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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: February 01, 2014, 12:28:14 AM »
I've seen Indian classical mentioned around here a few times. Would you mind recommending me one symphony/opus from either of these composers? I'd like to dive into this genre; I've never heard classical music outside of a European/American context and I'm pretty curious.

Sorry my friend, missed this post. I am afraid what you requested does not apply, both of these are performers. There is no real concept of composer separate from performer in indian classical. In fact it has pretty much nothing in common with Western music, even the understanding of scales/notes etc. is different. Indian music would be closer to folk music as opposed to the large scale of western classical. There is generally a single performer with a small supporting group and the music consists of a single melodic line (there are no chords in indian music) with a strong focus on improvisation within certain forms. There was a thread on the forum which may be a good place to start just to ground yourself and satisfy curiousity: http://www.deathmetal.org/forum/index.php/topic,7791.0.html (if you have further interest just bump that thread).

Try this, focusing on the final two minutes or so: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hobK_8bIDvk

Listening to Betrayer - Calamity. I might even prefer Maze of Suffering to Maze of Torment :D

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Interzone / Re: Accidentally vegan
« on: January 26, 2014, 11:51:19 PM »
All the vegans I know (2) are immensely fat women who happily consume whole blocks of cheese, this seems perfect for them. I dont really trust that list though, not that it matters.

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Interzone / Re: God sends armageddon omen
« on: January 26, 2014, 11:46:06 PM »
I interpreted it as an indictment of Francis and the current Catholic Church, but glad to see someone else thought in similar directions. Omens are awesome.

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Metal / Re: What happened to Ildjarn
« on: January 26, 2014, 06:00:07 PM »
Pure conjecture, so forgive me:

-Why would he want to teach? Because children are not adults and because one needs a living. Anyway, people change. I always considered his misanthropic statements to be exaggeration. Even if they were not, I dont think that is a stable position and it is bound to lead to something else. You cant avoid humans and human society entirely, teaching kids in the near-wilderness seems to be a good compromise considering that.

-Alcoholic and drug-worshipper: This sounds like an extreme statement from one who deliberately keeps away from such things. Also once again, people change, if only in their habits and the man says he had a kid which seems like enough impetus. Perhaps he renounced these? After all the phrase could apply to the man behind this site if admitted portions of his life are true (at the time).

-I think the man is a little old for teenage poon.

I have no solid argument to offer though, just gut feeling.

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Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: January 26, 2014, 01:53:01 AM »
Stay tuned, I'm about to herald Wolves in the Throne Room's latest album as the greatest achievement in black metal since Ix Equilibrium.

That... makes complete sense? Maybe you meant a different album? Ix Equilibrium is garbage.

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Metal / Re: What happened to Ildjarn
« on: January 26, 2014, 01:39:21 AM »
As elusive as Vaer is, I know absolutely nothing about this Nidhogg fellow and as far as I know he has never been identified. I dont see what possible way there would be of confirming that its him in light of that except to take the channel and the statements at face value. At face value I find it credible. Not the first metal musician to turn to teaching.

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Interzone / Re: Metaphor for death
« on: January 25, 2014, 04:47:03 PM »
Metaphor for undeath: Stephen Hawking

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Metal / Re: Did Behemoth gang-rape a drunk fan in 2001?
« on: January 25, 2014, 04:31:27 PM »
That bit of knee showing makes the picture.

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Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: January 24, 2014, 03:46:46 AM »
Wasnt aimed at you man, I just liked his particular phrasing. I have to say though, not looking forward to a future where you mount a one-man personal defense of every band this board loudly hates (kidding, kidding). But yeah, like what you like. I care about the good stuff not getting the attention and appreciation it deserves, as long as that is clear its all good. If you want to rile me up dont say I like DSO, say I hate Burzum/Aske.

(dont do it)

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Interzone / Re: Grants Really are the Gayest Thing on Earth
« on: January 24, 2014, 03:26:03 AM »
No, what I said may be applied to any institution, large or small. When you get to the point where the top rung, the elites, w/e you call them, consider themselves in active conflict with their own institution and consider this a good thing, total death has occured. The rest is a question of time, how long will it take the corpse to start smelling? When will the odor become unbearable?

When is someone going to bury the damn thing?

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Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:27:01 PM »
Quote from: Zodijackyl
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Well said, good posts.

Aggressively boring describes DSO very well. A lot of other technical-ish modern metal bands too. There is no gravitas to this stuff. It aint heavy, its just noisy.

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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: January 23, 2014, 09:23:19 PM »
Catching up with some indian classical, Salamat Ali Khan and Ali Akbar Khan mostly. Also listening to the Vangelis Blade Runner soundtrack.

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Interzone / Re: Grants Really are the Gayest Thing on Earth
« on: January 23, 2014, 06:02:40 PM »
It is pretty crazy to call it revolting when they've long since won.

Absolutely. That is how you know the victory has occured at all, when we are in `permanent revolution` (against?).

In fact one of the personalities quoted in the article in the first post said as much:

Quote from: Boulez
"Why compose works that have to be re-created every time they are performed? Because definitive, once-and-for-all developments seem no longer appropriate to musical thought as it is today, or to the actual state that we have reached in the evolution of musical technique, which is increasingly concerned with the investigation of a relative world, a permanent 'discovering' rather like the state of 'permanent revolution'."

Fuck Pierre Boulez, incidentally.

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Interzone / Re: Welfare, babies and love nests
« on: January 23, 2014, 04:36:41 PM »
The state sued Marotta for child support when Schreiner received financial assistance.

Ahahahahahahahahahaha

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Interzone / Re: Grants Really are the Gayest Thing on Earth
« on: January 23, 2014, 04:09:47 PM »
A fair attempt, and probably right, but it is the broader decay that is responsible and the article hints at it. A slow process that takes generations apparently. We talk about the future of metal sometimes, how it looks bleak, but how salvageable is modern Western classical? After all, the bureaucratic reasoning stated in the article should inspire reaction, however meek and minority. It does not. No matter how hard you look you will come up empty.

This is why I think metal was the legitimate spiritual successor of western music.

Edit: To drive home the death, what is the attitude of current and recent-past creators in western classical towards their music? Do they consider themselves an established hegemony? No, they think they are revolutionaries against an oppressive classical past. An excerpt from a description of The Rest is Noise, a book about this crap, emphasis mine:

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The Rest Is Noise takes the reader inside the labyrinth of modern sound. It tells of maverick personalities who have resisted the cult of the classical past, struggled against the indifference of a wide public, and defied the will of dictators. Whether they have charmed audiences with the purest beauty or battered them with the purest noise, composers have always been exuberantly of the present, defying the stereotype of classical music as a dying art.

Tells you the decay is total.

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