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Interzone / Re: Too much cruelty?
« on: July 18, 2011, 06:36:46 PM »
"If Dave is mentally retarded or criminal, you might do it to his whole family."

1. It's not about this cruel/uncruel dichotomy. It's about effective results.

2. If the man is a 'tard, he will pass on those defective genes. Kill the fucker. If he has already passed on the genes, kill his family. If you sterilize them, they will resent you and agitate against you, so kill them.

3. Most people are stupid assholes who are cruel by inattention and slovenly mass tastes. Kill them all.

Purge this earth of its proles-of-the-soul and you will have a new plateau for the human species. Also you get to keep your environment and its creatures that way. BONUS!

But, what results are effective? From an objective, scientific biological perspective, effective is about fitness, simple, plain fitness. > 120s are loosing fitness, <120s are gaining it, invariably, Nature keeps winning in any simple blind propagation of genes.

There's a moral component in any fashion of Eugenics, which necessarily includes cruel/uncruel dichotomies and so. You can't simply bring a biological theleology to people's face; our human nature is much more complex than that, we have deeply rooted values that are practical.

Less crime, less poverty through negative (State driven) Eugenics? Ok, let's suppose it. That stills being a long term moral decision.

That's the reason why I think that Nihilism fails.

Well you have to understand, many of the diehards here don't have much to them besides their internet avatars, so there leaves a gap between practicality and idealism. Because many of them are emotionally damaged, it is easier form them to deny the human spirit beyond black & white objectivity.  Not to worry though, there is a reason ANUS has been around since 1988 and has had ZERO impact on civilization, culture or politics beyond textfiles, and the internet. Not once have ANUSians gotten together and had a an impact on any topics. So, while your logic is sound, it really isn't worth your effort to make much sense here, and is in your better interest to blow of steam and troll.

Interzone / Re: Too much cruelty?
« on: July 18, 2011, 06:03:56 PM »
oh and don't forget anybody with STDs!

Interzone / Re: Too much cruelty?
« on: July 18, 2011, 05:47:08 PM »
I'm glad this topic came up. We really need to exterminate anybody with any genetic weaknesses. Even if they are brilliant intellectually, they are a waste if they produce a tard baby or have a family history of physical or mental weaknesses. It should be someone's job to set fire to the hive for anybody with Phenylketonuria, cystic fibrosis, cancer, diabetes, sickle cell disease, Bloom Syndrome, Canavan Disease, Cystic Fibrosis, Familial Dysautonomia, Fanconi Anemia, Gaucher Disease, Mucolipidosis Type IV, Niemann-Pick Disease, Tay-Sachs Disease, open neural tube defects, or turner syndrome to name a few because they are a severe drains of time and resources.

Interzone / Re: Increasing vocabulary
« on: June 20, 2011, 06:59:56 AM »
with Anu Garg

To mark the 400 years of translation of the King James Version of the Bible this year. Earlier we featured five people from the Bible who have become words in the English language.

This week we feature another set of five words. Now it's the turn of five places that have taken root as metaphors in the language.

What's in the Bible may surprise most people, even those who believe they know it. In a recent item on CNN, Rabbi Rami Shapiro says, "Most people who profess a deep love of the Bible have never actually read the book." How much do you know about the "Good Book"? Try this Bible quiz.


1. A place or occasion of great suffering.
2. A burial place.

After Golgotha, the hill near Jerusalem believed to be the site of Jesus's crucifixion. From Latin, from Greek golgotha, from Aramaic gulgulta, from Hebrew gulgolet (skull). The hill was perhaps named from the resemblance of its shape to a skull. Earliest documented use: 1597.

"The attack has turned the once peaceful serenity of a plateau state to a Golgotha."
Chris Agbiti; How Not to Govern a Volatile State; Vanguard (Apapa, Nigeria); Apr 1, 2011.

Explore "golgotha" in the Visual Thesaurus.

It is the certainty that they possess the truth that makes men cruel. -Anatole France, novelist, essayist, Nobel laureate (1844-1924)


A.Word.A.Day by email:

Today's word of the day. Apparently listening to good metal can increase your vocab too.

Metal / Norway to train diplomats in black metal
« on: June 09, 2011, 07:23:11 AM »
The government of Norway has begun offering training for foreign diplomats in black metal, following a reported rise in global interest in the genre.


Not sure how to feel about this. While it's great that black metal has been deemed important enough for diplomats to learn about, and I'm not exactly sure what principles will be taught, I would hope they did their research, and not get all their info from Dimmu Borgir.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: May 26, 2011, 07:08:54 AM »
Part of the problem in my opinion is that historically metal has always been the counter-culture. From the 70's through the mid 90's, metal was good at targeting the most predominant degenerative culture and smashing it which kept it relevant.

The 70's had hippies, so out grew Black Sabbath
The 80's had Pro-life Christian Conservatives, so out grew Slayer
The early 90's had directionless, culture-less lemmings & hipsters, so out grew Burzum.

Since then I feel like metal has been reinventing the wheel as far as being the counter-culture and also not bringing much new enough to the table. Not that metal needs to up the ante to be more extreme, but it needs to correctly identify the largest enemy to civilization, and go in a direction that shakes the spirit of the dominant ideology.  What this is, I have no idea, I'm not a musician. Obviously, society has gotten used to black & death metal and are pretty comfortable with it.  I just know that when Burzum, Emperor, & Darkthrone start getting sold at Hot Topic (which happened a long time ago) we need to go in another direction with the metal spirit.

Interzone / Re: Thinking about death.
« on: April 19, 2011, 10:57:40 AM »
"The world is like a ride at an amusement park. It goes up and down and round and round. It has thrills and chills and it's very brightly coloured and it's very loud and it's fun, for a while. Some people have been on the ride for a long time, and they begin to question: Is this real, or is this just a ride? And other people have remembered, and they come back to us, they say, "Hey - don't worry, don't be afraid, ever, because, this is just a ride..." But we always kill those good guys who try and tell us that, you ever notice that? And let the demons run amok. Jesus - murdered; Martin Luther King - murdered; Malcolm X - murdered; Gandhi - murdered; John Lennon - murdered; Reagan... wounded. But it doesn't matter because: It's just a ride. And we can change it anytime we want. It's only a choice. No effort, no work, no job, no savings and money. A choice, right now, between fear and love. The eyes of fear want you to put bigger locks on your doors, buy guns, close yourself off. The eyes of love, instead, see all of us as one. Here's what we can do to change the world, right now, to a better ride. Take all that money that we spend on weapons and defenses each year and instead spend it feeding and clothing and educating the poor of the world, which it would many times over, not one human being excluded, and we could explore space, together, both inner and outer, forever, in peace. "-Bill Hicks
Today a young man on acid realized that all matter is merely energy condensed to a slow vibration, that we are all one consciousness experiencing itself subjectively, there is no such thing as death, life is only a dream, and we are the imagination of ourselves.-Bill Hicks

Interzone / Re: Thinking about death.
« on: April 17, 2011, 09:14:23 AM »
Here's the thing about death. It's something that everybody and every thing does eventually. It's not special.  Therefore, it's not something to be too concerned about.  There are literally hundreds of thousands of theories about what happens after life, but really who knows.  Death can only be delayed, not stopped. So if death is inevitable, and if you're honest with yourself, what happens afterward is a mystery, then there really is nothing to worry about. Enjoying life is what's important.

Metal / American: The Bill Hicks Story
« on: April 02, 2011, 08:34:12 AM »
Three years in the making, AMERICAN: The Bill Hicks Story brings the tale of one of modern culture’s most iconic heroes to the big screen.

Much more than a comedian, Bill Hicks was and still is an inspiration to millions. His timeless comedy tackled the contradictions of America and modern life head on. But his unique gift was to tease apart the essence of religion, the dangers of unbridled government power and the double standards inherent in much of modern society, using nothing but his hilarious ideas and the uncompromising observational style that continues to resonate with successive generations.

Like many who have a strong sense of their place in history, Hicks left a large unseen legacy; his collection of video recordings and hundreds of photographs and these became the starting point for this feature-length animated documentary.

But why animation? Bill Hicks’ complex story had never been adequately told and this demanded pushing documentary storytelling in a new direction to boldly recreate the key unseen scenes of Bill’s life and, for the first time fully reveal the worlds that shaped his character and his comedy. Real locations, such as the bedroom window he snuck out of to perform with comedy partner Dwight Slade, the dark alleys of Houston where he nearly met his end, and the spellbinding theatre auditoriums where he played his most famous concerts; are all meticulously recreated in stunning three dimensional photorealism to provide a fresh new sense of the challenges the lone comedian faces and a real sense of what his journey was like.

Bill’s story is told by the 10 people who knew him best; his family and closest friends who recount the twists & turns of his life with a freshness that hasn’t faded in 15 years. From Kevin Booth, Bill’s talented lifelong friend to the Outlaw Comics who introduced Bill into their heady world of drugs & alcohol, to photographer David Johndrow who perceptively captures some of the most revelatory moments of Bill’s life, each speaker is a compelling narrator who still carries a piece of Bill with them and, woven together, they bring a palpable sense of Bill’s presence to the screen.

Their story provides the platform for Bill’s own voice and for the first time, his 17 years of material are combined in a powerful chronology with his offstage journey. With each of his routines now bedded in the context of his life, a fascinating insight into the growth and development of an artist is revealed, as Bill’s early character work found first a comedic aim and then a truly powerful voice when he beat addiction to enthrall and challenge audiences, often touring 300 nights a year.

Recreating Bill’s story has been a journey all of it’s own; traveling all across America to record extensive new interviews, watching hundreds of performances and developing the animation technique over thousands of hours to fully realize the cinematic vision required. With a little help and a few orbits of the sun, these raw materials – video clips, photographs & personal recollections – have now been put together to recreate a full sense of Bill’s life, ambitions and achievements and a lasting testament as to why he will remain one of the enduring cultural cornerstones of our age.

Official Trailer

Official Site

Official Release April 8, 2011

I've been looking forward to this movie for a long time. I thought Hicks was a genius. If anybody has a chance to see this movie, please post your thoughts and comments here. Thanks!

Interzone / Re: Education: a sham
« on: March 01, 2011, 11:44:23 AM »
If I'm not mistaken, intelligence is pretty much crystallized by 18 years of age. So if you grew up watching 8 hours of tv a day and fed a crappy diet, it would be very difficult to expect much improvement by the start of college. Putting more people who grew up like this in college when they shouldn't be, is just going to create more and more student debt.

Interzone / Pennsylvania school experiments with 'segregation'
« on: January 28, 2011, 08:59:04 AM »
The initiative is a pilot program intended to capitalize on "enriching students' experiences through mentoring" and is derived from school research "that shows grouping black students by gender with a strong role model can help boost their academic achievement and self esteem," according to a statement from McCaskey East High School in Lancaster.

"Educators immediately noticed strong bonds being formed between all students and mentor teachers," the statement said.


While the knee-jerk reaction may be negative, if it's improving student's self esteem and test scores, I don't see what the harm is. I don't think anybody is willing to go back to the days in America of "Whites Only" or "Blacks Only", but giving students a chance to associate with their own race and culture without always being forced to associate with ones they can't relate to, seems like a healthy thing to me.

Metal / Reclaiming (Or Replacing) “The Goat”
« on: January 10, 2011, 07:24:08 PM »
Over the past few years, we metallers have seen our special sigil—the goat horn—stripped of its significance (i.e., magical power) by clueless celebrities (Miley Cyrus gets it wrong first then gets it right second) and pop culture junkies looking add ‘edge’ to their persona. That ‘edge’ they seek is, or rather was, ours. True, I’ve seen movie and television stars in Maiden, Priest, and Baroness shirts, but it’s hard to tell if they, like us, revere those bands like gods or are meddling in mundane hipster irony. Probably the latter. Occasionally, the Earth parts and I feel ‘good’ about peeps in high places repping the darkest of metals—often willingly exposed by dB’s Closet Metalhead feature (see Jeanne Fury’s Cee Lo Green intie)—but usually my suspicions are confirmed. Dorks like Lindsay Lohan, Justin Bieber, Rihanna, and Kid Rock show the maloik, as popularized by the late great Ronnie James Dio, for no other reason than to appear ‘dangerous’. Milk in cereal poses a greater threat.
So, maybe it’s time we retire the maloik and the reverse maloik.

We’ll have to be intensely creative to come up with something new. Options are damned sparse. We’ll have to avoid sign language configurations—don’t want our new sigil to unintentionally translate to ‘cucumber’ or ‘fail’—and gang sign configurations—don’t want to be gunned down outside a club (hello, Harpo’s in Detroit) for hoisting our new digit designation—in our pursuit of a replacement for the oft-misused maloik. Whatever we come up with, just don’t let it be the Witchery ‘W’.


Does this symbol formerly used by metal heroes lose or have any value when hollywood celebrities and hipsters misuse it as a petty means for teenage rebellion?  I don't know if I agree with Decibel that a new symbol needs to be devised as it is easy enough to reroute any symbol's meaning, but I can't help but feel that it's association with metal is being diminished with its use.  This leads me to question whether metal still needs this symbol?

Some metallers have been diverting to a more offensive symbol, that you are unlikely to see many celebrities and hipsters use in public, but I don't see this as becoming a substitute for saluting metal.

What do you think? Are the "horns" still relevant?

Interzone / Re: Good popular music
« on: December 10, 2010, 08:05:06 PM »
R.E.M. 's early 1980's stuff through "Life's rich pageant", before they became an emo hipster band is pretty decent.


Interzone / Re: How to kill your soul
« on: November 28, 2010, 08:16:08 AM »
Quit.  Get a job that you like.  Then you can be healthy and enjoy your life.

I don't think it's that simple for everyone, but you're essentially right.  I started doing this 3 years ago. Unfortunately, it's costing me 5 more years of schooling to get to where I want to be, but being where I was easily could have turned into an early grave.  Luckily for me, I didn't have any major attachments (children, mortgage, credit card debt) that would get me into trouble if I just woke up and just "Quit." and got a job I liked.  I don't know what people who have these things would do if they found themselves in a job they loathe and wanted to a career 180.

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