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Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 10, 2014, 02:44:07 PM »
Nothing would please me more. Nobody needs you.
The site is expressly about transcendence. And you don't get it.
Transcendence from screaming infant to realized man, via the unlikely mediums of deathmetal and nihilism.
So long.

Woa, isn't Wild a staff writer and contributor of actual content for this site? It's often I don't agree with his points, but we manage better than this exchange just here...

What do you mean 'nobody needs him' - if he's a writer, then of course he is needed?

Am I missing something here?

I think Jon is just banned from the forum. Not sure if he will continue contributing to the front page.

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Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 09, 2014, 10:43:49 PM »
I appreciate that he took the time to clarify. Are you really trying to bring the hammer down on two people showing a little good will and civility? L

 

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Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 09, 2014, 07:44:58 PM »
No worries. I'm clear now what you mean and I agree with you.

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Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 09, 2014, 07:38:59 PM »
All I was driving at was my desire to know stories other than the ones of my culture. Having been exposed to them often helps me remain adaptable, especially in circumstances where the stories of our culture no longer function. I often can not say YES to them, like the Aboriginal example, but there are insights within that have proven to be valuable. Which lends itself into that cultural context you mentioned. To myself at least.

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Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 09, 2014, 07:30:44 PM »
Integration is not helpful I think. When the two disciplines overlap, you get people looking for cosmic tooling marks from God's CNC. Answering the questions of how live in this world cannot be answered by facts, they must be made on the basis of faith. Faith and values.

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Interzone / Re: Denigrating science to inflate the religious ego
« on: May 09, 2014, 06:15:26 PM »
Cheers!

I'd probably opt to leave religion out of the discussion entirely because it is a different animal, with a different function, who's truths are validated NY different means.

But, all else considered, spot on.

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Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 09, 2014, 06:02:41 PM »
Ah right eternal return. Thanks, I forgot the proper term. If I'm not mistaken it wasn't Nietzsche's it was the Stoic's. Not that it matters.

For Nietzsche, Amor Fati and Eternal Return are linked - a "yes-saying" to reality which for Nietzsche, was Eternal Return. I understand that Armor Fati is being used in this thread towards the Crow-ANUS approach, so this is probably an unnecessary distraction. Eitherway. The thought experiment of totally submitting to a perceived order alien to oneself is fruitful.

For example, the Aboriginal Australian view: Everything plays itself out in "Dream Time." When we are awake, we are merely acting out the events that have already occurred with no autonomy. Can you say YES to that? Haha, I could not.

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Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 09, 2014, 05:40:05 PM »
Naturally. Either way. I think it's interesting, the outcomes of saying yes to various -uh- outlooks.

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Interzone / Re: Amor Fati
« on: May 09, 2014, 04:49:27 PM »
Didn't this also drive him mad? Can you say yes to repeating the same patterns and the same details for an eternity? He obviously could not and broke, irreparably.

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Interzone / Re: Are offensive or dangerous ideas metal?
« on: May 06, 2014, 05:40:01 PM »
Rip the Traditionalist's flesh
Sodomize the Economist's asshole
Conserve the black blood of the mother of earth
Masturbation on the dead body of the middle class
The God of Progress is dead
and it was only ever a myth
Vomit on those trying to create heaven
Masturbate on paper wealth
Break the infrastructures of industry
Drink the sustainable energy of the earth
Taste the flesh of living beings
Sodomize Employers
Destiny among the stars is a lie
Our society will collapse
Dethroned like all the rest
The past is alive
Humanism is done
Purity is archaic
Cities are burned
Covered in black ash
Rape the Marxist Liars
And the free market scum
Equality will fail
Fuck the Economy
Fuck Growth
Fuck Moral Progress

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Interzone / Re: Are offensive or dangerous ideas metal?
« on: May 06, 2014, 05:20:00 PM »
It's because of a shift away from one religious sensibility to another. Granted, there is a parent/sibling relationship at work. Nevertheless, it should come as no surprise that blasphemy against the sacred cows of the parent faith should be endorsed while blasphemy against the sacred cows of the accepted sibling faith would be treated as being blasphemous.

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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: May 05, 2014, 03:54:12 PM »
MDC-Millions of Dead Cops all

Infest-No Man's Slave

Siege-Drop Dead

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Metal / Re: Municipal Wastes first album
« on: May 05, 2014, 03:48:44 PM »
Hmmmm......

I've never viewed the first album in that light. Perhaps it is worth a revist.

It's kind of the spotty quality that keeps the Birth AD debut from being great. Sure the EP songs sound much improved and new songs like Burn LA, but a good chunk is filler.

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Interzone / Re: Your wish is my command...
« on: May 05, 2014, 03:41:33 PM »
The spiritual stuff was your best contribution. :(
That was a revealing comment. I had to ponder it for a bit.
Seems to me, anything I write is spiritual, because given who I am, it can be nothing else.
The intellect likes to divide things up into categories, whereas spirit sees it all as one thing.
Remember that huuuuuuge government warehouse at the end of 'Raiders of The Lost Ark'? Full of crates and stuff?
That's the inside of peoples' heads.
Mine is more like an empty plain, with sky overhead. Mostly sunny, but sometimes a storm.
Little chance of buffer overflow.

I am of the opinion that experiencing the whole system and comprehending its parts are complementary faculties. Often but not necessarily at odds with each other.

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Interzone / Re: Your wish is my command...
« on: May 05, 2014, 02:17:47 AM »
The spiritual stuff was your best contribution. :(

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