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Metal / Re: "Modern death metal" doesn't exist
« on: September 28, 2009, 12:48:43 PM »
I recently gave Nile - In Their Darkened Shrines a few more listens. It's a good death metal album, but somehow much different than the late 80s DM as if it has transitioned to a new state. In contrast, Demilich - Nespithe was the old pioneer character at core, yet launched their effort out from a new angle.

Interzone / Re: The Return
« on: September 26, 2009, 11:22:01 AM »

Exterminate defect.

Interzone / Re: LOL@modern depression treatment
« on: September 25, 2009, 12:11:29 PM »
Modern societies tend to produce two kinds of people: oblivious fools, or obliviots, who fail to notice failure and just blunder on like drunken gourmands; and depressed smarter people, who realize that the long-term prognosis for such stupid decisions is awful, but simultaneously note that everyone else is an obliviot, therefore there’s little chance of change.

So they sink into depression and solipsism (right), or depression and narcissism (left), which in fact worsens the problem by removing them from interaction with reality, which is the one thing that could actually undo the problem.

It’s brilliant.

Now, new research on depression shows us how it is habit-forming. Notice bad things, live in a state of terror and negativity, and soon you can’t see good things — like how just acting sensibly toward a goal could remove all the problems you see, easily.

Depression: a lack of goal

Interzone / Re: Activities for Hessians
« on: September 24, 2009, 08:35:17 PM »
6 spread tribal, nationalistic and warlike memes
6 manipulate minds using cognitive dissonance and ostracism
6 honor any heroes, scorn all defectives

Interzone / Re: LOL@modern depression treatment
« on: September 24, 2009, 03:42:25 PM »
The pills are just there to make the patient more receptive to making positive changes in their life.

You're right. There are at least three interests at work. The depressed patient. The physician attending to the patient. The pill providers and government oversight the providers see breathing down their necks. Not all three are on the same page.

That being said, i wouldn't beta test pills produced by people with only a partial understanding of the brain.

Do patients always know they are part of trial testing?

Interzone / Re: Did all music die in the 1990s?
« on: September 24, 2009, 09:38:26 AM »
Every society goes through stagnation, its not until they are pushed to "need" something, or someone feels its missing that the wheels of innovation turn.

Most of the great ones thus far exhausted themselves and never returned to their former glory. Perhaps Germania and China will have another go at the greatness thing.

Interzone / Re: Did all music die in the 1990s?
« on: September 24, 2009, 07:30:15 AM »
Civilization exhaustion affects more than music. Salvatore writes some of the last epic fantasy fiction in the 90s.

In computer science, GUI and OOP are matured but not improved upon. The same goes for web scripting: Perl, JS, VBS, Active X were all matured more than a decade ago. The other stuff is semi-propietary fluff.

Warfare is not noticeably more advanced. Thermal imaging, DU and tungsten munitions and armor, ceramics, explosive reactive armor, cluster, thermobaric and FASCAM rounds have long been perfected. The only thing that raises an eyebrow is upcoming railgun naval cannons that are not yet implemented.

Transportation is not improved upon at all. Cars just look a little different, a lot of them now have tracking devices and there are more than ever in the world.

All the hustle and bustling activity everywhere is an illusion. Stagnation is setting in.

Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:25:48 PM »
I just think it's harder to ascertain what is truly in the heart and soul as opposed to an IQ.

That being said, either way works for me.  I don't care about trash.

Given an individual's various physical and mental potentials, what have they done with their lives thus far? A personal history survey might reveal some things about character. Covert observation under scripted scenarios the subject responds to is another. Personality typology should be given consideration along with potential.

Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 18, 2009, 06:33:46 PM »
The image that has generated so much controversy I read as a metaphor which states a goal. Idiots, cowards, defectives are a definite problem. Why tolerate them?

Some of the reactions were in response to the method suggested in the image, which is to literally shoot living morons to death.

This has been another exercise demonstrating how people paralyze themselves and enforce this paralysis on one another so that nothing better takes place in the world. It is the conflation of method and goal.

Interzone / Re: Liberals are just secular Christians
« on: September 15, 2009, 09:58:51 AM »
Empathy for individuals doesn't mean you give in to every stupid impulse they have.

Right on. Empathy isn't synonymous with sympathy. Empathy means you can read people's motives and desires. It doesn't go further in definition into appeasement and capitulation, or an opposite reaction of revulsion. It's a gift for having a means for understanding what drives others.

Dumb people seem to confuse revulsion with a lack of empathy, when in fact it could mean someone is gifted with it. They'll insist that appeasement means empathy and other responses are a lack thereof. They're conflating means and ends.

Interzone / Re: Heavy metal gets replies 42% of time on dating sites
« on: September 14, 2009, 07:12:31 PM »
Like so many things, this is probably a mixed bag. They're people who live lives well adjusted - to having failed at the society game.

Metal / Re: Liberal ideology in satanic black metal
« on: September 14, 2009, 05:44:07 AM »

There is perfect unity at the top, increasingly elementary simplification of forms moving down, and finally total incoherence at the state farthest from.

Interzone / Re: The weight of eternity
« on: September 13, 2009, 02:21:17 PM »
We do not physically end as such either. The gases escape the grave and enter the atmosphere. The worms and grubs take the solids for nutrients. When they die or are eaten their molecules that were once us enter the atmosphere. Even with the Earth's death as a barren cinder drifting through freezing darkness ten billion years hence, it'll get swallowed up in some new gravity well adding its mass to a new stellar birthing once more. Recycling is natural.

Metal / Liberal ideology in satanic black metal
« on: September 11, 2009, 06:46:45 PM »
Satanic black metal is a vector for liberalism.

* Anti-identity: we are anti-Christian but not pro- anything. What are we? Nothing.
* Egoism: There is no god. I am my own god!
* Revolutionary left mentality: tear down the established order but no rebuilding proposal.
* Nihilism as its own goal: see anti-identity
* Individualist: see anti-identity, egoism

Interzone / Re: Liberals are just secular Christians
« on: September 10, 2009, 04:21:56 PM »
So cruelty is fine, normal and natural but kindness is not?

Here's why I believe you have a strawman argument. I'll even play devil's advocate in the interests of audi alteram partem.

The Romans were kind as such toward their own, the imperial in-group. Cruelty as such was for the out-group like degenerated Carthage, the barbarians, etc.

But the idea that all of it was cruelty, or all of it was kindness is itself absolutist, perhaps also deconstrictive. A culture arrives at a set of standards and treats those who meet, exemplify (hero), or defy (enemy) these standards accordingly. For the Romans and others, it is a values judgement having different outcomes depending on a given instance.

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