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1981
Interzone / Re: Nazis and Nationalism
« on: January 21, 2010, 02:30:30 AM »
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TEB: Many eugenicists feel it's best to be noncommittal on the race question, since it's not our major concern. What do you think?

CATTELL: I agree that the only reasonable thing is to be noncommittal on the race question — that's not the central issue, and it would be a great mistake to be sidetracked into all the emotional upsets that go on in discussions of racial differences. We should be quite careful to dissociate eugenics from it — eugenics' real concern should be with individual differences.

http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/authors/Lamb-Cattell.html

For anyone interested in topics like this, the article is worth a read. Although the extremist left will deny it due to their dependency on guilt-by-association fallacies, there is a substantive difference between the American/European New Right and the angry neo-Nazi stuff.

The former ranks the utilitarian as secondary, instead placing reality/truth/science first; information, potential and momentum that is immutable to the presence or absence of our social construct forms of morality which are the foundational ethics of the utilitarian (i.e. conquering nature). Yet, this harder road (e.g. eugenics) also essentially achieves utilitarian results, but as beneficial side effects rather than as fundamental purpose.

The latter seem more interested, at their very best, in struggling with the symptoms of having diversity and the suppression of political incorrectness. At the worst, it is the criminality of riffraff aimed at the defenseless, which is just pathetic and not at all a display of vigor.

1982
Interzone / Re: Conservation: realistic ways to be "green"
« on: January 20, 2010, 02:40:03 AM »
This stuff is pure gold. You're either an uncommon "expert" in some compartmentalized niche, or one of the overwhelming masses of helpless drones. The universally competent type doesn't openly have a place in the Great Society.

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Christopher Lasch, a left-wing populist who sounded at times suspiciously like a social conservative, defined the New Class ideology in terms of the ethos of “professionalism.” The Jeffersonian ideal of the independent yeoman farmer or tradesman--a well-rounded citizen capable of competently handling all issues that affected his daily life--was, in the view of the Progressives, obsolete. Instead, every aspect of life was to be “professionalized,” handed over to a class of “experts” protected from interference by the lower orders [Revolt of the Elites; The Culture of Narcissism; The True and Only Heaven]. This was unabashedly argued in The Promise of American Life by Herbert Croly, who sought to obtain “Jeffersonian ends with Hamiltonian means.” In this progressive manifesto, he praised “experts” and “intellectuals” in almost messianic terms.

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The citizen became a client whose obligation was to trust the professional. Legitimate authority now resided in special places like the courtroom, the classroom, and the hospital; and it resided in special words shared only by experts.

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John McKnight, in a speech to the 1976 retreat of the Brainerd, Minn. Community Planning Organization ["Are the Helping Systems Doing More Harm Than Good?” in Boyte pp. 173-174], described the ways the “helping professions” infantilize ordinary citizens.

http://majorityrights.com/index.php/weblog/comments/liberalism_and_social_control_the_new_class_will_to_power/

1983
Interzone / Re: Conservation: realistic ways to be "green"
« on: January 13, 2010, 01:49:38 AM »
Leftists, because they operate in a passive state of mind, want to make rules and have government enforce them.

There are some New Right people who call this mode of rulership soft totalitarianism. It doesn't work over the long haul for a few reasons. First, it is a micromanagement method. Second, because equal treatment is a leftist goal, the rules are made to be accessible to everyone, no matter how dumb, so the rules are oversimplified, cumbersome to distribute and enforce, and tend to fall short of making an effective impact (i.e. green consumerism). Third, you only need to bother following the rules when someone is looking over your shoulder, not because you care.

This discourages our own individual ownership of shared problems and taking personal responsibility for them. If we had a sense of reverence toward own lands and the people thereupon as a distinct cultural system it supports, the excess management structure could be trimmed back.

But then, we would have to part company with those many among us now who due to stupidity, criminal corruption, or laziness, just don't "get it". Sound unfair? If you're a leftist, yeah, definitely. If you're a realist, no, it's fair.

1984
We were fortunate enough to have had several local small record and tape stores that often doubled as head shops (pot smoker paraphenalia) that stocked classic metal albums. This was when AC/DC, Black Sabbath, and Judas Priest were the heaviest available, just prior to Iron Maiden's popularity on our shores.

Conservationist: what about proto-glam and party boy acts Twisted Sister, Quiet Riot, and WASP?

1985
Interzone / Re: Where are all the intellectuals?
« on: December 31, 2009, 11:10:01 PM »
Maybe this is how the universe itself dies... right before the next great cyclic decompression.

1986
Interzone / How The Morons dominate you
« on: December 21, 2009, 09:26:43 PM »

1987
Metal / Re: Second attempt at Death Metal
« on: December 18, 2009, 02:00:59 AM »
For some reason I was anticipating an opening stanza of vocals at 00:36 or 00:37. The leading guitar and percussion cadence reminds me of pre- Filosofem Burzum, perhaps like the song War. The composition is soaked in what could be black metal. Lead guitar structure resembles death metal. It's heavily blackened garage band death, old school, which possibly may have never happened before now.

1988
Metal / Re: Fully understanding metal
« on: December 18, 2009, 01:22:27 AM »
It helped me to think of black metal (Emperor, Darkthrone, etc.) not as "songs," but as sonic landscapes.

Or sculptures, or paintings, a journeying, but dynamic as a process having a conclusion. For me, black metal is a window or lens into the mysteries of the ancient world that aren't recorded much in history books. There is awe as the view over a vast mountain valley and exhilaration as in the opening scene of a battle to be found here. Death metal by contrast is a lens into surreal, fantastic places that do not exist, but we can have a connection to them nonetheless in the mind's eye and in feelings of horror, crawling revulsion and so forth.

1989
Interzone / Re: Overpopulation and birth limits
« on: December 16, 2009, 05:18:42 AM »
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non centralized non hierarchical political paradigms

If this is a euphemism for localization and tradition, the concepts are old hat around here. We must first embark on the journey before reaching such a destination. Our modern foundational core in anthropocentric humanism obstructs the way.

1990
Metal / Re: Burzum tracklist and cover art revealed
« on: December 16, 2009, 05:09:41 AM »
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"Belus" is not a religious album or an anti-religious album, nor is it a political one, but an attempt to explore the myths about Belus and unveil the oldest roots of our cultural heritage. The album deals with the death of Belus, his sombre journey through the realm of death and his magnificent return. In essence the album and the story of Belus is meant to be an entertaining story about something that once upon a time played a major role in the forming and shaping of Europe.

If art of any kind including black metal is going to be nationalist oriented, this is a superior standard because it builds with pride, indicating nobility and intelligence, rather than tears down in resentment as a conquered inferior revolting in cornered animal impotency. I wouldn't worry overmuch about the wrapper, but look instead to the contents inside.

1991
Interzone / Re: Genetic Engineering
« on: December 09, 2009, 11:06:41 PM »
I believe eugenics and godlike patience would be sufficient. Aren't any of the millions of extraordinary humans in the world right now effectively superhuman when compared to an old proto-human ancestor from a few million years ago?

Modernity is already overflowing with excessively hands-on applications of our ongoing understanding. The results are often um, disappointing. I would expect genetic engineering to also result in unforeseen catastrophes.

Take mechanized farming and chemical agriculture for an example. The planet is plugged full of excess people, the natural nitrogen cycle of crops is broken depriving the food of the potassium we are supposed to be getting resulting in hidden nasty side effects, the waters are contaminated with poison - more nasty hidden side effects, but oh, look at what progress is doing for us: "nobody" is starving now.

No transhumanism of any kind please. We need to take the evolutionary path set for us and only gently nudge it along the way (eugenics, competition). If it takes millenia to work the bugs out of an extraordinarily complex system, that's fine. It's better than randomly experimenting and almost assuredly meeting one catastrophe after another to no end.

1992
Interzone / Re: Dogs
« on: December 08, 2009, 10:38:11 PM »
Man and canine have a long history together. But, the history was a working relationship until modern times. The beasts today are often mere accessories and entertainment which is another indication of our modern decadence. They used to go to war, hunt with us and guard the land. For canines, about the only legitimate, non-disgraceful role remaining for them is in law enforcement and fire-rescue.

1993
Interzone / Re: The Return of the "Nativists"
« on: December 08, 2009, 04:47:37 AM »
The question whether immigrants are allowed to impose changes on the indigenous people is another one, and I see that clearly.

The immigrants are not the cause.

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It is possible to answer it to the negative and still call the decision to ban Minarets wrong.

The minarets subpolitics is making "the average voter" appear wrongfully biased and even if they win the issue as they did, they still lose, because the immigrants remain nonetheless. Notice they aren't getting a vote on whether to have immigrants. The average voters and the immigrants are not to blame. They're each pawns while it is only the string pullers who are either unnamed in the news or who cast themselves as champions of the underdog by denouncing the Swiss vote.

I would say that's an example of a flourishing evil in this world.

1994
Interzone / Re: The Return of the "Nativists"
« on: December 06, 2009, 11:23:31 PM »
Switzerland is a successful nexus of German, French and Italian. Now, there is Islam. Why?

1995
Interzone / Re: Science is selfish
« on: December 04, 2009, 04:17:02 AM »
What an interesting topic. Should one's role in society be a method, which is modern, or a goal, which is pre-modern?

If it's a method it's often a tiresome chore to get what you really want like just money. The quality of the output from these professions will need to be maintained using managerial coercion. I guess that's freedom or something.

If it's a goal it'll probably be a labor of love, as with extreme metal musicians and other starving artist types. Quality is tied to one's own pride and esteem, especially if it is further tied to an inherited tradition and peer judgement. So then caste or hereditary trade and craft isn't freedom?

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