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Interzone / Mainstream artists attempt to revalue music
« on: April 04, 2014, 06:35:10 AM »

Wu Tang Clan is putting out a new album, limited to one copy, sold to the highest bidder who may then do whatever they want with it.

"While we fully embrace the advancements in music technology, we feel it has contributed to the devaluation of music as an art form. By taking this step, we hope to re-enforce the weight that music once carried alongside a painting or a sculpture. The album will be put on listening display in renowned galleries, museums, venues and exhibition spaces around the world for only the most dedicated to experience before it disappears into the private collection of a buyer. The public will know that what they will hear will be a once in a lifetime experience"

"A new approach is introduced, one where the pride and joy of sharing music with the masses is sacrificed for the benefit of reviving music as a valuable art and inspiring debate about its future among musicians, fans and the industry that drives it."

I'm not a huge fan of hip hop, but this is at least an interesting attempt on Wu Tangs part. Also probably the closest any mainstream artist has ever come to elitism and catering to a selective audience, the way early black metal bands did. Of course Wu Tang can afford to do it because their legacy as a pioneering rap act has already been cemented, they have steady income from shows/endorsements/etc and really nothing to lose. Only an artist of substantial reputation could do this, and they'll probably make more money than they would had they just released the thing.

I agree that digital distribution has in some ways cheapened the value of recorded music and fans have come to regard albums as disposable and interchangeable. This is why I still buy CDs - it establishes a closer relationship between me and the music.

Unfortunately, it'll probably be some corporation like Best Buy etc who buys it, to use in some cheap promo arrangement - "buy a new pair of Beats Headphones, get the album" etc

Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: March 31, 2014, 08:30:14 AM »
Some home recordings I've played on:

Empyrium/Tenhi style neofolk:

black/death metal "epic":

ad hoc Summoning knockoff:

Metal / Re: Industrial/EBM
« on: March 31, 2014, 08:20:16 AM »
A lot of modern EBM industrial is too predictable to be very exciting - hardly ever deviates from the basic verse/chorus structure. VNV Nation has stronger melodies but weak vocals. Some older groups, especially Skinny Puppy, had a more organic sound.


Also try Coil - initially had industrial elements, went on to make other styles of experimental/electronic music. These tracks are highly recommended, probably higher than anything else I could recommend to anyone:

The Dreamer is Still Asleep:

Dark River(Autechre remix):


Amethyst Deceivers:

Metal / Re: Top tier metal of the last decade (2003 - 2013)
« on: March 26, 2014, 06:59:11 AM »
Summoning - OMD, Oath Bound
Graveland - Cold Winter Blades, Fire Chariot of Destruction
The Chasm - Farseeing...., Spell of Retribution
Skepticism - Alloy, Farmakon
Sorcier Des Glaces - Moonrise, Puressence of Primitive Forests
Lord Wind - Atlantean Monument, Ales Stenar
Morgion - Cloaked By Ages, Crowned in Earth
Beherit - Engram
The new Empyrium when it is released
Key of Throne was a damn good album, agreed

not really the mainstream media, more of a blog.

Metal / Re: Power Metal
« on: February 17, 2014, 08:36:19 AM »
I hate Savatage after having had the misfortune to listen to The Wake of Magellan, the gayest metal album I have ever heard: www.youtube.com/watch?v=7k1TMhUxEgY

That album is balls, Hall oft he Mountain King is cheesy but solid - the old guitarist who wrote all their good music died in 1993 hence the drop in quality. They eventually turned into Trans Siberian Orchestra, that ridiculous "Christmas rock band"

Metal / Re: Best use of Vinyl and CD formats
« on: February 11, 2014, 02:45:51 PM »
Vinyl is just too impractical for being on the move; so is CD really. Most of my music is on my iphone, even in the car I hook it in the AUX port. I know it's lame but it really does make sense when many of your CDs are rare, OOP, first presses, collectible etc.

I don't care if my smart phone gets stolen, I can just buy another exactly like it the next day. I would flip the fuck out if I lost my old copies of Immense Intense Suspense, Slaughtersun, Finis Malorum, Det Frysende Nordariket, Ames De Marbre, A Velvet Creation, Oneiricon, Folkoric Necro Metal, Nespithe, Blod Draum, Sorrow, Thousand Swords with the BW cover etc.

Metal / Re: Power Metal
« on: February 07, 2014, 09:26:15 PM »
Bruce Dickinson's late 90s solo work is worth a mention - most of his solo albums are mediocre, but the two with Adrian Smith (Accident of Birth and The Chemical Wedding) are fucking brilliant. I actually like them better than any Iron Maiden albums. See what you think:



Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: February 04, 2014, 11:17:58 PM »
Where does stuff like robo and PCP fit in? Somewhere between phantastica and inebriata?

I suspect Inebriata/Euphorica. Both PCP and DXM are classified as dissociative hallucinogens (NMDA receptor antagonists), as is Nitrous Oxide.

What exactly does Nitrous Oxide do? I've never given it a try and my drug taking days are pretty much over.

Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: February 04, 2014, 07:27:04 PM »
Where does stuff like robo and PCP fit in? Somewhere between phantastica and inebriata?

Interzone / Re: What is love?
« on: February 04, 2014, 04:47:53 PM »
I'm surprised the thread made it this far before devolving into the inevitable Haddaway jokes.

No, but I went to college just across the border in WA and did a lot of hiking and camping around BC. The "grouse grind" was one of my favorites although the mosquitoes were brutal up there during the warmer months.

Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: February 03, 2014, 10:27:25 PM »
I'd still put it way ahead of IX Eq, that one was the pit for me. Remember that Pantera sounding song, "The Warriors of Modern Death"? The worst moments on Anthems are a fucking artistic goldmine next to that.

Prometheus just sounds like it was made by robots; its not even a factor.

Metal / Re: Most black metal is fake
« on: February 02, 2014, 09:11:28 PM »
Some of the riffs are nice too, even on Prometheus, but the final product...

Both those albums are without focus, but am I the only one who thought Anthems was kind of decent? Sure it's not essential like previous works, and has some shitty moments where the whole thing descends into a blur of noise, but the last half of the album (especially "With Strength I Burn") is really quite good IMO.

I used to listen to Anthems a lot, but I don't remember that I had heard it thoroughly without falling asleep.

Start the disc on track 5, that''s what I always do.

but how many of these women watch the entire show without being clucking like chickens (for poser is the same).
I would say from my own experience, talking and being in the scene that 95% are total posers. They just want to date  the hot guy with long hair in the band. I swear, their opening line is " Do you listen to Metallica, their like, my favorite band"! For some reason I have the same response, pause, head tilt, slight smile "uh yeah I like Metallica". I do like Metallica's older music, but jesus fucking christ.

Theres a certain type of girl who likes to put herself into places where she's surrounded by dudes just to prop up her fragile ego. Auto body shops, metal shows, computer programming classes, whatever. Like the female equivalent of some sad guy who hangs out with all women and is "just one of the girls".

Bitches like that are the reason why when I do attend metal shows, I keep my hair short and rock polo shirts and other nerdy looking clothes. My favorite shirt to wear when I play my own shows is blue and says: "Grouse Mountain - the Peak of British Columbia".

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