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Interzone / Re: What is 'Wisdom', anyway?
« on: September 23, 2012, 09:25:32 PM »
Go on: go with it.
What other ideas occur to you, on this?
They don't have to 'make sense' in everyday terms.
This is cutting edge spiritual research.
This could go all over the place, so I'll stick to the immediate:
Assuming the hypothesis is true, this means wisdom is associated with a structural aspect of the mind and that knowledge emerges from the conscious mind and other unconscious elements utilizing this structure.

Another immediate extension: Since nature is a cruel bitch that bends everything towards her will, there should be a natural tendency towards properly tuning the filters with age and experience. However, the influence of culture (and related phenomena) could vary. Culture "in tune" with reality will aid this process and help maintain the integrity of the structure; culture "out of tune" will compromise the integrity of the structure.

This could naturally be extended to spread light on certain things. Given that there is a general tendency of this process associated with age, we can see that certain politics (specifically conservative) are correlated with this phenomenon. Similarly, others (like liberalism) are inversely related. The conflict between a naturally forming conservative structure with liberal ideology will create internal cognitive dissonance. This will produce bizarre thought patterns and possibly suffering. It's known that conservatives generally report being happier than liberals. (This thread of thought could obviously be continued.)

This also raises a question about how artificial environments could affect this process. This would directly explain the need for certain institutions (especially universities) to have an insulated and isolated nature. In order to counteract the natural tuning, people must be isolated and forced into narrow environments that only (and constantly) reinforce whatever ideology is being used for indoctrination (e.g. political correctness). (This too could continue.)

There are a number of questions that arise. However, without proper empirical investigation, it's difficult to know where to go with it. I'll have to consider this more before making another contribution of thought. I think alternate perspectives might also help shed some light.

Interzone / Re: What is 'Wisdom', anyway?
« on: September 23, 2012, 07:58:15 PM »
Often, when I write, I am not conscious of any thought-process taking place.


It seems I know very little, consciously, but that I have access to a vast store of knowledge, when necessary, and this store is accessed with no 'thought' whatsoever.

Thus I imagine that wisdom has a lot to do with accepting reality without mentally modifying it.
Using what-is, as-is, without guile or bias.
This raises an interesting empirical question. It's well established that the mind subconsciously filters information prior to any awareness. These filters are malleable and can be altered by culture and experience. Wisdom is therefore possibly related to experience slowly tuning these filters/lenses/whatever to the right settings, such that our brains are adjusted to viewing things more closely to how they are instead of a warped and distorted view.

This is admittedly rather speculator and simplified pop-psychology, but there must be something to it.

Interzone / Re: War Against the Wise: Divide and Conquer
« on: September 23, 2012, 12:03:16 AM »
I haven't been to church in over a decade and have seen many churches filled with ideological garbage, but the remaining sane ones may be the answer. Churches are one of the last places where traditional culture and heritage don't have a bad name. At the very least, this would imply they are the institutions for which the effort to restore is minimal. Also, they have some of the most interconnectedness to other institutions (e.g. schools) and have an inherently social dynamic.

Interzone / Re: What is 'Wisdom', anyway?
« on: September 22, 2012, 11:54:56 PM »
Something worth mentioning, which hasn't been mentioned (possibly because it is actually very obvious) is that the mechanism by which wisdom has typically been "stored" and "passed on" is through tradition. Tradition is of course a great tool for this, since tradition works whether we understand it or not, and is usually recognized as such. However, with the cultural insurrection that has laid waste to such a foundational necessity, passing down wisdom has become, if not impossible, a fucking nightmare.

At least, that seems like a rather logical explanation. And the guilty party rears its ugly head again.

Interzone / Re: What is 'Wisdom', anyway?
« on: September 22, 2012, 08:08:55 PM »
Who is "we"?
What qualifies you to speak for others "getting it"?
This isn't about you.

And what is "old as fuck"?
Does saying that immerse you in perceived coolness?
It makes you seem, to me, like a childish halfwit.
So much for "no offense".
If you're gonna be offensive, then at a minimum, do it honestly.
That statement was an attempt at humor. Apparently a poor one. Think of me what you will from that. Like you said, "this isn't about [me]."

I am approaching 60, and when (if) you arrive there, yourself, you will discover it really isn't anything like you thought it was from your own distant youth.
I don't doubt it.

Interzone / Re: What is 'Wisdom', anyway?
« on: September 22, 2012, 06:21:29 PM »
First of all, no offense, but we get it, Crow. You're old as fuck. Don't worry, we love you anyway.

This idea of 'knowing nothing' confuses almost everyone.
I think this is most directly a result of lacking perspective. You have to know so much before realizing that you know nothing in the grand scheme of things. Although, I suppose that's already obvious to most here.

I also think there's an important point to be made here. Teenagers are expected to be stupid; their brains haven't fully formed. People in their 20's and 30's have no excuse for acting like complete retards. They're the ones that truly worry me.

Interzone / Re: Divorce and abortion
« on: April 17, 2012, 08:24:39 PM »
By the way, broken families are broken without divorce. It's true that divorce is stressful for the children, but it's even more stressful to endure domestic conflict.
I have to agree with this viewpoint. Divorce per se is a side issue. The real issue is fucked up people and their fucked up children.

As for abortion, I'm 100% pro-abortion. Choice is essentially irrelevant. Abortion is only bad if you promote a "life at all costs" moral view of the world.
Abortion, well, I could say many things in favor, but following what you said, I will say something that many here would agree with: birth control and abortion keep slutty women out of the genetic pool.
This, too.

Interzone / Re: Nihilism and Atheism
« on: April 17, 2012, 08:19:43 PM »
As far as practical reasoning goes, I don't see many happy atheists. In fact, most of them seem to be very depressed without their wine.
As much as it pains me to admit this, I would have to agree. There is a tremendous disproportion of Asperger types and utilitarian liberals in the atheist camp. There also appears to be 1) a pervasive victim mentality, 2) a desire to turn atheism into either a club or political movement, and 3) a tendency to promote literal interpretations of religious concepts, even when there is no real valid reasoning (this is usually to make the inevitable debate impossible to lose). The last of these is, I suspect, part of a need to feel intellectually superior.

I've never seen atheism as anything more than a rather obvious and self evident truth. There is no personal, anthropomorphic or otherwise, super entity watching over you, caring about you or the decisions you make. The universe is indifferent. Anything beyond our scope of understanding is just that. I think many people just take this concept for granted and go from there.

The only significance I see for atheism as a viewpoint is in opposition to the retardation of "fundamentalist" religious idiots.

Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 17, 2012, 08:02:51 PM »
Unlike most people, on pot I am incredibly motivated and passionate.


Everyone will tell you that pot wastes your time, or makes you lazy, but it merely seems these people have no will.
First, you just explained that your experience is the exception and not the rule. Second, how pot affects you depends on how much you use, what strain(s) you typically use, and your individual body chemistry. The general consensus is regarding long term abuse.

Interzone / Re: Emo realism
« on: April 17, 2012, 07:59:04 PM »
I fail to see how 2 and 4 are any different than whats already going on now.
2) The elites are completely business oriented, at least in the USA. Their interests are self serving. They are not necessarily historically literate people with an eye towards a desirable future.

4) If left alone, this would occur naturally. However, there are a variety of forces opposing this natural division both ideologically and in practice.

The drug thing will probably balance itself out after a few generations of being legal where people get to experience whatever negative impact they can have.
Or more likely, it will remain exactly as it always has and always will.

Hallucinogens should probably be regulated like firearms though i think.
Any specific reasons you are targeting hallucinogens? Are there specific hallucinogens you have in mind?

Interzone / Re: Leftist elitists exposed
« on: April 17, 2012, 07:51:18 PM »
This is typical of the deeply entrenched Kipling-esque ideologies of the paternalistic left. They are the truest and purist racists with any type of political power. They should, in theory, be the absolute enemies of the so called anti-racists of academia. Yet, they aren't. Why?

Interzone / Re: Educators
« on: April 17, 2012, 07:46:04 PM »
The ideal would be education because a strong nation is useless in the end if everyone is dumb except the leaders.
This would seem to only be true for a democracy. Otherwise, people need only listen to the educated.

if the leaders have to use too much coercion to lead the way, it often result in a civil war. And with insufficient education, the army you will have to defend your government will have a majority of soldiers who will only defend it if you give them money or privileges. Or they will be driven by fear like the communists were during WW2.
This is why leadership requires virtue. The virtuous leader understands when and how coercion is to be applied. It is the corrupt who use coercion in excessive or unreasonable ways. Thus, the problem is moral and not practical.

There is also the question of to what degree power corrupts, which I think is legitimate and not just a liberal cop out.

Interzone / Re: Religion and science are not opposites
« on: April 17, 2012, 07:39:22 PM »
In what way do these points tell us that religion and science are not opposites?
I believe his point is that from either perspective, the other exists logically within. Ergo, they are not antithetical but complementary.

Of course if they are proper complements of each other, they are in some sense opposites. However, that seems to be nitpicking.

Interzone / Re: Drugs
« on: April 14, 2012, 01:57:41 AM »
For all you know 1+1 does equal 3.
In mathematics, we define our own axioms arbitrarily. Within a given framework, there is a definitive answer as to what one plus one equals.

All those condemning alcohol - pair some beer with food, you won't ever go back. Stouts go really well with fish and other seafood, for example.
No. Alcohol is blugh. On the rare occasions that I drink, I will drink Scotch or, sometimes, homemade concoctions mixed with grain alcohol.

Metal / Re: Do we merge this forum with commerce?
« on: April 14, 2012, 01:32:27 AM »
That would be cruel and unusual punishment.

Just looking for feedback.
Yeah, I know. I'm just being a dick. That's what bros do.

On a serious note: This topic has come up a few times and it seems like the overwhelming opinion is to keep direct advertising separate from this sub-forum. Might I ask what benefits you would see from merging the two?

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