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Interzone / Re: Postmodern Americanism ethos is humanist mythos
« on: March 17, 2009, 08:49:36 PM »
Wealth and technology, that symbiotic pair, have enabled us the luxury to pursue atomized wants. Life is no longer sheer survival each hour on a frozen landscape during an ice age. History between the opulence and desperate subsistence states gives many examples, or possible ways that civilizations were oriented toward other than personal wants and urgent need. Things greater than humanity are that which humanity did not create and cannot control, yet must experience, even to marvel at for inspiration or adapt to for growth in evolution and wisdom. The changing seasons and weather, celestial objects, the passage of time and death, natural beauty and life, are some things greater than humanity.

It seems that past societies made eternal things gods or God, placing them above humanity and according these powers reverence in local customs as befit diverse, separated cultures. Now, for those not utterly lost to modernity, we are reduced to admiring the sagas, the architecture, the sculptures, the valuable lessons, produced by those who came before, because they, unlike us, were awed and inspired by eternal things bigger than humans. We are stagnant and decaying and it shows. Affordable iPods, decades of free time before the TV and the right to vote for legalized gay sex in public parks is not worth the price of the loss of our collective awe toward great eternal things and the resulting strengthening our bodies, minds and cultures undertook as a result.

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Interzone / Re: The British and war
« on: March 15, 2009, 11:33:50 PM »
American soldiers do it different. The officers and NCOs will get steaming mad, barking and insisting in the midst of battle. The British and Americans, respectively, had and have two different styles of morale management for combat in particular. The British wished to appear calm so the men's morale would not break. The American leadership wants to appear more dangerous to the fighting men than the enemy ahead, which is a push method.

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Metal / Re: Listen to new GRAVELAND material 08/09
« on: March 13, 2009, 01:26:21 PM »
Fire Chariot and Atlantean Monument were pivotal moments, like taking an army on a victorious conquest. He does seem to be casting about, as if asking, "where next to conquer?"

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Interzone / Metal-spirited nationalists in history
« on: March 12, 2009, 02:08:36 AM »
The Legion of Romania was founded by Corneliu Zelea Codreanu in 1927. In 1930, the Iron Guard was formed as a paramilitary wing of the Legion. In 1935 the Legion was renamed Everything for the Country, sometimes translated Everything for Fatherland or Motherland.

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The movement's leader, Corneliu Zelea Codreanu, was a religious mystic who aimed at a spiritual resurrection for the nation. [2] According to Codreanu's heterodox philosophy, human life was a sinful, violent political war, which would ultimately be transcended by the spiritual nation. In this schema, the Legionnaire might have to perform fanatical and violent actions that would condemn him to damnation- which was considered the ultimate sacrifice for the nation![2] In addition to its regenerative nationalism and heretical-Christian doctrines, the Legion promulgated a biological conception of the Romanian nation.[2] Like many fascist movements, the Legion called for a revolutionary "new man". As for economics, there was no straightforward program, but the Legion generally promoted the idea of a communal or national economy, rejecting capitalism as overly materialistic.[2] The movement considered its main enemies to be present political leaders and the Jews.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_Guard

Post WWI Romania probably saw itself fated to become a rural backwater anachronism amidst an industrializing Europe that was adopting modern warfare capability. So, its leadership decided to whore its land and people to internationalists and bankers; our forever wandering global mercantile caste. The result, like in so many nations, was the rise of a nationalist, "For Our Land and People" type party with a violent paramilitary wing. It is interesting that the Iron Guard incorporated mysticism drawn from "heretical" modifications of Orthodox Christianity.

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The mysticism of the Legion led to a cult of death, martyrdom, violence, and self-sacrifice. Its action squads were called echipa morţii, or "death squads".[2] A chapter of the Legion was called a cuib, or "nest," and was arranged around the virtues of discipline, work, silence, education, mutual, aid, and honor. These groups observed rituals that included writing oaths in blood and drinking blood.[2]

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Interzone / Re: Postmodern Americanism ethos is humanist mythos
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:59:35 PM »
You're overreacting.

1) I did not deny that Jefferson's best intentions were only aimed at the European colonial stock and their posterity.
2) I did not state anything about uncorrupted British aristocracy of the time. You're beating that strawman all by yourself.

So, the spirit or intent of the words of the angry rebels has been twisted into new laws to serve modern interests. Dr. Sunic's book's thesis is as follows: The genealogy of early Calvinist Puritanism mixed with the techno-scientific religion of boundless economic progress and legally veiled in the obscure para-Biblical and Jewish-inspired sense of political self-chosenness, created a system that has little in common with its original design.

Nonetheless, I disagree with Jefferson's Judeo-Christian belief in the Creation of Equal English colonials because it is false, because it is anything but self-evident then as now. Why? Because the evidence indicates we evolved, not that we were created and furthermore there is no metric by which we can demonstrate the universal equality of any or all men; not height, not weight, not intelligence, not character, not fitness, not anything. There is nothing but legislation upon blind faith contra all real facts we have been able to access and the resulting disorganization this myth-ethos causes.

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Interzone / Postmodern Americanism ethos is humanist mythos
« on: February 27, 2009, 05:38:04 AM »
Belief in the sacrosanctity of the human animal finds its origins in the US Declaration of Independence, where Thomas Jefferson, defiant toward the pre-modern Divine Right of Kings belief writes, "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness."

This statement and why Jefferson made it (angry rebel) is key to understanding postmodern Americanism, the faith-based anticulture movement that has swallowed Western Europe and Australia and threatens nations of the Asian Pacific Rim (Japan, Taiwan, South Korea) with its dissolution into historic-hereditary-cultural mediocrity.

Secular humanism, it can be reasonbly argued, is the official state religion of the Western Hemisphere and its close trading partners beyond. It is a religion because its adherents have agreed to set aside fact in favor of myth so that the institution's (the human animal is the center of the universe, or, anthrocentricism) ethos, or civilizational moral foundation, as a whole, may retain integrity, or at minimum, the illusion thereof.

What's needed is a sane foundational replacement for modern civilization, one that isn't mired in the error of an endless self-referential loop, but like those great civilizations of old, and those of the future, sets its sights beyond itself (liberal democracy) or its component parts (human animals).

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Interzone / Re: Archaic video games
« on: February 14, 2009, 11:46:37 PM »
See how far back video games and their controversy goes. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_Race_(1976_game)

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Shopenhauer, in reference to our seeking mates, posited an opposites attract theory. He claimed, as our mocha-race enthusiast interpreters in academia proffer, that we look for a mate that will cancel out our own shortcomings, or fill in the genetic gaps, resulting in more perfected offspring. He cited different colored races interbreeding for an example. It seems to me that Shopenhauer and Nietzsche were exploring (or dangerously experimenting with) Europe's ongoing, but now completely defunct Africa colonization of the time and the possibilities that would unfold in the proximate racial nexus therein.

Well, if these men were correct, using as a standard the former NSDAP Germans and German-Americans (purebreeds lacking diversity, thus having genetic gaps) who launched mankind from terra-firma to moon in about a decade's planning, we should expect our own American hybrid leader, possible Overman according to Nietzsche, definite Overman by popular global consensus, to spawn us a colony or two and a terraforming project on Mars.

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Metal / Re: Metal Maniacs and Metal Edge magazines to shut down
« on: February 04, 2009, 08:31:35 PM »
I last saw one of those magazines when they mostly featured Ozzy, Priest, Maiden, Dio. The popular appeal formula is supposed to work for selling low quality in bulk to innumerable consumers, provided each has extra disposable income. Take away the spare cash from each and the formula clearly fails. They should have instead made a magazine of such quality that people in tough economic times would beg, kill and steal to have a little cash for the latest issue.

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Interzone / Re: A return to 1815 is the way forward for Europe
« on: February 04, 2009, 12:26:46 AM »
Let's be realistic. Once major "progress" is made in society, particularly in terms of technology, it's next to impossible to go back. When agriculture came and spread around the Middle East and Europe originally, NO ONE ever went back to hunting and gathering. A "return" to 1815 is absurd in every sense.

Ancient Greece went through a period of literacy, became illiterate during its dark age then again returned to literacy and high culture. Food production isn't really very analagous to a social-political restructuring. Likewise, I wouldn't state that the proliferation of automobiles means bicycling or walking could never become more common than driving cars in man's future.

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The first two phrases in the quote are explicit. Nietzsche clearly refers to biological heritage, stating his meaning as someone would from a couple centuries before or after the 19th. He goes on to explain that a mixed race person is very likely to be an underman type, the Epicurean or the Christian seeking soothing of the inner conflict brought on by conflicting heritage. But, he also says that from among such a demographic, a tiny minority have the potential to harness that inner conflict, turning it into greatness. He is talking about overman and underman in a larger sense, but gives our potential query, "but what about mixed race people?" a place within that larger context. I'm sure he does so with other specific demographics or social strata like the aristocracy or the working class.

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Metal / Re: Hipsters are destroying metal
« on: January 31, 2009, 03:20:01 PM »
Hipsters are just another recurring personality type forever issuing from the human genome and manifesting as bothersome oversocializers. The problem is the modern assumption that anyone can be anything in society. Sure, they can, but how effective is such wanton liberty on the whole in the long run? Should our civilizations and cultures always be lead by the hipster type worming its way into and eventually dominating/crowding roles that to the hipster are the most popular-seeming, but to the rest of us are much more vital, like CEO, board chairman, general, senator, judge, archpriest or university president - leaders and shapers of the present and future? Probably not.

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ESFP

People-oriented and fun-loving, they make things more fun for others by their enjoyment. Living for the moment, they love new experiences. They dislike theory and impersonal analysis. Interested in serving others. Likely to be the center of attention in social situations. Well-developed common sense and practical ability.

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ENFJ

Popular and sensitive, with outstanding people skills. Externally focused, with real concern for how others think and feel. Usually dislike being alone. They see everything from the human angle, and dislike impersonal analysis. Very effective at managing people issues, and leading group discussions. Interested in serving others, and probably place the needs of others over their own needs.

http://www.personalitypage.com/high-level.html

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Metal / Re: Blackmetal and Failure
« on: January 20, 2009, 06:27:06 PM »
Where does one set the balance?

I don't know about balance, but there is a need for standards, to which personal taste needs to be set aside. For what does it tells us about someone having below standard tastes?

Setting standards requires the judgement of qualified leadership. But no less difficult is established consensus, meaning people who know we are not all equal will need to put aside some of their individualism impulses and defer to the most learned who have been around metal music for a long time.

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Interzone / Re: Literature for the remnant
« on: January 19, 2009, 10:22:28 PM »
Sometimes I get the uneasiness felt by Donald Sutherland's character during the last half of Invasion of the Bodysnatchers, or like Roddy Piper's character in They Live. But then I find others in everyday life are outsiders to some extent and few are fully immersed. It is as if society as it is has begun to take on a life of its own and the people within are hapless cogs experiencing the stresses of torque and friction, to lesser or greater extent, as the system grinds along its downward course.

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Interzone / Re: How to get ANUS publically accepted
« on: January 17, 2009, 07:14:25 PM »
I found out, hilariously, that many places list us as a HATE SITE for the Altar of Unholy Blasphemy.

I looked into this and found some outside opinions.

valid concern:
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Is this stuff really for anything or just against something.
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If a person really wants to know what is wrong with today's Christian Church and leadership, ask a Church Leader.

http://current.com/items/89177676/the_altar_of_unholy_blasphemy_the_complaint_against_jehovah_the_judeo_christian_deity.htm

What? Ask church leadership what is wrong with themselves because they know their system better than anyone. Why then do they fail to act? Maybe church leadership is satisfied and complacent; I.E. they're fine, in their view. Hypothesis: they shirk taking responsibility for leadership and their own system's failure by blaming the devil, worldly people, heavy metal etc. I.E. in denial.

garbled site review:
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The Altar of Unholy Blasphemy uses apostate technologies and blasphemy to destroy Judeo-Christian moralism and judgmentalism, favoring transcendental blasphemy with unrepentant apostasy as the fist of Satanism as violent heresy in the face of insane religions dominating the world with their weakness.

http://www.einet.net/review/48775-624574/Altar_of_Unholy_Blasphemy_Heretical_Degradation_of_The_Christian_Lord_From_the_Feral_Will_of.htm

Perhaps this is what happened with metal as well. Most people don't "get it", or only clearly perceive the parts that are not garbled by the personal interpretive layers they cling to. The drive for broad exposure might then work best by thinking of a trawler at sea. You cast a large net knowing that most of the catch will need to be thrown out / ignored, but keep / speak to only the best few within the mass.

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