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Metal / Re: What bands are you listening to today?
« on: March 23, 2014, 02:12:33 PM »
Terrorizer - Hordes of Zombies

Good, but could have been stronger if the songs were condensed. The title track, specifically, feels like it hangs around for 20 minutes.

Interzone / Re: On the function of art
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:33:08 AM »
I agree fully with your last statement. The most profound art is something Ive felt, matter of the heart, not a matter of the mind. Cheers!

Interzone / Re: Deleted post.
« on: March 23, 2014, 09:29:51 AM »
There is nothing stable about democracy. Democracy is only ever a hoodwinking of the masses by an oligarchy (most often, though not always, a plutarchy).

Democracy is human and therefore it's subject to the faults and failures of humanity. As pointing out and supported by historical events, the American system has overturned stalemates in the degenerated aristocracy multiple times now. Let's take this out of hyperbole and ground it in historical fact, yes?

Even more, there has never even been an actual democacy. It is merely a chimera. The same goes for a free market. Doesn't exist.

By the same accord, there's never been actual communism. It's quite dangerous to deny the real existence of something because the details don't match the theory or the abstraction.

Who cares if one lives in a monarchy or republic? The only relevant question is: what is the society accomplishing?

There are no shortage of examples throughout history where the ruling elite becomes wholly detached from reality. The advantage of the American democracy is that it can, and has been demonstrated to show that it has, removed the ineffective degenerative elite without the need for violent revolution. Again, it offers stability through the natural cycles of anacyclosis described in Plato's Republic.

Whatever human populations accomplish is always driven by whatever their culture thinks is important. The dichotomy you present is too narrow to be any usem

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 21, 2014, 03:23:09 PM »
Did any of you know that DMBM is actually a girl? Thought not.
Damned good looking, too. Why else would I be falling all over myself to assist?

Fixing for a little crow-pulation are we?,

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 20, 2014, 09:04:14 PM »
If you wait long enough, I'll crow-k.
Problem solved.

You're at the age where playing crow-quet is socially acceptable, correct? I feel I shant wait long.

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 20, 2014, 05:42:39 PM »
I'm a recovering crow-ke head. Crow-caine is one hell of a drug.

Interzone / Re: A continual cycle
« on: March 20, 2014, 08:29:27 AM »
NASA: Civilization is Doomed

Technological change can raise the efficiency of resource use, but it also tends to raise both per capita resource consumption and the scale of resource extraction, so that, absent policy effects, the increases in consumption often compensate for the increased efficiency of resource use.

Pull up your chairs, ladies and gentleman; you're getting front row seats for the hottest new apocalypse around!


Efficiency of scale. A thing costs less per unit because they produce a large amount of units. People love to skip the big picture. I don't know why everyone is obsessed over apocalypse though. Civilization in general is in no way doomed, neither is our race in the near future.

Interzone / Re: Meaning? Purpose? Oh yes...
« on: March 19, 2014, 11:16:03 AM »
With regards to fatality, yes life is always fatal, but being cognizant of limits can spare one from an earlier and unnecessarily harsh death.

I mean reasonable growth. It's unwise to expect growth to be the normal activity. As with your spiritual growth, you found a reasonable conclusion and now reside on a sustainable base.

I have a friend who's big into body building. A few years back he hit a plateau on his growth by what could be supported by his already enormous intake of food and nutrition. The next step in his pursuit of growth was the use of steroids. The ill effects caused considerable strain in multiple areas of his life. Not only can he no longer use steroids, but he can no longer afford to maintain the intake required to stay at the level he had formerly experienced a plateau. Thus he has slowly but surely lost his physical growth.

Interzone / Re: Meaning? Purpose? Oh yes...
« on: March 19, 2014, 10:37:55 AM »
There are limits to growth and the consequences of missing those limits are always fatal. Being blessed with a degree of sentience to recognize this simple fact, we can do better than most organisms. The adaption which is responsible for these levels of sentience is stacked utop other layers which readily cause to miss and ignore limits.

Interzone / Re: A continual cycle
« on: March 19, 2014, 07:33:37 AM »
The collapse of the Roman world left sprawling urban centers which, despite their utility, were largely abandoned or stripped for their raw materials. The beauty and utility of something is usually outpaced by the economic requirements of maintence and operation. In the wake of collapse, there is considerably less wealth available to the emerging populations than was when the urban centers were built. Repurposing the raw material or abandoning the cities to meet the pressing needs of the time took precedence and will always take precedence. So it will be with our cities, monuments and technologies.

The microcosm:

When I am dead, my body will be stripped for its raw materials by fungi, bacteria, worms and potentially wildlife if unearthed to be repurposed by those organisms into energy to do whatever work they must do. A far distant relative may stumble upon my bones and fashion ornaments or weapons of war even with little regard for their former constitution.

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 18, 2014, 01:47:46 PM »
I intended to make a somewhat general statement out of it and assumed that the disambiguation was implied by the syntax.

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 18, 2014, 11:48:24 AM »
DMBM is neither cunt nor imbecile, therefore his activity is acceptable in every regard.

Interzone / Re: Now admit it
« on: March 18, 2014, 09:36:38 AM »
All participation is good participation as long as the person doing the participation isn't a cunt and an imbecile.

Interzone / Re: Deleted post.
« on: March 18, 2014, 09:35:16 AM »
I'm not entirely convinced in the reality of closed systems. That seems to be expressive of the limits of logical reasoning. Independence is never absolute. If we are looking at smaller systems, the degree to which they are able to conserve forms is proportional to their complexity - which is proportional to the amount of energy flowing through that system. To tie that into the real world as an example, aboriginal Australians have maintained their culture for many thousands of years, however, their social organization is non-complex, thus it is immune from the entropy rape which topples complex literate civilizations.

I would argue that populations rejuvenate themselves and interject essences of themselves into cultural forms.

Interzone / Re: Deleted post.
« on: March 17, 2014, 08:42:53 AM »
We must resist entropy.

You propose that we resist a mechanism that is hardwired into the nature of reality?

Yes, of course. Gravity is hardwired into reality, and we resist that daily. Reality is deterministic based on choice, but its constants are forces to be displaced. Consider a boat on water: displacement of that water with air makes it float.

Dare I resist the mechanism of water's weight which is hardwired into the nature of reality?

Yes, of course.

I might argue that looking outward for cultural reinvigoration is an attempt to counter cultural entropy because the introduction of another high energy resource into a system is the only mechanism which addresses energy lost.

No different than generating lift to achieve flight.

If you have a method for resisting entropy which doesn't involve the introduction of an external source of high energy into the system to achieve the same result, I'd love to hear it.

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