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Interzone / Re: Good places for metalheads to take over
« on: July 04, 2009, 09:38:35 PM »
Whoa, ease off the hippies man. The non-humanitarian naturalist ones I mean.

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Interzone / Re: Treat depression with folate
« on: July 02, 2009, 10:36:25 PM »
I actually get a buzz after a good meal followed up with B, C and minerals supplements. It's as good a buzz as after working out, maybe even like the rare runner's high. Drugs and booze is a sick joke by comparison. If your body needs it and you haven't abused it to breaking, it will probably give you a good feeling reward for providing it essential resources.

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Interzone / Re: How crippling is alcohol?
« on: July 02, 2009, 01:27:12 AM »
Russia: excessive alcohol consumption led to more than half of all deaths for ages 15 to 54. That's basically like the attrition from a major war in their midst for several years now. Alcohol isn't the cause of death. Something else causes these people to go for the booze, but like school shootings, media sources, as if under orders, won't give us a hint.

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Interzone / Re: Sheep Shepherd Farmer
« on: July 01, 2009, 02:00:34 AM »
Posted elsewhere last year, here's a caste outline for electronic discussion forums.

Kings
The kings rule and control. They create the format, assert decorum and offer relevant discussion topics.

Warriors
The warriors engage with the given topics and only the topics (goals, ideas) battling to find the truth within each. These are the brightest people who honorably agree or disagree using reasoning on relevant topics. What can be agreed upon can then be acted upon with a wisened consensus forged in the crucible of reasoned debate.

Peasants
The peasants are confused, revolting or cowed. They are semi-literate and jump to false conclusions because due to limited ability, they have long since run out of ideas and find themselves bored with life. So they tax their betters for their own amusement. They'll posit a strawman argument and beat it to death as if an effigy, post inappropriate content to "make the nazis mad", or passively read as non-participants. They even slaughter each other. Peasants are best ignored if not dismissed.

Peddlers
The peddlers come from elsewhere and pass through the kingdom leaving unwanted junk that needs to be cleaned up in their wake. Visiting many realms, they appear to have numerous places to call home, but truly, they have none because while they are able to visit anywhere, nobody wants them to stay for good. Virtually all peddlers now are web bots posting ads for dong enlargement products or sexy fashion knickers.

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Interzone / Re: Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola
« on: June 26, 2009, 12:24:16 AM »
Hey, at least they get to look cool while oblivious, gobbling, gabbing and decorating. This has got to be an extrovert inversion of the INTJ/Aspie type, where never speaking one's mind is normal rather than challenging and vocalizing always trumps reflective inner dialogue. Leap first, look later. Freaks.

Normal folks are socially adaptive. They'll benefit by speaking their minds only when the setting and audience are right. The hipster never does and is eventually loathed, the Aspie always does and is often foolish for doing so.

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Interzone / Re: It's cool to be out of touch
« on: June 24, 2009, 03:32:45 PM »
Most of our cool 21st century gadgets are now engineered to exploit the end user, multiplying the value of the object to the seller with invisible costs to you. Tracking end user behavioural metrics while sharing your clock cycles and bandwidth is a big one in modern computing. You lose endless milliseconds of computing time constantly and the tracker sells your metrics to a third party. You get nothing back in return and the stolen time each day cannot be relived via time travel. Disconnecting from such excesses is like pulling parasites off your body. There are always better things in life than cool gadgets.

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Interzone / Re: Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola
« on: June 23, 2009, 04:57:13 PM »
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In response to the coming impact of peak oil, John Michael Greer helps us envision the transition from an industrial society to a sustainable ecotechnic world - not returning to the past, but creating a society that supports relatively advanced technology on a sustainable resource base.

The use of dissensus here is akin to pan-nationalism, or more broadly, autonomous micro-states to replace the interdependent modern empire states. Most of the various approaches are dead ends, but they remain historically recursive. The idea with dissensus, pan-nationalism or micro-states is that failure is always allowed room, but it is unable to ever dominate the whole. The price is that success is also always limited to its own place.

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Human societies, like ecosystems, evolve in complex and unpredictable ways, making it futile to try to impose rigid ideological forms on the patterns of evolutionary change. Instead, social change must explore many pathways over which we have no control. The troubling and exhilarating prospect of an open-ended future, he proposes, requires dissensus - a deliberate acceptance of radical diversity that widens the range of potential approaches to infinity.

http://www.newsociety.com/bookid/4051

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Interzone / Re: God is dead, and we have killed him.
« on: June 23, 2009, 02:51:54 PM »
Category 2 is the "civic religion of multiculturalism and antifascism" commonplace in this hemisphere.

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Interzone / Re: God is dead, and we have killed him.
« on: June 23, 2009, 01:39:56 PM »
If I'm understanding accurately, we are naturally driven to understand ourselves. The best way to do so is in a holistic manner by including the context/world/reality where we find ourselves. Perhaps there is a heirarchy of understanding ourselves, much like that heirarchy of religious belief systems.

1. holistic, non-anthropocentric = non-modern or traditional thinking
2. holistic, anthropocentric = smarter lefty moderns and Judeo-Christians
3. atomized, anthropocentric = average modern person
4. comatose or mentally retarded

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Interzone / Re: God is dead, and we have killed him.
« on: June 20, 2009, 10:46:02 PM »
If I'm missing the point of the topic, then may I ask, what does God represent that has died and should be replaced?

You're asking exactly the right question. Jehovah is compost, but having a god remains. So, what's our god now? I believe you've answered it in your post: our own selves. The reason why the results radically differ from what your alternate future description suggests is that each person involved is really not of Napoleonic or Nietzschean quality individually. They're rather average at best. We can observe the modern world, with every humanzee fantasizing that he is important and capable (he isn't), with himself his only god. Put mildly, the results are disappointing with very few exceptions.

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Interzone / Re: The Bible as an environmentalist text
« on: June 13, 2009, 09:49:57 PM »
Like nationalism in later parts of the Bible, responsible stewardship of the Earth and living things is implied in Genesis. But like New Age Christian humanism and Marxism disguised now in One World God antinationalism tracts, the words are bent to fit whatever selfish short term pursuits the mercantilist interests see fit to fund. The merchant caste is running amok because our warriors too seldom make an appearance or are incarcerated in supermax and our thinkers are reduced to taking up their slack with a strong show of words.

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Interzone / Re: Who's who in hell from the Judeo-Christian pantheon
« on: June 03, 2009, 02:55:23 AM »
Some person or persons during the very beginnings of civilization (Mesopotamia, Sumer, Babylon) had enough luxury time to create a mythical pantheon in such detail that major world religions would spring out of it. These would later dominate half the world, today. But, history and science today are laying their own foundations for dominion.

Another site with a similar list http://www.djmcadam.com/demons.htm

These are fascinating beliefs made by who I consider other people that are also part of Western Civilization. Still, my own ancestors did not create feverish Heaven, Hell, angels and demons myths as such. Mine were more earthy, seasonal, pastoral, warlike and ancestral in belief. In metal terms, we are more akin to Summoning, Graveland and Burzum, much less the satanic stuff.

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Interzone / Who's who in hell from the Judeo-Christian pantheon
« on: June 02, 2009, 10:10:31 PM »
Several metal names to be found here.

Abaddon   King of Demons. Better known by his Greek name Apollyon.
Abigor                 A horseman with a lance and scepter, commanding 60 legions of devils.
Adramelech   Chancellor of Hell and President of The High Council of Devils.
Aguares   Grand Duke of Eastern Hell, commanding 30 legions of devils.
Alocer                 Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 36 legions of devils.
Amduscias   Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 29 legions, popular with black magicians.
Andras                 Marquis of Hell, commanding 30 legions of devils.
Asmodeus   Head of the Casinos of Hell, banished to the desert by Raphael.
Astaroth   Grand Duke of Western Hell, Lord Treasurer of Hell.
Astarte                 One of a number of heathen gods and goddesses sometimes consigned to Hell.
Aym                 Grand Duke of Hell, commanding 26 legions of demons. Also Haborym.
Ayperos   Prince of Hell, commanding 36 legions of devils.
Azazel                 Standard Bearer of the armies of Hell. Also Satanael.
Baal                 Commanding General of the Infernal Armies.
Baalberith   Chief Secretary and Archivist of Hell, a second-order demon. Also Berith.
Balan                 Prince of Hell.
Bearded Demon, the   His name cannot be given lest people deal with him in search of the Philosopher's Stone (as King Solomon and Paracelsus are said to have done).

Beelzebub   Prince of Demons, Lord of the Flies, second only to Satan.
Belial                Prince of Trickery, Demon of Sodomy, sometimes called The Antichrist. It is likely he is also the one called Zephar by the German demonologist Weir.
Belphegor   Demon of Ingenious Discoveries and Wealth.
Buer                 Second-order demon but commanding 50 legions of devils.
Caym                Grand President of Hell
Charon                 Boatman of Hell who ferries souls across the Styx or Archeron
Chax                 Grand Duke of Hell. Also Scox.
Cresil                 Demon of impurity and slovenliness (according to Sebastien Michaelis, 1613).
Dagon                 Baker of Hell, member of the House of Princes.
Eurynomus   Prince of Hell who feeds on corpses.
Furfur                 Count of Hell, commanding 26 legions of demons.
Geryon                 Giant centaur who (Dante said) guards Hell. Others say the guardian is a dragon.
Hecate                Queen of the witches.
Jezebeth   Demon of Falsehoods.
Kasdeya   According to The Book of Enoch (LXIX:12) 'the fifth Satan.'
Kobal                Entertainment Director of Hell, patron of comedians
Leonard   Inspector-General of Black Magic and Sorcery, The Great Negro of the witches' sabbats as a giant black goat. In Germany, Urian.
Leviathan   Grand Admiral of Hell; androgynous, he is said to have seduced both Adam and Eve.
Lilith                 Princess of Hell, first wife of Adam.
Malphas   Grand President of Hell, commanding 40 legions of devils. Same as Caym?
Mammon   A word misunderstood was personified as the Demon of Avarice.
Mastema   Leader of the offspring of fallen angels by human beings.
Melchom   Treasurer of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Mephistopheles   In some versions, servant of Lucifer, in others, The Devil himself.
Merihim                Prince of Pestilence.
Moloch                Another demon inherited from Jewish belief.
Mullin                Servant of the House of Princes, lieutenant to Leonard.
Murmur                Count of Hell, Demon of Music.
Naburus   Marquis of Hell, connected with Cerberus.
Nergal                Chief of Secret Police of Hell, a second-order demon, married to Allotu.
Nybras                Grand Publicist of the Pleasures of Hell, an inferior demon.
Nysrogh   Chief of the House of Princes of Hell, a second order demon.
Orias                Marquis of Hell, Demon of Diabolic Astrologers and Diviners.
Orthon                A minor demon familiar to the Comte de Corasse and the Comte de Foix. Another personal demon known by name is Sybacco, rather unreliably said to have attended Adriano Lemmi, connected with the alleged Satanic-Masonic cult of Palladinism in 19th century Italy and then there are all sorts of demons (usually with French names) that possessed French nuns, etc.

Paymon     Master of Ceremonies of Hell.
Philotanus   Demon assisting Belial in furthering pederasty and sodomy.
Proserpine   In some accounts, Princess of Hell.
Pyro                Prince of Falsehood.
Raum               Count of Hell, commanding 30 legions of demons.
Rimmon               Ambassador from Hell to (Czarist) Russia, Chief Physician of Hell. Also Damas.
Ronwe               Minor demon commanding 19 legions of devils.
Samael                Angel of Death, Prince of the Air, perhaps the one who tempted Eve.
Semiazas   Chief of the Fallen Angels.
Shabriri                Demon who struck people blind. The Jews also had goat demons (Schirim, Seirim), demon monsters (Behemoth, Leviathan), and Lilim, Nazzikim, Ruchoth, and many more.
Sonneillon   Demon of Hate (Michaelis).
Succorbenoth   Chief Eunuch of the House of Princes, Demon of Gates and Jealousy.
Thamuz                Ambassador of Hell, Creator of The Holy Inquisition, Investor of Artillery.
Ukobach   Stationary Engineer of Hell, Inventor of Fireworks, maybe Cooking Out.
Uphir                Head of the HMO of Hell, Demon physician and apothecary.
Valafar                Grand Duke of Hell 'in charge' say Tondriau and Villeneuve (1972) 'of good relations among brigands.'
Verdelet   Master of Ceremonies of the House of the Princes of Hell.
Verin                Demon of Impatience.
Vetis                A devil who specializes in tempting and corrupting the holy.
Xaphan                Stokes the furnaces of Hell, a second-order demon.
Zaebos                One of the many animal-human combinations in Hebrew imitation of the Sumerians. This one is part crocodile, part human.
Zagam                Demon of Deceit and Counterfeiting. He can do Christ's first miracle, changing water into wine.

http://www.angelfire.com/realm/shades/demons/bookdevilsanddemons/ranksofhell.htm

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Metal / Re: VARG VIKERNES set free from jail
« on: May 30, 2009, 01:55:42 AM »
He's probably long since fed up with crowdists goading him to continue to do all the heavy lifting while they all look on in comfort and safety as if life is best lived vicariously through one's betters.

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Interzone / Re: Can Life Prevail? by Pentti Linkola
« on: May 28, 2009, 04:50:50 AM »
Pentti Linkola is the kind of thinker that surrounds himself with controversy. Commenting on the school massacre that took place in Finland in 2007, Linkola, as always, took the opportunity of flaming the press:

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- The massacre was too small. In the long run it doesn't help shooting some fellow students. What is needed is a larger movement to reduce the population.

http://www.corrupt.org/news/can_life_prevail_by_pentti_linkola

Doesn't look like a bitter statement to me either. That's pragmatism that understands lasting reward following uncomfortable work.

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