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Metal / Re: Crustcore and Hardcore Punk
« on: September 25, 2006, 12:56:12 AM »
I second the Doom mention, and am currently upping their releases for the audiofile section.

Could never get warm with much hardcore punk, though. Maybe something will come out of this thread.

Audiofile / Nuclear Death
« on: September 12, 2006, 03:57:01 AM »
Nuclear Death
Nuclear Death MP3s

"One of the most minimal and extreme death/thrash bands, Nuclear Death influenced generations after with their sparse riffwriting and song shaping."

Nuclear Death - Bride of Insect (1990)

Nuclear Death - Bride of Insect (1990, Mega)

Nuclear Death - Carrion for Worm (1991)

Nuclear Death - Carrion for Worm (1991, Mega)

Metal / Re: Most Metal Books Ever
« on: August 29, 2006, 11:57:07 AM »
Conrad's Heart of Darkness

Metal / Re: Crust Punk
« on: July 24, 2006, 07:33:25 AM »

Metal / Re: Art Vs. Entertainment
« on: July 23, 2006, 06:25:04 AM »
id say the chicken coz otherwise the egg would have no parent to help it survive and the entire speicies would die out, same thing with art vs Entertainment, if there was no Entertainment art would not be popular and so wood not be explored by many and would proberly die out

The questions is stupid. Of course the first chicken egg came before the first chicken. Where else should the first chicken have come from? That the egg's parents were no chickens isn't a problem here, that's how it is always in nature.

As for the original question: There is no difference between art and entertainment.

Metal / Re: Thrash
« on: July 17, 2006, 12:55:48 AM »
Just, why should one treat the "Thrash Metal case" any different than the Death or Black metal one:

Metal / Re: Explaining death and the afterlife to children
« on: June 18, 2006, 06:29:05 AM »
Just tell them theyll go to heaven.

Theyll find out more once they are old enough. And if not, no biggie.

Metal / Re: Improving the sound quality of old metal album
« on: June 12, 2006, 03:47:55 AM »
This is lol. If you want a good sound, use a stereo and not a fucken computer.

Metal / Re: Useless metal genres
« on: May 31, 2006, 10:54:41 PM »
Id somewhat agree, that idea is nothing new.

- you just said "that most power metal exists because black and death metal are out of ideas". I agree that power metal is useless, but your reasoning... well...
- Industrial metal: how do you define that? Metal actually incorporating industrial elements? (thats nothing inherently bad at all - the mixing of styles has often provided worthwile bands) Or do you mean "Industrial black metal" and the like, which actually is useless, with the exception of Mysticum...
- also the re-incorporating of heavy metal into extreme styles isnt necessarily a bad thing to do, see rotting christ or dissection for examples.
- last but not least: Theres tons and tons of junk even in the "well established" genres, in most "genres" you mentioned i could think of a few bands that are worthwhile, so wheres the difference?

Conclusion: Most metal is useless, as is this topic...

Metal / Re: Doom
« on: May 31, 2006, 07:54:06 PM »
Well fair enough; it wasnt meant as an insult/criticism or anything, it wasnt even meant in regard to your post specifically, but just as a general observation that struck me once more...

The point is, I'd use that word as well in conjunction with music/arts, albeit I wouldnt use it related to technical aspects, but rather referring to content. In my eyes there is no need to break any genre boundaries to achieve trascendence. However, the concept of anything transcending something doesnt seem to make much sense from a nihilist's point of view...

Metal / Re: Doom
« on: May 31, 2006, 07:21:28 PM »

Doom metal bands should listen to Burzum (Dunkelheit) and Beholding the Daughters of the Firmament to feel a deeper, more transcendent sadness. Absolutely nothing I've ever heard comes close to the sadness present in those two songs especially.

I find it funny that the place I come across the word "transcendence" the most is a so called nihilist society. Way to go.

On the topic, the only doom bands I really like are Winter and Thergothon. Stabat Mater as well, even tho I find the musical concept to be a bit different, put aside the slowness.

Lastly, Im wondering why you all connect doom metal to sadness; I'd rather say it comes quite close  to Burke description of the sublime.

Metal / Re: Technology and Metalheads
« on: April 18, 2006, 12:45:50 PM »
it's boosted the number of bedroom bands, period, no mater what genre but yes, the rise of even the black/extreme metal ones alarming.

I doubt that; there's always been bedroom bands, the difference is that now their releases are accessible to the public by a couple of clicks. But that where the power of the consumer comes in: you are very much free to not make these clicks, and given that, I don't see how it could be negative.

Metal / Re: Technology and Metalheads
« on: April 18, 2006, 07:08:47 AM »
Isn't everybody whining about the downsides of technology basically just admitting that he lacks the selfcontrol to use it properly?

Metal / Re: Artists/works needing reviews
« on: April 18, 2006, 06:46:43 AM »

Actually, for the art portions of the site, we are not concerned with politics at all.

You'll find no Angry Aryans or AK-47 reviews, but that's for musical reasons -- relevance being the prime factor.

This is not from a desire to be inclusive, but when talking art, one must stay focused on art and let all other factors go to hell.

When talking politics, one must remember that art is a sensual and not exclusively logical medium, and thus many of one's favorite artists (listening to Napalm Death "F.E.D." today) are to be appreciated for their art/aesthetics but not their conclusions.

For example, I like "The Catcher in the Rye" but I don't agree with Salinger politically; I think he does a good job of pointing out where society is nutty, although for a better description I read Kaczynski or Huntington.

Note that I did mean what I said in a way, however there was a little ;) to it.

I was aware of what you answered, I guess I did not express myself properly...

When I said "he" and "politics" I did not aim at Mikko himself and his political views but rather the "message" expressed through his music. Which is, at least the way I perceive it, that not "society" or anything of that sort is what has gone wrong, but rather that the human mind itself is sick, perverted twisted. Given that, the music does not call for activity to change that and but invites the listener to watch humanity, laugh about it, enjoy the sickness and so on.

That's what I think goes against the "politics" here and is the reason why I doubt that CB or SM will be reviewed (or even understood?) here ;)

Oh, and on the main topic: I know neither the band itself nor the American "speed" metal movement as a whole too well, but it seems striking to me that Flotsam and Jetsam aren't mentioned...

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