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Interzone / Re: Politics converging on the middle
« on: April 26, 2009, 02:25:21 AM »
Some of this convergence is one side adopting its enemy's weapons. All sides are learning one another's and putting these to use in their own interests. Humanists commonly rhetorically dehumanize and physically assault their opponents, in character, but their position statements do not match their actions at all. Ethnonationalists take up anti-war and liberty slogans, which seems consistently genuine by staying cooly neutral toward global affairs to look after one's own.

One side's infectious; a whoring liar and panderer at its core. The other's for honor and fidelity, but in exchange not everyone is invited, so they are cruel only as Nature is cruel and no more. Both sides are now flexible with means and focusing mostly on ends.

Free speech is code for the breaking of the leftist stranglehold on language
Free association breaks the internationalist lock-step.


Objection. Roth grandfathered flamboyant wiggerdom and naught else. Van Halen opened for Black Sabbath's Never Say Die 1978 tour. Dave observed, mimicked and eventually monkeyed-down Ozzy's stage antics. That's where we got hairspray hard rock acts like Great White, Kix, Winger and the rest. They in turn gave "metal" its fun circus (remember Circus magazine in the 80s?) atmosphere that academia has been dismissive toward. If it's rock and roll, it isn't metal.

Interzone / Re: Politics converging on the middle
« on: April 21, 2009, 09:07:29 PM »
Eventually they will have to say "If I am against big business and for environmental control, doesn't that mean I want the government to have more control" and then they are no conservatives at all, but moderate democrats.

No, this is a phony dilemma. Since bureaucratic big central government is always a fossilized failure dragging us all  to the bottom, this is where our own local cultures can step in again by using peer pressure to divide the best way to live, true, from all the diverse wrong ways, falses.

Metal / Re: Mainstream recognizes what sets metal apart
« on: April 20, 2009, 11:55:32 PM »
Maybe metal song structure parallels or contradicts the listener's own brainwaves.

You have a consonant brainwave _||__||__||_ a dissonant song structure ||_||_|| with temporal overlap creating a full constant signal like meshed gears that turn representing time's passage. That's a crude way to explain my point for lack of another way. Why are we throwing away resources helping the permanent hopeless of humanity rather than funding more studies into this subject and unlocking magnificent creations with our findings?


Metal / Re: Metal as anti-humanism/post-Progressive
« on: April 18, 2009, 03:18:38 PM »
Maybe they need to locate the character genetic traits in addtion to the intelligence traits and acknowledge those genes that play roles in both. I don't want transhumanism to result in an army of genius narcissists for a future human race.

Metal / Re: Influences driving the evolution of metal
« on: April 18, 2009, 03:19:21 AM »
There are differences between breaking ground, optimal instance, standard, and emulation. The first two are quality works with the first a pioneer generation and the latter the settlers who come to inhabit. D.R.I. with the crossover era were pioneers for thrash and an optimal instance of punk + metal hybridization. Demilich is an optimal or perfected instance of the already established death metal frontier.

Standard death metal would be other listenable death metal bands who generally seem to "get it".

Emulation are rockers with any combination of growling vocals, lots of rapid percussion clamour, cruel or horrid lyrics and heavy chords. But somehow, you know something is missing with these, like baffled immigrants in an established land, unable to integrate making the place dumb, crude and ugly.

Metal / Re: Metal as anti-humanism/post-Progressive
« on: April 18, 2009, 12:35:00 AM »
I believe in the intellect and in patterns, just like I believe in the world that math symbolically relates to.

It makes sense that the sacredness is with the template rather than every instance of its manifestation. There are after all product defects in manufacture off an otherwise solid blueprint, even recall programs for serious defects which would be like species extinction in this discussion. Come to think of it, even OOP uses an object template from which many instantiations of the same code can be called into memory. But, while RAM gets cleared out and the instances with it, the object template is there to be called into existence as needed again later.

It's kind of like the so-called "problem" of Evil, which is something Christians have an awful time with. When you start thinking in a non-moralistic, non-anthropocentric way though, it's comprehensible how an absolutely benevolent God is also the author of all evil.

It is like having a construction company with a general mission to build things. But, it has a demolition department for removal of corrupted sites.

Metal's role then is to assault corruption (death metal) or stagnation (black metal) of spirit. Rockish entertainment attempts to keep such decay thriving because decline serves as its own nourishment. An uncorrupted civilization would not primarily uphold cheap entertainment/bread and circuses (falling Rome) for the unwashed masses. Meritous excellence would honored instead like during Beethoven and Mozart's time with Europe at its cultural apex for example.

Interzone / Re: Structural realism
« on: April 08, 2009, 04:10:14 PM »
Ratatosk, the search is like a thirst that we cannot entirely quench. We can call it torment and have our leadership declare End of History for the brief illusion of satiation, or we can revel in unending struggle with setbacks and gains, realizing a purposeful living.

Interzone / Re: Structural realism
« on: April 08, 2009, 03:48:49 AM »
We are supposed to be living for the eternal hunt, not for the kill. Not surprisingly, the ancients were on to this secret too. The Celts call it the wild hunt and the Indians refer to a happy hunting grounds. All this end of history and final theory business seems naive at this stage given our own ongoing evolution and the expansion of the universe itself. Changes in future structure put us in error today.

We're stuck or blessed to be living for an endless discovery process with no end point. The best way to manage this is to keep our goals pushed out just beyond our grasp, beyond present possibility, but grow toward them over time, experiencing the pain+gain process. It is the same with executing sets and reps, or what evolving has done for (some of) us.

Interzone / Re: Dreams & Goals
« on: April 03, 2009, 12:37:31 PM »
No apologies for a nicely stated concept. I like your description of the humanist and hipster archetypes and their often symbiotic parasiticism, which is self-serving at its core.

1) Find or become some wretched lot in perpetual failure
2) Find good natured people around you who are productive
3) Accuse 2 of having more than 1
4) Have 2 foot the bill for 1
5) Congratulate self for Helping Humanity
6) Assure 1 remains wretched to keep the game going
7) Accuse 2 of racism or fascism when they don't want to continue playing

I'd like to see a warlord or general round up 1 and put them to work in collective farms or give them rifles and hurl them at enemies as cannon fodder.

Interzone / Re: Is ANUS falling apart?
« on: March 31, 2009, 08:44:34 PM »
Reasoning and rationalizing seem to be two different processes. Rationalizing tempts us with the easiest or most convenient, short-term solution, i.e. Cableguy's "get 'er done". Reasoning is similar in that it also has a logical flow, but it allows for optional inputs, various processing subroutines and multiple possible outcomes in order to find the best path. The two terms are not properly synonymous.

Interzone / Re: Is ANUS falling apart?
« on: March 31, 2009, 04:45:36 PM »
evil/stupidity is everpresent and always disguises itself in innocuous or flattering/pandering forms

English nationalist Tolkien warned us about this.

Although Sauron long knew than Men were easier to sway, he long sought to bring the Elves into his service as they had more power So after the War of Wrath Sauron decided that the Valar had forgotten about Middle-earth and he once again turned to evil. [1]

After lying hidden and increasing his power in secret, Sauron put on a fair visage, and calling himself Annatar, the Lord of Gifts, and in S.A. 1200 he befriended the Elvish smiths of Eregion, and counselled them in arts and magic.[2] He never came to Lindon as Elrond and Gil-galad did not trust him and refused to treat with him, although they never realised who he truly was; elsewhere he was gladly received, especially in Eregion where the Elvish smiths learned much from him as their thirst for knowledge was great.[3]

Under Sauron's tutelage the Gwaith-i-Mírdain, under the leadership of Celebrimbor, grandson of Fëanor, became more skilled than anyone else, save for Fëanor himself. In the year 1500, when they reached the very height of their power, the Elves began the forging of the Rings of Power, but Sauron knew all their secrets and in 1600 - ten years after the completion of the Rings of Power - Sauron created The One Ring to control the bearers of the other Rings.[2]

But the Elves were not so easily ensnared, and as soon as Sauron put on the One Ring they and Celebrimbor were aware of him and realised they were betrayed.[3] They hid their Rings from Sauron and did not use them, but Sauron demanded that the other Rings be given to him for they would not have been without him knowledge: the Elves refused and the War of the Elves and Sauron followed.[1]


Interzone / Re: Most smart people render themselves ineffective
« on: March 28, 2009, 08:30:53 PM »
how would we begin this process of 'smartening' the world? what sort of activism would promote this?

With an easily replicated system. Its instruments detect amount of brainwave activity in select regions over a few days, then determines if the subject is a pass or no go. No gos get a mysterious aneurism. Analysis and delivery system could be some kind of nanotech that spreads between people and replicates itself like a common cold or flu virus.

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