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What's Nietzsche's relationship to metaphysical objectivism?
He's a stoic in this regard. He says it's there but we lack the tools to discern it in a pure sense. The closest he gets is through the "will to power."
Every theistic religion tends towards inequality, hierarchy and elitism. These are structures which Bowden supports, same as Nietzsche. Nietzsche's project was in essence an attempt to restore per judeo-Christian pagan morality. Bowden identified himself as a pagan.
Nietzsche expresses his sympathies towards Christianity early on in thus spake by the way.
Bowden says that metaphysically objectivist view is worth a hundren men, or some number. Religion falls within that category but so does Bowden's views on the metaphysically objective "fire" as he inherited the concept from Heraclitus.
« on: December 01, 2013, 05:15:07 PM »
- It made a great cover. (Bootleg, not album)
- Dead people dont complain when you use their skull bits as necklaces.
- I also hope black metal spreads a bit more misery around, we could use it.
With this you very much confirm the criticism many have of a lot of black metal artist's disregard for human life. Even some of the members from Mayhem were repulsed by Euronymous' actions.
Black metal was against the crowd, artistically, ideologically. Making this sort of appeal, even internal to the black metal crowd, is misguided on your part.
As far as we KNOW... no one ever knew it, actually.
As far as we can see, it's all stories made up by humans to explain things they cannot understand.
Such can be said of any system of knowledge. Functionality is what happens to be important, not terminology. If you want to go with the theory that things fall to the ground because they have a love affair with the earth and that rate is 10 m^2 then you have something that is workable regardless of whether or not the objects in fact do have a love affair or you just call it gravity.
Paradoxes, self contradictory collections of narratives and nonsensical views are OK to have as long as they work where the rubber meets the road. You're probably better off with them than nothing.
Whether God is reality or transcendent of it is largely irrelevant next to what you build from that foundation.
« on: November 27, 2013, 02:29:49 AM »
Plant's voice in "Fool in the Rain" is completely unbearable.
I agree with the guy who said technology. Material factors are the main drives of human history - physical conditions, material comfort, and technology levels. These are the sort of things everyone is affected by.
This is my main issue with all ideological die-hards, both leftists and rightists. It's not political ideologies that cause massive worldwide changes. Only someone who lives in a fantasy world, with his head far up his own ass, seriously believes that ivory-tower political ideas are the engines of history.
The technologies society produces are always contingent on cultural narratives telling them what is important and what they should produce. Physical conditions and resource base are propellants, but towards what? Enter: Ideas. Shifts in narrative cause large changes, mismatches between expectation and reality cause mismanagement which causes collapse.
There are any number of directions technology will go, just as there are any number of directions resources will be allocated. Politics are subservient to the same dominant narratives which are strictly within the realm of ideas; the engine of history.
That's the type of church I like to attend
We shape clay into a pot,
but it is the emptiness inside
that holds whatever we want.
We hammer wood for a house,
but it is the inner space
that makes it livable.
That is why I prefer a building for such exercises. Cultivate the inner space. Fill it as it fills you.
European churches are mostly real solid-stone engineering/artistic marvels. You can't help but notice the care and expense lavished upon them when they were new. Very few north american churches can compare. In fact, I saw a 'church' recently here in Canada, that was a modular steel warehouse hosting a furniture store, before changing hands.
Hard to feel spiritually meditative inside a warehouse.
That's the jest of my experience. I live about an hour between two major cities which everyone knows and sadly enough that's where your architecture is. I do what I can to avoid those places. I hear they have Buddhist temples in LA, can't imagine tranquility is found amidst the roar of traffic and cursing.
I was referring to religion as one's personal involvement with the Divine, as opposed to a bunch of people all chanting the same thing. I could have been clearer.
One size rarely fits all, and even if it does, it doesn't fit all at the same time.
I bought a foam-filled wheelbarrow tire recently, guaranteed to fit any wheelbarrow.
Of course, 'fit' is a relative term. The wheel now wobbles loosely upon its axle, and I imagine 'one size fits all' really means 'one size fits none', at least not very well.
I would refer to what you describe as a spiritual experience, not to play semantics, but to distinguish between group and individual participation. My only true experience with the divine was entirely unprovoked, unsought. It simply happened. No chanting and no ritual. It was only after that experience that I began to see the value in the group experience we can call religion.