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Metal / Re: Tape trading
« on: February 13, 2014, 08:19:27 AM »
This is how metal music worked in lots of countries. I would not have been introduced to metal (and hence, had no urge to search for metal related stuff immediately after gaining access to the internet) were it not for pirated tapes made out of the collections of individuals.

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Metal / Re: Melo-Doom
« on: February 10, 2014, 02:32:06 AM »
Of the bands named I only know of Pallbearer and even them I dont know much about. Melancholy melody is the calling card of most doom metal, it exploded in popularity after (sellout) My Dying Bride and Paradise Lost et al. Both of these bands fit `melo-doom`, particularly the second Paradise Lost. Pink Frothy AIDS was also a contributor, bands like November`s Doom were a dime a dozen before the whole post-black metal scene arrived. As far as doom with a strong sense of melody is concerned, Skepticism comes to mind, particularly this. Early My Dying Bride isnt bad either and Ras Algethi is probably the best doom metal band to ever exist, but probably wont 100% fit what has been mentioned in the first post. I dont know whether you have heard Ras Algethi dead last, but in any case Oneiricon is an essential metal album.

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Interzone / Re: Liberty
« on: February 08, 2014, 05:34:24 PM »
Yeah these people always sound the same. Indignant posture, expression of hatred.

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Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: February 07, 2014, 09:16:54 PM »
I dislike The Loss and Curse of Reverence, it is sort of the symbol of Emperor`s decline for me, but I suppose I see what you mean dawn. Still, I cant do it. On Ix my breaking point was that Icaros song, its where I figured the band was unsalvageable (heard it before Anthems). After ItNE they should have gone back to something like Wrath of the Tyrant imo. Simpler songs with long, slowly elaborating (but sawing and nihilistic) melodies.

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Metal / Re: Power Metal
« on: February 07, 2014, 09:03:44 PM »
I recently had the chance to listen to the first two major releases by Brocas Helm, the full lengths Into Battle and Black Death. The band did not have the support they desired from their label and were particularly annoyed at the choice of cover art for Into Battle. They released Black Death on their own subsequently. Into Battle is a solid heavy metal album, but Black Death is pretty special and highly recommended.

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Interzone / Re: Liberty
« on: February 06, 2014, 09:16:27 PM »
Wow, just wow... Maybe we could have all three if bigots like you died!

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Interzone / Re: Deceased getting turned into diamonds
« on: February 05, 2014, 12:37:21 AM »
Started reading this out of curiousity, got from the beginning to this quoted section. Veeeeeery interesting stuff.

Wait till you see what he has to say about women!

crow if you are not familiar with Kevin Solway you should check that link out, the man shares a lot with you.

Our corpses are not ours to desecrate. Bury and forget. Return them to the earth instead of turning them into more product.

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Metal / Re: Indian classical music
« on: February 04, 2014, 12:47:34 AM »
Not a big fan of Dhrupad but I think thats because only the Mishra brothers really practice it. The structure of a general Khyal is a beginning portion of elaboration of the notes of the raga to be performed afterwards, without rhythmic accompaniment, generally in the form of what is called Aakaar (expressing notes using only the Aa vowel sound). This is followed by the lyrical portion of the raga, the bandish, the lyrics basically. Each syllable being deliberately chosen to correspond with an underlying note, in hindustani music generally written in the dialect of hindi/urdu called braj or brij basha. A fairly archaic language still spoken in a few villages in India.

The main portion begins usually in a slow portion, the vilambit portion, a lot of performers stay here for a good long time, giving Khyal its droning quality. This is followed by the medium rhythm portion, madhya lay, eventually ending in the fast drut lay.

Some great Khyal practicioners are Ustad Amir Khan, Ustad Rashid Khan, Pandit Bhimsen Joshi, Ustad Salamat Ali Khan, Pandit Jasraj (he can be a bit needlessly flashy), Bade ghulam Ali Khan (has a lot of more popular stuff, few recordings of serious music) and I suppose Ajay Chakraborty, Kaushiki`s father.

Instrumetal Khyal is broadly similar to the vocal style, but the use of instruments allows some aesthetic differences, the ability to elaborate some phrases that vocals cant. Overall the human voice can approximate more sound than any instrument, so it is favoured. I prefer the Sarod and Sitar.

During a Khyal performance the main vocalist is accompanied by a secondary instrument. This used to be mostly the sarangi, a grossly violin like instrument, but nowadays is increasingly the indian harmonium. A background drone in some notes of the raga is played by one or two tanpuras, large sitar like instruments which are played only by tuning them to the required raga and playing each string in succession repeatedly.

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Metal / Re: Indian classical music
« on: February 03, 2014, 03:05:16 AM »
I suppose I could link dump a bit here, should all be easy to digest, no hour long khyal performances or anything like that:

aquarius you might like this, a thumri by a very accomplished female vocalist: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8urYZ1MehE

This is part of an indian television classical music programme. Starts off with an explanation and introduction which is unfortunately in hindi. This kind of performance is called a jugalbandi, where two performers improvise with each other. Both vocalists are acclaimed greats, recommended, as are the related links (especially Darbari which is a very dark, very difficult raag, this is Shankara): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OjdKws4vjOs

A Carnatic music link, a famous religious song, sung by M.S. Subbulakshmi. The raga is Bhairav which is similar to Shankara, the one in the previous link. Shankara can be considered to be derived from Bhairav. Linking this to demonstrate the similarity between carnatic and hindustani music: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQHjNqbALB4

Edit: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_BfnV0HiaVA <-- to drive it home a bit, another Shankara (just 2:31 worth) in hindustani style.

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Metal / Re: What Are Your All Time favorite Brutal Death Metal bands ;D
« on: February 03, 2014, 02:07:34 AM »
Let's not request pics. We're better than the "tits or gtfo" crowd here.

I hope not, thats a pretty great crowd compared to the alternative simpering nerdy one that leaps over itself to accomodate what are ironically, usually other simpering nerds. I actually thought this one was a bot. Kind of still do.

Surprised at the responses, I mean sure benefit-of-the-doubt and all that but... imma pretty brutal def metal grrl... seriously?

nice troll

I thought it was kind of shit to be honest.

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Metal / Re: What Are Your All Time favorite Brutal Death Metal bands ;D
« on: February 01, 2014, 05:18:12 PM »
lol, not a real person

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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: February 01, 2014, 05:17:25 AM »
Nah they share a lot, I dont know why you would say that. Carnatic music is much more streamlined as far as theory is concerned now though. Still, they operate on similar principles. Personally, I prefer hindustani music and hindustani performers, probably a bit of cultural bias at work there; more courtly/regal. I distrust western sources on indian music because often some of the greatest performers are just not engaged (language and exposure issues), and the ones that are do a lot of crap fusion-y and experimental stuff or are somewhat dishonest (fuck Ravi Shankar). It isnt difficult to understand or appreciate, a bit of experience is all that is required. Wikipedia is probably good enough to sort out any holes after that. Anyway, not the place for this stuff.

Currently listening to Insanity - Death after Death and Emperor - Wrath of the Tyrant. Love that last one, sometimes even more than ItNE. Someone needs to copy that shit, its so deliciously evil.

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Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: February 01, 2014, 04:53:09 AM »
Some of the riffs are nice too, even on Prometheus, but the final product...

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