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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: May 02, 2014, 11:41:48 AM »
I just found a lot of the riffs to be extremely out of place, uninspired, and annoying. I love DtSoG but this does nothing for me. I'm probably gonna be listening to it again though because your praise of it piques my curiosity.

I'm convinced that what you describe was the objective of the album. Hence the comparison to the first Havohej album. It is black metal in the way nobody wants to hear it. Compare it to the latest Demoncy for example. The album, while excellent, plays black metal the way people want and expect. They play ideas that, while containing emotional depth, are desirable. Profanatica have never really been about riffs so much as energy, motion and feeling. Which is why they get away with angular, often redundant to idiotic riffs that border child-like. It's never been about the musical ideas, but the more subconscious primal cadence. With the latest album they take that and expand it into the realm of melody.

I've found that the best way to experience Profanatica is to put it on without actively listening to it. It only makes sense when it is felt. I doubt that makes any sense. It's difficult for me to relay my experience.

Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: May 02, 2014, 07:03:04 AM »
Profanatica - Dbag/ Thy kingdom

I firmly believe Profanatica to be the best black metal band active today.

I thought Thy Kingdom Cum left a lot to be desired. It felt much drier than Disgusting Blasphemies or the like.

Drier? It's their most musically dense album! It's a lot like an experimental Dethrone the Son of God in that they didn't write riffs and melodies that would appeal to anyone. I think I said this earlier but I believe its intent was to blaspheme black metal convention and Profanatica at least as one might have come to expect them to sound.

Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: May 01, 2014, 02:39:30 PM »
Profanatica - Dbag/ Thy kingdom

I firmly believe Profanatica to be the best black metal band active today.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: May 01, 2014, 10:03:29 AM »
Shifts between theocentrism and anthropocentrism are common throughout human history. I don't agree with the common assertions that place Progressivism squarely with liberalism. I think, as the dominant religion of our time, it finds it's way into politics as one would expect of religion. If you know the narratives you can find them at work, at least since the enlightenment, in all major political alignments.

Of course, the conservatives up until the 20th century were something of a vanguard against Progress, however they no longer exist in any meaningful sense. Ad I've mentioned before, the reactionaries still buy into the narrative but preach doom. In a less binary view, Republicans (Liberals) believe their policies will bring prosperity, technological and moral Progress. Though the outward forms differ from the open Progressives and open Liberals, the underlying belief structure is identical.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: May 01, 2014, 09:50:00 AM »
The debate is shaping up in a manner similar to that of the theists versus the atheists. The theists may cite a series of past miracles against the odds. The atheists may acknowledge all the past miracles but remind the theists that the next expected miracle nonetheless isn't therefore guaranteed and additionally represents a deviation in kind from all the rest.

This secular faith in man's inevitable overcoming is simply an outgrowth of modern liberal progressivism. That in turn as has been restated here so much (and perhaps by Nietzsche) is simply a result of our transformation from a theocentric to an anthropocentric culture, not an evolutionary step. Familiar evangelical "good news gospel" hallmarks are reflected in typical liberal proclamations like that shown in the quoted Wall Street Journal article.

I'd say hoping for microfusion power plants is equivalent to centering our society around the Second Coming. Not very prudent!

Nietzsche definitely critiqued Progressivism in Zarathustra. In fact he critiqued all its rival models vying for the void left by the death of God. In my opinion, those critiques as well as other insights into the nature of ideas will always be his most valuable contribution. His philosophy on the other hand, is disposable.

It's ironic for a civilization which praises science as much as ours to ignore the laws of physics in the pursuit of fusion energy. You need a compressive force on the plasma to keep fusion reaction (relatively) stable without ripping the machine apart. That force has to be resistant to electro magnetic shifts. There are only a small handful of forces in the Universe we know of and the only one resistant to those shifts is gravity. Gravity doesn't provide sufficient compression to allow for viable fusion reaction on a scale smaller than a star.

The power of myth.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: May 01, 2014, 08:32:38 AM »
"We are using 50% more resources than the Earth can sustainably produce, and unless we change course, that number will grow fast—by 2030, even two planets will not be enough," says Jim Leape, director general of the World Wide Fund for Nature International (formerly the World Wildlife Fund).

But here's a peculiar feature of human history: We burst through such limits again and again. After all, as a Saudi oil minister once said, the Stone Age didn't end for lack of stone. Ecologists call this "niche construction"—that people (and indeed some other animals) can create new opportunities for themselves by making their habitats more productive in some way. Agriculture is the classic example of niche construction: We stopped relying on nature's bounty and substituted an artificial and much larger bounty.


Petroleum is too specialized of a resource for us to readily invent some random replacement. It isn't stone or copper for which numerous replacements are and were known. There is nothing available with the energy density and the distribution viability of that particular resource. On the application side are all of the billions of machines that must utilize petrol specifically in rather exact states of refinement for the machine to function. Can the world economy stand to totally reengineer virtually every machine and power plant? There is a lot of faith-based messianic economist Jesusthink afoot in this article with no grounding in physics but much in unrelated parts of history.

All of the talk of transition to renewables ignores the basic facts you outline. Unless the replacement for oil can fit in a fuel tank and be distributed using our current infrastructure, the hope of maintaining current levels of industry is shot. Maybe in the seventies, there was enough liquid fuel left to transition (back) to a renewable base while maintaining a modest level of industry. Not so today.

Economic mythology suggests energy resources are interchangable and thus it's simply a matter of swapping out liquid fuels for something else so Progress can continue.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: May 01, 2014, 06:21:04 AM »
Absolutely, Empire is just one of those activities that isn't going anywhere. The budding Eastern Empires are flowering in an age of scarcity and will be better equipped to handle this period than America and the west. The third world might just thrive due largely to having experienced the standard of living that is to be expected as we slide down the oil peak. 

Progressivism is going to decline significantly. Its core suppositions do not address the world we live in, and the world we face. It's antireligion elements in the alt. right fail in the same regard because they posit, like the believers, that Progress will continue except that the end of the road is hell, not Paradise. Interesting times.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: April 30, 2014, 04:25:55 PM »
America has already begun imperial decline.

EIA data shows there are insufficient oil reserves to maintain globalization at this scale. 

Suffice it to say, it's already time to begin relocalization. Especially if you live in the US or one of its beneficiary nations. 

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: April 30, 2014, 11:32:38 AM »
I'm really discussing feasibility. Economics were brought up to show how your model requires the creation of a large administrative bureaucracy which is essentially a micromanagement agent. Beyond that structure, I think my second paragraph hints at the brittle nature of specialization.

Myself I prefer resilience which tends to come out of decentralization. Of course, you lose efficiency and the ability to pursue large scale projects such as Empire building. Worth it to me, but others seem to want a society pursuing goals and that's nothing I understand or want.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: April 30, 2014, 06:22:09 AM »
I assumed as much.

Interzone / Re: History proceeds apace with mass executions
« on: April 29, 2014, 11:11:00 AM »
The authorities were accurately profiling real mischief makers and they did their job by aggressively confronting said malcontents.


I did some light reading and according to hipster liberal publication "Slate" it looks like they are eligible for an appeal which is likely to result in a stay on the executions. In any event, we should all reserve judgement until the event comes to pass or doesn't.

Metal / Re: Obscura vrs From Wisdom to Hate
« on: April 28, 2014, 11:13:53 AM »
BUT FWtH is excellently composed, it has beautifully crafted, long, phrasal riffs which develop seemlessly.

Absolutely. However. It is content to cycle between them and leave it at that. The songs come across as stale because of it. I'm revisiting the album today after a long time away and find myself losing interest in each track long before their end. I don't feel climaxes, peaks or even valleys with this album.

Interzone / Re: Objective driven cities
« on: April 28, 2014, 08:29:44 AM »
I believe your idea of specialization is going to result in the creation of MORE cities than we have now. A city for this, and that.

Realistically, efforts to manage the size of each city will result in a massive centralized administrative bureaucracy. The development of this power structure becomes more inevitable when you consider the actual tendencies of human behavior. How do you ensure children relocate themselves willingly? Family bonds and an affinity for the place one grows up will go a long way towards ensuring children stick around in adult hood rather than up and go to designated city X. This concept assumes relocation is always economically viable.

Take it one step further. Consider that a city which produces important but not commercially viable product will have a difficult time securing the resources necessary for life from the cities who do produce them. This situation is likely to be resolved through centralized power structures.

Metal / Re: Municipal Wastes first album
« on: April 25, 2014, 08:18:23 PM »
Yeah man. I actually like their first three. Preference towards the first two. Say what you want about the band. They write tight and MEMORABLE fucking songs. Which is more than can be said about modern cross over / thrash. More than can be said about Birth AD's debut (I like the EP). Word of caution, everything after Art of Partying has been AWFUL.

Interzone / Re: Police misconduct against Hessians/Punkers
« on: April 18, 2014, 03:07:40 PM »
Also, vitriol is a spice of life.

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