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Metal / Re: Harsh Anus.com review on Veles 'The Black Ravens flew again'
« on: November 04, 2013, 06:33:57 PM »
Music reviews are reviews of music, not an individuals integrity, personality, work ethic or any number of things. If the music doesnt hold up, it doesnt hold up.

Metal / Re: Industrial/EBM
« on: November 03, 2013, 12:17:12 PM »
Thanks for these links aquarius, I basically ignored Ice Ages but I am going to have to check them out now. Did not expect to hear Summoning in there.

Metal / Re: Immortal's "Pure Holocaust" is 20 years old today
« on: November 01, 2013, 05:59:59 PM »
One of the best and one of my favourite Immortal albums, immortalized in the excellent review posted above. Lets celebrate with some classics:


Eternal hails to this great band. Now sadly, beyond the pale, but we will never forget this album.

I believe in tragedies, I believe in desecration!

Metal / Re: anus.com top 15 death metal albums torrent!
« on: November 01, 2013, 05:10:59 PM »
I would strongly disagree with that. The Necrophobic debut is a very strong, very musical album with excellent songs and the excellent melodicity Blackmoon (RIP sweet prince :( ) brings. Plus it functions as a very cohesive album. From Wisdom is a whole step down from that, it is at best an okay work, but compared to the rest of the stuff that was released around that time period it is really good. Sort of like taking Obscura and using it to make ordinary modern-ish metal.

Though I have to say I did ignore The Nocturnal Silence for a while because it sounded ordinary and generic, but those are all superficial aspects.

Interzone / Re: Who attends this forum?
« on: November 01, 2013, 11:30:30 AM »

What about the black metal albums?

Metal / Re: Goatcraft review on Invisible Hipstoranges
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:21:05 PM »
Props on all the hard work this guy does taking his music around but I really wish instead of live shows he would lock himself in a basement with some inspirational music and emerge with an epic, narrative album.

Interzone / Re: Who attends this forum?
« on: October 31, 2013, 07:03:58 PM »
While not addressed to me fenrir, let me attempt to answer. I must say I admire your honesty about pride.

Let me ask you something, do you feel proud of your "preferring quality music"?

Perhaps if we delve deep enough, there may be a bit of pride attached, but it is more about being true to metal music than being a special listener. There just isnt that much to be proud of here, this is not something inaccessible to people and this site exists to make it accessible. Stronger feelings would be a bit of frustration that you cant just explain to people how to listen to music after they have been trained to be passive and attend only to each moment rather than follow a progression (in simpler terms `hear riffs`).

Haven't many people in this forum constantly expressed themselves as superior to others because of it?

No, at least I certainly hope not, but this is the impression a lot of people get. Why? Because you cant really be impersonal about something you care about and when you call the music people care about shit they FEEL (not think) its personal.

We may be trying really hard to choose quality music, and as far as the standard we think we follow this may be true, but what makes you so sure this is so?

I dont particularly understand your thrust here. The music, when studied, has certain objective standards. These are all interpreted subjectively because we dont have any objective measure, but you can still approximate them. Furthermore, the ultimate measure of quality of music is, like any art, the potency of what it evokes. Some metal (and some other music) takes you, once deciphered, to heights unmatched.

It is arrogant because to some point you may be wrong, you just think you are choosing the correct thing.   Many times, I'm sure this is the case.

This is not right and is the result of a relativistic outlook and lack of conviction. It is a manifestation of your own doubt. What I listen to convinces me, if there is room for second thoughts then I have not been convinced. Why should you possibly be wrong? It honestly is not that big a deal man, keep exploring the best of metal and it will convince you itself. True, a lot of people have false convictions about a lot of things, but instead of seeing it generally just look at the specific situation of metal music. All of that noise about opinions yadda yadda is just the product of warring egos.

So it does not have to be arrogance, though it can easily be perceived as such. It is just conviction.

Edit: Let me ask you a question fenrir. For the best-of list of death metal and black metal on the DLA, can you appreciate why each and every album and band is on there? Ignore the order.

Actually a bit more leeway, not each and every one but pretty much all of them. If the answer is no, which ones do you not appreciate? If the answer is yes, high five bro.

Metal / Re: Metallica are Beliebers
« on: October 31, 2013, 02:54:31 PM »
Fade to Black is great, One takes it too far. I dont see how those quotes turned into Metallica are Beliebers though. Lars is basically saying he dooesnt care for the kid`s music. Anyway at this point Justin Bieber has far more credibility and integrity than Metallica.

For the members here: What do you consider the worst Metallica album? I see St. Anger mentioned most often but I personally think it is Death Magnetic that takes the poopcake. St. Anger is at least an attempt to say something, no matter how shitty.

Interzone / Re: Who attends this forum?
« on: October 31, 2013, 01:33:50 PM »
English is not your first-language?
"It was for me" refers to the embarrassing realization, which was embarrassing for me, it does not refer to the music, or my playing of it.

lol what is with the snark? I am talking about the `about me` part of your sentence. About me, for me etc.

Interzone / Re: Who attends this forum?
« on: October 31, 2013, 10:41:43 AM »
I quit playing because I realized I'd been doing it purely to feed my own ego, right from the start.
It was all about me, and my vast need for praise and adulation from others.
That's an embarrassing thing to realize about oneself, no? It was for me.

Dont see it that way. When it was for adulation, i.e. for others to see, it was ego food, but it wasnt FOR YOU. The music I mean.

When the music is for you it is ego free.

Interzone / Re: Who attends this forum?
« on: October 31, 2013, 09:57:41 AM »
Btw, I expected some more motivation and serious answers.

I dont want to display my life to you though, why would I?

As far as arrogance goes he is right.

Metal / Re: Quantity-- just quit
« on: October 30, 2013, 06:47:29 PM »
It is important to remember though, that we are looking at hundreds of years and relatively few composers - metal has only been around for as long as JS Bach alone was composing.

I think that is a very good point. It is easy to see a big lull in the quality of metal music and think it is all over when the sweep of history is really on a much broader scale. That said, it is still possible to see where things are generally headed (not good for metal at the moment, but faint glimmer on the horizon).

Metal / Re: Horror movies related to metal
« on: October 30, 2013, 06:08:34 PM »
Someone posted about The Wicker Man on the blog about this same topic, that is one.

Metal / Re: Hipsters justify metal intrusion
« on: October 30, 2013, 09:29:57 AM »
We didnt like those same old power chords *sounds exactly like Black Sabbath and decades old hippie rock mashed together*

Metal / Re: Metal nourishes plants
« on: October 29, 2013, 05:55:33 PM »
The metal used was: http://www.metal-archives.com/bands/Chimaira/9208

In conclusion, plants have horrible taste.

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