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Interzone / Re: The death of extreme islam in the west
« on: March 24, 2010, 08:16:58 PM »
The only thing that will happen is that Wahabist Islam would declare them too as Kuffur (heretics) and mandate a Jihad against them.

Interzone / Re: Eugenics
« on: March 15, 2010, 05:38:49 AM »
You know, although "massive 'tard death" is a good idea, we shouldn't be childish about it - it doesn't have to be NOW, but we can the LaBruzzo thing, which was aimed at making life more difficult for the unfit to the point they won't have children, and disproportionetaly reward the successful.

Interzone / Re: Eugenics
« on: March 08, 2010, 07:16:57 AM »
1.  One needs to be careful not to turn this into an elevation of your own ego.  Your genes aren't automatically worthy just because you read Nietzsche.  Eugenics is supposed to be for the long term benefit of human civilization, so that it might have the potential to achieve more, and just because you argue for it doesn't necessarily mean the future needs your genes, or mine.
2.  War, from a completely non-moral standpoint is generally dysgenic rather than eugenic.  The heroic, though more likely to survive battle because of prowess, are also more equally likely to thrust themselves into dangerous situations because of their bravery.  This is not however an argument for general pacificism, or denigrating any of the value of war.
3.  In addition, unless you've amassed your chosen 10% of humanity into an army to kill the Untermenschen, you risk destroying many genetically good people along with the bad, and not having enough people to start repopulating your chosen traits, should you succeed in your crusade at all.
4.  Actually implementing this counts on one of two things: the slow shaping of a culture where people have enough of a desire for the greatness of their civilization, and a sense of their smallness to cooperate with eugenic policies (which in that case would not involve killing outright, except for criminals, etc.), and not have children, or alternatively a situation of the above point #3.
5.  Situation #3, while worth attempting for, is practically difficult if not close to impossible (but that's just a matter of effort).

1. Always an interesting topic. The thing about a eugenicist society is that it allows you to prove your genetic worth (to it) and not you monetary worth (to others), so even if your genes are not top-of-the-line you might be able to compensate through hard work and discipline, which might also be genetic, who knows?
2. There is a way to make war eugenic - "The pawns go first".
3. If you're going to make an omlette you'll have to break a few eggs, and yes, you might lose it all, but what could you gain if you succeed?
4. Each group has different incentives. Some people understand threats, some understand money, some understand vision. Know how to sell yourself (this is probably the jew speaking in me)
5. The irony in uniting your 10% is that they are getting into bed just to get out of it as soon as those pesky untermenschen are out of the way. Perhaps it could be organized more locally, like cells in each country who work for the meta-goal defining their own courses of acting. A bit like a terrorist organization.

Interzone / Re: Eugenics
« on: March 07, 2010, 10:22:19 PM »
I'm not buying into the "you'll lose your workforce" arguments. Yes, society needs its parsley pickers, but it does not need a group of over priveleged, sissy, scrawny, lazy, weak and pale stuck ups who can't go out there, get their hands dirty and raise their own food. In issue number three (http://interestingtimesmagazine.com/index.html) there's an interesting article on how much time a person needs to spend on cultivating food for himself. On the rest of it you could creat a glorious civilization and stop bitching


Interzone / Re: Scotch Whisky
« on: March 04, 2010, 04:53:05 PM »
I recommend you try Laphroaig. It has a smokey, peaty flavor and makes me think of a burned church on a shore. Makes me feel contemplative, as opposed to irish whiskey which is more soothing, and jack daniel's which tastes like motor oil.

Thanks, I originally didn't like the Islay malts as much, but I'm becoming more interested in them now.  How would you say Laphroaig would compare with say, Bowmore on the one hand and Lagavulin on the other.

I could compate it to Lagavulin from information I've been picking around, I haven't tried it yet. It's supposed to have a richer, smoother, and fuller taste, something like Laphroaig's older cousin.
Azzuro also gave thought to the subject.
I haven't heard of Bowmore, but it's not surprising, I don't have much access to whiskies down here. Crazy taxes.

Interzone / Re: Scotch Whisky
« on: March 03, 2010, 07:50:50 PM »
I recommend you try Laphroaig. It has a smokey, peaty flavor and makes me think of a burned church on a shore. Makes me feel contemplative, as opposed to irish whiskey which is more soothing, and jack daniel's which tastes like motor oil.

Interzone / Re: Introductions
« on: February 23, 2010, 10:24:28 PM »
Ben, 20, from the hellhole we like to call Israel. Flute and bass player. I've been introduced to ANUS and CORRUPT when I was 14, just about the time I seriously got into esoterics and chaos phylosophy, which helped make my mind flexible enough to understand the ideas presented here. I've practiced some martial arts in the past, mostly Karate, but also Muai Thai and Ninjitsu. Currently working in a book store, and would probably begin my academic studies in August in elecrical engineering. Trying to find a way in this mess of a country and to reconcile a very mixed heritage, judaism, and hessian values.

Interzone / Re: The inversion diet
« on: February 19, 2010, 11:26:38 PM »
A little amusing, yes.

You could call my diet the "Growing Boy" diet, which is basically oatmeal and fruit for breakfast, and a serious meal every 4 hours or so.

Does your diet sustain your energy requirements? What are they and how are they balanced by the diet?

Interzone / Re: The Dawning Age of Lifeless Sterility
« on: February 04, 2010, 12:22:32 AM »
Something about nanotech not many might have concidered - nano pollution. A bunch of structures which nature has no idea of to take apart, some of them could last forever. Take silicone needles for example. They're one atom thik, and could puncture a cell like a hot knife would cut through butter. They could just float around in your body until you die of cancer when you're 25. There's a lot of irresponisible utalitarianism backing it up, we could end up with a whole new pollution problem on our hands.
It's just more things to sell.

Interzone / Re: Your thoughts on the use of the Atomic Bomb
« on: January 31, 2010, 07:51:36 AM »
As for the Atomic Bomb, I find guns to be dishonourable, so you can probably guess what I think about bombs in general.

Although I feel the same way about guns and bombs, the A-bomb has got its charm, something to do with the total annihalation it brings. The problem with it is that it is an absolute weapon which destroys everything. You can't take the land or homes or the people, they are all contaminated.
So, unless its a fucking desert and you could care less about that place, I would recommend against it.

Interzone / Re: 2081 - Finally Equal
« on: January 28, 2010, 06:32:55 AM »
Good to know that the book is good. I'll check it out. I'm just afraid that the movie portraits a repressive government that doesn't let the common man to be an aristocrat, not precisely the aristocrat to be an aristocrat.

Not quite possible, as you've seen in the trailet, it's the smart that wear head-piece, beatiful that wear masks, and the strong wear weights. If society was working against these tendencies from birth, than these are purely genetic. We can almost be certain this film is about the aristocrats\leaders being opressed by the mob mentality.

And if it isn't, we could always mail-bomb their offices

Interzone / Re: GM Foods
« on: January 18, 2010, 10:28:29 PM »
On the same issue, the film Bullshit, following Vandana Shiva, a hindu anti-globalist anti-capitalist activist. She actually got a few things done

Interzone / Re: Nazis and Nationalism
« on: January 14, 2010, 11:40:05 PM »
As long as you're "opressed" you can practically hold any views and dodge all criticism. Take the Israeli\Arab conflict for example. Hamas is far more a racist ethnic cleansing movement than the Lechi were (a jewish terrorist group in Israel in the 30's and 40's that wanted to establish a racist imperialist theocracy), and non of them come under criticism fire, why? They are the "opressed", however, Israel, keeping its enemies at bay, instead of whiping them out completely in the good old Mechiavellian way come under criticism all the time. This is why the Basques aren't really being taken seriously, and Neo-Nazis won't get anywere, they are either percieved as victims with silly dreams or view themselves as some sort of victims (of Jews nontheless) and people just view their ideas as backwards.
Most people, even those who like lying to themselves to feel better, hold such views to some extent. But if you call it as it is, you're over reacting. We need in some way to de-demonize Nazism so it won't be regarded as "The Darkest Chapter In Human History", and make sure the word nazi couldn't be used as a weapon. Besides, I always like to go over people's views with them, and at the end I say, "Well, that's nationality?" and they say "yes," and "Is that Socialism?" "off course!" "So.... You're a National Socialist?"

Metal / Re: Indian classical music
« on: January 14, 2010, 11:26:08 PM »
I've recently downloaded a very interesting collectiotn through this torrent http://isohunt.com/torrent_details/15769103/indian+classical?tab=summary
I really liked G.S. Sachdev, makes me want to read the Gita all day long. It takes a lot of getting used to its sounds and phonological jargon, so I'm still only exploring his works. When I'm through it I'll move on to other stuff off that collection.

Interzone / Re: INTP, INTJ - Which is more Aspie?
« on: January 14, 2010, 09:00:57 PM »
I'm not surprised to see that I'm INTJ and scored high as Neurotypical. However, for a person who knows himself this test won't shed a new light on his personality, maybe help define\understand it.  I'm wondering what conclusions I could make from my results and how I could apply them. Same for all of you folks.

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