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Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: March 30, 2014, 09:58:15 PM »
It's a great way to relax while also allowing creativity to flow!

Or is that sex?

I dunno.

Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: March 30, 2014, 09:50:44 PM »
Here's the link to my youtube propaganda page. Going to use it to upload good music and cause problems: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmMyf4BBMEbeK3SwvLyKZiQ

Additionally, I've uploaded two new compositions. Listen if you want to:

Synth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ISI0_SsJ_o
Metal: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wrJBKFSfWZE

If you think it's good, good. If you think it's terrible, please post incoherent profanity-laced ranting.

I enjoy that.

Interzone / Re: Memories of Morocco.
« on: March 30, 2014, 09:46:53 PM »
How do you know that a guidebook is a good one and not one writen by an ignorant?

Well, know he knows it was correct about that road.

Interzone / Re: What is conservatism?
« on: March 30, 2014, 05:54:55 PM »
The largest stumbling block for moderns is probably point 2:

But if there's social standards, that means I can't get wasted and run through the street naked. That's not variety!

No graffiti? But that's my artistic expression man! Don't you like diversity?

You're against democracy? Then how will I vote for a transgendered-homosexual-feminist-walrus? Don't you be restrictive!

What we gain by losing all that garbage:

1. A more aesthetically pleasing civilization

2. Individuality is strengthened by allowing each to reach their heights of glory within a civilized structure. I'm sure drug slum individuals are very "unique"; but if you pack 1,000 unique characters into a city and let them run wild, you don't output a very attractive civilization. And all end up looking the same.

Interzone / Re: Deep Ecology is bullshit
« on: March 30, 2014, 04:58:18 PM »
My questions for the deep ecologists here:
- As long as civilization prevails, why should we give a damn about the continuation of any plant or animal species?
- To those who point to the beauty of nature in its defense, what does it really have to offer that Virtual Reality won't eventually be able to match or surpass?

To the first; your question assumes from the start that you care about preserving a specific animal species (homo sapiens). To do this, you will need some number of plant and animal species around - for consumption and to offset carbon/etc. But, this only takes us to the point that exists more or less now: factory farming and a few trees here and there, as long as they don't interfere with someone's view.

Why should one care about nature more than civilization?

I am inclined to say that if one doesn't, one doesn't, and that's it...but: it would be a distinct tragedy for all life to be reduced to a profit/loss great Coca-Cola Culture arrangement. It uplifts the...(I am trying to avoid using the word "soul" here) mind/body relationship to consider oneself as a part within nature rather than an external parasite imposed upon it. If we would realize this, we could preserve nature and a quality civilization, simultaneously.

crow answered the second part well.

Interzone / Re: Deep Ecology is bullshit
« on: March 29, 2014, 06:19:43 PM »
And the OP didn't even mention Kaczynski's main point, which was that the modern technological state is so inherently destructive and unstable that as soon as it starts falling apart, the whole global system would follow; because it relies on an international factory creation of items that cannot be replicated on a local level.

Metal / Re: Ildjarn bandcamp
« on: March 11, 2014, 08:52:40 PM »
In a post on his youtube page, he wrote that he made both of them (svart dag and eksistenses jeger).

Metal / Re: Ildjarn Split was written by Nidhogg
« on: March 11, 2014, 10:42:56 AM »
Thank you for responding, NiDHOGG. Both you and Ildjarn are held in high regard around here.

It seemed likely that when recordings re-surface after 20 years, it's difficult to retain information about them. Perhaps Ildjarn didn't realize who had conceived the work or there was a a problem with Osmose's understanding of the situation.

Either way, it's good to hear that work and the demos you posted on youtube. It is appreciated by this community. 

Interzone / Re: Why?
« on: March 11, 2014, 04:22:27 AM »
There is a difference between physical experience and intellectual information, but is it as strong as has been suggested?

All perception is a gamble in a way; our experience of reality is filtered by the sensations screened by our nervous system and organized in our brain. It may be that there is always a gap between "that which is" and "that which can perceive it". Humans are notorious for creating errors in any number of ways in this process. Having an "experience of something" does not mean that "something' actually exists, but there is extreme difficulty in convincing some people of that.

In regards to words conveying knowledge: it may be that they can't provide the experience, but they can enable one to have it: if i have no idea how to fix my snowblower and I look online at guides which explain how to do it, and then I do it, I am putting into practice something which works and did not originate with myself.

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 11, 2014, 04:11:32 AM »
Yes, it amazes me too, that you can be so - whatever it is - so seamlessly.
Understand this:
03-04 is the star of the show. Bar none. He is the reason this forum exists. He knows more than all of us put together. Take my word for it, since you seem unable to recognize it.
So when he does a fly-by and drops a few gems, the last thing I am going to allow is anybody - anybody - to take cheap shots at him.

Since I'm evidently teetering to the edge of being added to the pile, I'll ask you your question:

What is it that you think I add to the forum? Earlier this month, you were praising me and now you say I don't know jack shit about anything. Which one is it?

In regards to 03-04, fine. If the admins wish that to be the policy, I will follow it out of respect for them.

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 11, 2014, 03:37:01 AM »
Do you realize that in the space of 2 weeks you went from lauding my understanding to implying I have none?

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 11, 2014, 03:25:37 AM »
I am going to react to anyone who chooses to waltz in and declare that his understanding of "God" is the only correct one possible, and other interpretations are not only false, but a sin.

You yourself claimed recently that God and Satan were metaphors.

He knows something you clearly don't, Wild.

Yeah, and so does Bruce Charlton.

Interzone / Re: Why?
« on: March 11, 2014, 03:18:24 AM »
How is any experience not an abstraction?

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 11, 2014, 02:53:15 AM »
God cannot be 'redefined'. God cannot be a 'metaphor'.

What, are you now going to assert an objective existence of God while simultaneously voiding human linguistic experience?

This statement is absurd.

There's only one sin, really: Thinking that God is otherwise. Thinking that God is somehow capable of being changed by what we may think of him/it.

Sin? Oh dear, it's time for confession.  :-[

Anyways, that which is described by words does not change as the words do; the map is not the territory; the menu is not the meal; this has been made clear many times before...however, in context with my conversations with various people on here it occasionally seems that "God" is a synonym for "reverence towards understanding the structure of reality" - hence my question as to why the term is used.

If you have another understanding, please provide it.

Bear in mind that thinking about God doesn't changed this one way or the other. One can live a perfect life in accordance with his will, without ever having even heard of the word 'God'.

Get behind me, Jesus.

Interzone / Re: What does it mean?
« on: March 10, 2014, 04:23:48 AM »
You get my point. I'm not trying to argue for a reason to anthropomorphize the universal mechanisms that keep everything the way it is necessarily. I'm just trying to draw a parallel between that immutable set of universal mechanicis and the traditional notion of God. You understand what I'm saying already.

I don't understand - you seem to be saying that there is nothing outside of the structure of that which exists. This is complete blasphemy in relation to the Western traditional notion of God for the last 1500 years.

If "God" is simply a metaphor used by you to denote your observation of universal lavs, why not drop "God" and simply state that you observe universal laws?

I do not understand at all why people feel the urge to redefine "God" into something they can be comfortable with. If one is to use it only as a metaphor, its only achievement is to make conversations needlessly murky.

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