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Metal / Re: Live Dissection Comparison
« on: June 29, 2010, 04:00:31 PM »
The 2005 Dissection live DVD is amazing, easily as good as Live Legacy. Although I disliked Reinkaos as well, they were still a potent live band. The session musicians he got to fill in were as good as the Somberlain/Storm... lineup and Jon still had the energy and passion.

I was watching that DVD once when my father came over to visit. Even he admitted it was an excellent performance. That says something, coming from a classical enthusiast in his late 50s who dislikes metal.

Metal / Re: Sludge Metal suggestions
« on: June 27, 2010, 08:30:50 PM »
I don't like any of those bands, but you might enjoy Neurosis. Souls at Zero and Enemy of the Sun are good albums.

Metal / Re: The "Bad" Immortal Albums. Are we asking too much?
« on: June 27, 2010, 08:26:47 PM »
I wouldn't consider "At The Heart of Winter" a bad album by any means... it may have traditional metal influences all over it but there is room in the world for the occasional retro-influenced album. I tend to lump that album in with Darkthrone's "Panzerfaust" as a good, but not groundbreaking release. Everything after that was boring, though.

Metal / Re: Ildjarn: Last Man Standing
« on: June 27, 2010, 08:23:16 PM »
The Ildjarn works I mostly come back to are Ildjarn-Niddhog, Hardangervidda, Sort Vokter, Strength & Anger, Det Frysende Nordariket, Forest Poetry, Landscapes... Wait a minute...

If you're complaining that Ildjarn isn't musical enough than I think you're missing the point. Except for the ambient works, I don't think it "expresses" anything that one can put into words. It exudes the primitive, primordial, basic, simple; and it does it in a way that is convincing and hypnotic. If you sit there and over analyze his music, or try to find something meaningful in individual songs or riffs, you probably won't. Let yourself experience it.

I let myself experience it I didn't get much out of it. Then I tried again. And again.

Then I looked for an explanation as to why it doesn't work for me.

The things I've said are the best I can do to explain it.

Agreed for the most part. The only Ildjarn I ever liked was the first EP of "Det Frysende Nordariket"... most of his music, including Forest Poetry, is just too simple to express much. Although, I do like the song the person above posted from Youtube. I might have to check this one out more.

I guess that's why they call it the "Forbidden Journey" - fat fucks are forbidden to enjoy the ride.

Interzone / Re: Alternatives to mindless pleasure
« on: June 27, 2010, 03:20:44 AM »
I thought of some loose ends on dopamine addiction. At the moment, through porn, games, and drugs, anyone in the industrialized world has the option to slide into unproductive pleasure. Without these technologies, some people can still do this, but only if they have very strong imaginations. In civilized culture, these are the "dreamers", and a few become great artists and philosophers. In primitive culture, these must be the people who become shamans.

Some questions: If you use your own imagination to self-administer dopamine, in what ways does this make you stronger than if you were to do the same thing with external tools? In industrial society, is it better to get pleasure through solitary daydreaming, than by engaging with other people in "useful" activities that are mostly harmful? Is there anything we get pleasure from anymore, that is unquestionably good? And now that everyone can get dopamine-addicted, how do we play the advantage of having a strong imagination?

- Ran Prieur

Porn? Don't need it because my girlfriend is amazing. Games? Play them with my siblings but not excessively. Drugs? Do them with close friends or alone but only once in a while.

Never thought I'd experience this personally, but recently being in touch with the "creative" and "interesting" people I knew in high school and college ("artists", "musicians", "thinkers"), most of them now:

* Have not been in a sexual relationship for over four years (what the fuck?)
* Play games or watch movies way too much
* Smoke weed every single day and become bored or irritated like little brats if the social night's agenda is something other than sitting around smoking weed
* Have produced little

This is not another "I'm / we're so well behaved and everyone else is going down hill!" thread. This is a "how do we have a social life if the people to socialize with are becoming bitter burnouts?" thread.

How do we get people to be constructive again? Am I expecting too much? Am I being too optimistic? Am I being too "liberal"? Time to start community events / organizations? Any thoughts?

You need to do a little spring cleaning; stop associating with anyone who fits this bill. I used to be surrounded by "friends" like this until I realized they were dragging me down and quickly cut them out of my life. My life has greatly improved in every way imaginable.

Interzone / Re: Red states buy more porn online
« on: June 20, 2010, 11:35:54 PM »
Most "conservatives" today aren't really conservative in nature, they're neoconservatives - who are as valueless and degenerate as any liberal. The sleazy, macho blue-collar types that typify your modern Reagan/Bush-era Republican would have no issue with buying tons of porn. The true fundamentalist Evangelicals are a minority even in most "red" areas.

Metal / Re: Metal 2009
« on: May 23, 2010, 08:13:46 PM »
Asphyx, Beherit and The Chasm were the year's best. Nothing else was really that essential.

Metal / Re: Lost Art of the Black Metal Poem
« on: December 03, 2009, 01:07:04 AM »
Summoning - Orthanc comes to mind

Metal / Re: At the Gates - With Fear I Kiss the Burning Darkness
« on: November 30, 2009, 09:59:18 PM »
I fail to detect the Pantera influence. It's a great album, just inconsistent. The first half is brilliant, among the best work ATG has ever done and easily on par with any of their previous work. The long, slowly-unfolding dual guitar melodies and rollercoaster time changes in tunes like "Non-Divine" and "The Break of Autumn" are classic.

The last half drops in quality. It soundsl ike a mix between Reign In Blood and early 80s hardcore. The Discharge cover hidden at the end doesn't sound out of place at all. Not bad music, but after hearing what they can do on the first side of the album it just pales. The title track is impressive, though.

Overall TRITSIO is better just because all the songs are great, but I'd never dare to shit-talk this album. It's written by Alf Svensson, so the level of compositional skill at its peak moments is beyond nearly anything else in death metal. Yeah, the production does suck though... very thin guitar but at least the separation is good.

Metal / Re: Refreshing Metal Albums
« on: November 29, 2009, 01:24:13 AM »
Therion - Ho Drakon Ho Megas.

I had always misidentified this album as part of Therion's newer style, but the Necrolord artwork and $3.99 used store price tag convinced me to give it a spin and I'm glad I did. Add this to the list of Celtic Frost-influenced albums that are better than anything Celtic Frost actually did.

Metal / Re: Hipsters Fight Back
« on: November 28, 2009, 11:30:10 PM »
I'm not even going to read any of this garbage. I'd rather slit my own throat with a butter knife than lower myself to the level of arguing with hipsters on the internet. This argument is just like hipsters themselves - useless, unproductive, and a waste of time.

LOL@ Chaosgoatlaw - you're friends with a hipster?!

Interzone / Re: Militarism, Masculinity, Metalheads
« on: November 23, 2009, 04:50:53 PM »

Basically, this is what I'm going for, to start with: http://www.army.mod.uk/UOTC/5458.aspx

That looks good. I wish I had joined that sort of thing while in university. I went to an information session while in school about the air force, but I didn't like the culture of kissing your supervisor's ass to get a promotion and moving up the ranks. If I had done it it would have been for skill-development and companionship.

You will find the same culture in any corporate job.

Metal / Re: Overrated.
« on: November 10, 2009, 04:41:21 PM »
I don't mean to be a thread necromancer, but I can't believe that nobody mentioned Countess -- there's absolutely nothing subtle or deep about this band. Riffs are generic and of the two albums I've heard, everything just sort of drones together unremarkably. Never cared for Asphyx either for most of the same reasons. Is it something in the water in the Netherlands or what?

Agreed. I listened to black metal for years without even hearing of this band, but browsed through some forum where they were frequently mentioned alongside Burzum, Darkthrone, and other canonical groups. I checked them out, typical worthless three-chord drum machine "kvlt" black metal in the modern style. Fuck this band.

Asphyx is slightly overrated, but I wouldn't throw them in the same shitheap as Countess.

Metal / Re: Conservative metal band cut off at the Whisky
« on: October 10, 2009, 05:27:16 PM »
Good. If only someone had done the same with Iced Earth.

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