances of criminality and stupidity taking place in our time.

Interzone / The Dawning Age of Lifeless Sterility
« on: February 03, 2010, 02:49:03 AM »
The liquid glass spray (technically termed “SiO2 ultra-thin layering”) consists of almost pure silicon dioxide (silica, the normal compound in glass) extracted from quartz sand. Water or ethanol is added, depending on the type of surface to be coated. There are no additives, and the nano-scale glass coating bonds to the surface because of the quantum forces involved. According to the manufacturers, liquid glass has a long-lasting antibacterial effect because microbes landing on the surface cannot divide or replicate easily.

Liquid glass was invented in Turkey and the patent is held by Nanopool, a family-owned German company. Research on the product was carried out at the Saarbrücken Institute for New Materials. Nanopool is already in negotiations in the UK with a number of companies and with the National Health Service, with a view to its widespread adoption.


We were all looking at applied nanotech back in the bbs days. Back then, ~7 years ago, because nanotech was in the planning and speculation phases, everything except simple, dumb-applications like carbon buckyball structures was impossible. At this point, we're getting into advanced dumb-apps with this glass spray. Next stage is probably basic smart apps like moving parts, articulating structures, little saws and windmills for as yet unconceived purposes. Later with advanced smart nanotech comes sensors, mobility, programmability and self-replication.

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