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Metal / Re: What would a metal society look like?
« on: January 16, 2007, 04:18:58 PM »
A band of savages given a portion of the island such that one day our society could make war on them.

Goodly amount of war paint to don while hunting game and savages.

This part I like. Except I would replace savages with reality show guests and crowds of other tourists from affluent societies. They can bring modern firearms and the Hessians will use blades or 17th century muzzle loaders to even the odds.

Metal / Re: Metal = Power
« on: November 30, 2006, 05:22:30 PM »
I always thought it was interesting that metal is defined by time.  Black Sabbath is the heaviest band of it's time, but if that music came out now, no one would even call it metal.  It would be stoner rock or something, even if it was exactly the same music.

I was just listening to Live Evil a couple nights ago and it is a heavy metal album, even with comparison to metal albums of today. It also occured to me that Dio had begun using what we might now identify as death metal vocals during that live album tour, possibly before. I'm pretty sure there was a thread on here about death metal vocals somewhere and where these started. Dio may be the answer.

Metal / Re: Why did punk die?
« on: November 04, 2006, 03:14:22 PM »
You speak about metal on this board as though it has a real strand of rebellion running through it. Don't make me laugh.

Metal was always more than rebellion. Why is rebellion considered some sort of noble goal? This is the activity of a peasant rabble, not intelligent visionaries who have a better way in mind.

Marches such as 'stop the city', squatting and political discussion were prevalent leading to a strong counterculture.

Yes, effectively this punk evolution was the 1960s hippie counterculture version 2. Metal offered more than only screaming about problems. Metal showed listeners another way. Punk never did this.

Metal / Re: Hessianism promoted/ attacked
« on: October 31, 2006, 10:27:31 PM »
Nice catch.

I like metal, but I`ve never revered it to the point of deluding myself into thinking it the savior of modern civilization.

People are reading "saviour of modern society" into this all by themselves, like a psychiatric patient absorbed in his own hallucination episode. The values page makes no such statement. Rather, modern society is a hopeless destructive juggernaut and when the wreckage finally hits bottom, we do not need another modern society to take its place, but rather, something healthier that is already established.

Now back to listening to my Clan of Xymox and Qntal.....


Metal / Re: Prozak's friend makes the 'news'
« on: October 15, 2006, 11:43:49 PM »
where did you get this information, because Ive watched and read a couple brief overviews of the religion, and It sounds to me like youre confusing the actual religion with the extremist spinoff beliefs.

You might try Western history for one, following that, understand that the Saudis have enough political clout to influence public perception to distribute many of those brief overviews about the actual religion to the public for their own benefit. Of course their enemies have even more public influence, having demonized muslims for decades. It is probably best to step away from all this and acknowledge that both sides are historically bringers of ruin wherever the two come into contact.

Metal / Re: How to change consumer society
« on: October 08, 2006, 02:06:48 AM »
Hold on, good things never last
Nothing's in the past, it always seems to come again
Again and again and again

Black Sabbath, Heaven and Hell, Neon Knights

Metal / Re: How to change consumer society
« on: October 08, 2006, 02:03:15 AM »
The mediocre now have access to the means of creation to some extent: changes through voting, web pages and blogging, making garbage entertainment, home "improvements" and much more. The broad accessibility came about because politicians or industries (the gatekeepers between crowd and finer things) in competition with one another sought greater quantity for popular support and profit. Most people didn't know about any internet in the early 90s. Someone in-the-know with access to the business and internet industries decided to get the crowd involved. Same thing happened with formerly underground metal: few knew about UM in the beginning (approximately mid to late 80s) then someone opened the gates to let the crowd in.

Metal / Re: Speed/Thrash metal
« on: October 07, 2006, 01:01:12 PM »
Well, if 99% of people agree with me, then is it me who is the moron?

Everyone witness a fine example of the argumentum ad populum fallacy.  ;)

Metal / Re: How to change consumer society
« on: October 06, 2006, 12:09:21 AM »
I'm not seeing much of a problem with a little power for homes, schools and small businesses. Petroleum is essential for heavy cargo transit, agriculture harvest tractors and excavation rigs and heavy machine industries. The necessary torque can't come from a little trickle current from sustainable bio or solar power; compare a cordless drill with a drill plugged in the wall for an example. Our society is driven by mass quantities and rapid lateral overdevelopment. It's unecessarily heavy, stupidly inefficient and badly designed for our time due to the limitations that existed in the past.

Metal / Re: How to change consumer society
« on: October 05, 2006, 12:50:47 PM »
You still have industrial society with abundant coal mines. Add another ice age with north and south hemispheres blanketed in frost. That would shut down abundant harvests, mass transit and communications.

Metal / Re: The history of metal's opposition to Christian
« on: October 04, 2006, 03:27:11 PM »
Judas Priest began mocking christ in the mid 70s. The song Starbreaker was one of the first.

Metal / Misplaced guitar leads
« on: October 03, 2006, 12:29:52 PM »
Guitar Leads shows you how to play all those 'way cool' playing tricks to make you sound like Hendrix or Satriani plus those wild visual antics used by famous musicians on stage.

Imagine how popular you will be with those "tricks" up your sleeve.

Guitar leads best fit a composition as an essential, necessary element within the overall narrative. Misplaced solos interrupt the narrative like a clown showing up at an otherwise elegant royal ballroom dance. Bad leads prompt Hessians to wince and reach for the volume controls, or worst case, the off button.

Outstanding metal narrative exists without guitar solos. Burzum and Graveland offer us examples of mostly leadless composition while retaining captivating narrative. However, examples of appropriate leads also exist. The earlier half of Slayer's legacy of albums illustrates appropriately integrated essential leads within the overall narrative; the duo solo narrative architecture is additionally found in the earlier works of Judas Priest, a heavy metal band that influenced Slayer.

In conclusion, compositional elements like guitar solos can act as misplaced pollutants, unwanted guests, or impudent children among speaking adults. "Way cool playing tricks" sacrifice the whole for the ego of one and this error must be supressed for metal, as a higher form of art, to flourish.

Metal / Re: Crustcore and Hardcore Punk
« on: September 26, 2006, 12:38:29 AM »

A fine compilation. Noteworthy:

The Mad
Even Worse

Metal / Re: Hessian Meetings
« on: September 25, 2006, 02:50:14 PM »

1) increased spam mail due to spiders - we can try and disguise them. Gmail has a fairly good spam filter.

This is no more of a problem than email for members on this message board. The solution is to not list email data, but to have a "contact this person" feature with a server side script handling the input and SMTP to recipient.

Metal / Re: Prozak's friend makes the 'news'
« on: September 18, 2006, 04:16:53 PM »
No. The Islam is a religion of peace.

Agreed, but it must meet some conditions before attaining peace:

1) All non-muslims in the world converted or slain
2) Non-conformists and women killed if they get out of line

Then the world will have peace. Christianity promises a similar future, but in either case, existence would be a very noticeable form of social imprisonment.

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