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Interzone / Coursera introductory classes on Classical music
« on: November 30, 2013, 04:35:12 AM »
I've taken a couple of classes on coursera and I wanted to share and recommend them to metal fans who are not familiar with
but are interested in getting a acquainted with classical music.   In case someone does not want to register to the website, I also downloaded
the videos from coursera and uploaded them to dropbox repository to share.

1)  From the Repertoire: Western Music History through Performance
by David Ludwig, Jonathan Coopersmith

Coursera course: https://class.coursera.org/musichistoryperforms-001/class
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/nbx2oshrbdt5458/From%20the%20Repertoire.%20Western%20Music%20History%20through%20Performance.zip

2) Exploring Beethoven’s Piano Sonatas
Jonathan Biss

Coursera course: https://www.coursera.org/course/beethovensonatas
Dropbox: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2qn2kcm9wtdfzsu/Exploring%20Beethoven%20Sonatas%2C%20Jonathan%20Biss.zip

Metal / Re: An idea: Obscura for string quartet?
« on: November 30, 2013, 04:28:14 AM »
I just downloaded the album in FLAC just for this purpose.  Now I need to get my hands on the best headphones I can.

I was listening to the album and I think one of the things I think I might have problems with is discerning the bass line clearly.

Metal / Re: An idea: Obscura for string quartet?
« on: November 29, 2013, 02:37:44 PM »
Well, I did major in music composition. 

Well, then the moment I get a song down on paper, the first thing I'll do is inform you and share it for you to revise.

Metal / Re: An idea: Obscura for string quartet?
« on: November 29, 2013, 02:35:49 PM »
Wow, it's really exciting to meet someone like you!  (a Music major who is genuinely interested in underground extreme metal)
And thanks (again) a lot for being interested in this.

PS.  If you have a blog or write artciles/reviews/analyses, I'd love to read them.

Metal / Re: An idea: Obscura for string quartet?
« on: November 29, 2013, 11:48:34 AM »
if you don't have some experience writing for string quartet it's unlikely that you will realize the full potential of the medium

I'm fully aware of that.  If it is done it should be done well.  It shouldn't be just OK, it should be great.

What I had in mind was to get the songs into a music sheet, transcribing as correctly as possible.  Maybe make annotations of the special techniques used too (rasping of strings, whammy dives, etc), and in any case the recording is there.

After getting it all decently on paper, get someone who is actually capable of doing a good of adapting metal to a classical string quartet to do it.  A music composition major would be ideal.

So there are several distinct steps:
[1] transcription
[2] double check with peers
[3] adaptation for classical string quartet (someone else, I am not prepared for this, hopefully in some 5 years, I will be...)

If I get time over the next couple of days I'll try transcribing something from that album.

Thank you for your interest!  If you could tell me where you'll start, that'll be a great aid so that we do not transcribe the same song.  After, we can swap our music sheets to double check for mistakes. What do you think?

Metal / An idea: Obscura for string quartet?
« on: November 29, 2013, 03:16:56 AM »
Would anyone find the idea of the Obscura album by Gorguts be played by a classical string quartet compelling?

The content of the two guitars and bass (and possible the voice, in some parts) be not only transcribed (of course) but adapted and rearranged for classical string instruments in a way that takes advantage of the capabilities and techniques used in those instruments.

Frankly, the idea is incredibly tempting for me.  If anyone is not already doing it, I am making an entry in my to-do list for next year to at least start to get down the guitars and bass lines into music scores.  I think that would be a first step.  I am not an expert on this nor am I a music major, so when I get it done (if someone didn't do it already), I'd like to see if someone can do the adapting to string quartet done.

Interzone / Re: Who/What is God?
« on: November 28, 2013, 02:01:36 AM »
God is a religious term to describe Reality. But nobody knows that, any more.

As far as we KNOW... no one ever knew it, actually.
As far as we can see, it's all stories made up by humans to explain things they cannot understand. 

Metal / Re: Tristan und Isolde - Prelude
« on: November 25, 2013, 02:45:40 AM »
I've never been a fan of Wagner, too Romantic-going-on-impressionism for me.
I am more of a ... traditionalist, give me Brahms, Bach, Beethoven (who shows great exploration and non-conformity while remaining structuralist, so to speak).  Even Beethoven's most wild pieces (the famous and great, love-it-or-hate-it Grose Fuge, for example) are structuralist.

I somehow never manage to be moved by Stravinsky, and much less by Wagner.  Full-on Expressionism such as Schoenberg definitely takes me somewhere when I pay attention to it, but it is far from being my favorite.  Wagner makes me feel bored every single time I listen to it. It is not lack of concentration or interest as I sit through Beethoven symphonies or Haydn sonatas just concentrating on the movements in the music.  Even if I take the approach of listening to Wagner as I listen to Burzum (letting it wash over me and just "ride the tide" werever this stream takes me) I do not feel any pull, I don't feel like I am being lead anywhere. 

I will still listen to your shared Tristan and Isolde, though. 

Interzone / Re: Roger Scruton
« on: November 22, 2013, 01:40:06 AM »
How about speaking to the guy? I expect someone like Brett Stevens is up to the task to interact with a guy like that on an intellectual level.

Interzone / Re: How do you want to die?
« on: November 12, 2013, 06:23:10 PM »
I would like to be in the wilderness, alone, with nothing except the awareness of my last moments. Not necessarily knowing exactly how I was going to die - just knowing that I was.


Metal / Re: What Band are you listening today?
« on: November 12, 2013, 02:51:52 PM »
Repeating, going over Slayer's South Side of Heaven, Deicide's Legion and Celtic Frost's To Mega Therion. 
New to Pagan Mind's Celestial Entrance.  This one is pretty good in its genre, but I cannot stand listening to all the album without a break. The last couple of songs in the album are gold, specially the very last two.

Metal / Re: Harsh Anus.com review on Veles 'The Black Ravens flew again'
« on: November 07, 2013, 02:57:52 AM »
Music reviews are reviews of music, not an individuals integrity, personality, work ethic or any number of things. If the music doesnt hold up, it doesnt hold up.

Couldn't have said it better myself.  People like to tell you about how hard-working the band members are, as if that makes the music better.  Or they like to talk about how hard it is to write decent music.
I don't care.  Quality is quality. Stop whining about us telling you the truth!

Interzone / Re: Beethoven - Große Fuge, op. 133 (Takács Quartet)
« on: November 05, 2013, 09:13:04 AM »
Various recordings of Grosse Fuge


Interzone / Re: Beethoven - Große Fuge, op. 133 (Takács Quartet)
« on: November 04, 2013, 02:25:36 PM »

Maybe a combination of listening to and GETTING FAMILIAR with intricate music such as Bach's "The Art of Fugue" (since Grosse Fugue is precisely a fugue) and some dissonant twisted music (not only the classic composers but maybe even metal such as Immolation from albums like Herein After and Unholy Cult) can help in training the ear to listen to late Beethoven string quartets.  Specially this one.

Interzone / Beethoven - Große Fuge, op. 133 (Takács Quartet)
« on: November 04, 2013, 06:50:28 AM »
He who divines the secret of my music is delivered from the misery that haunts the world
- Beethoven


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