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Metal / Re: How to write quality metal....(?)
« on: December 06, 2008, 02:56:56 PM »
Quote from: Gregorian Watcher
I think what you mean is, and I agree with what you've worded so far, write what naturally comes to you as long as it's good and it's honest - and NOT random crap, unless you keep modifying it to a better arrangement, etc.

The stuff to avoid seems pretty obvious, even obligatory.  Could you give me just a tad refresher or clarification on the "riff salad fiascos."  What would account or equate to being a crappy riff salad, is it like random riffs thrown together ad hoc, or something?

Additionally, what do you mean by neglecting transitional riffs - when necessary?  Is there a timing when to use these and when not to use these in a song arrangement?

On the first point, yes, that's a good way of thinking about it.

A riff salad is when you just write a whole shit load of riffs and then loosely throw them together in a song.  This can work on rare occasions but is usually the result of poor writing.

For transitional riffs there are no real set rules.  Obviously if you're linking two thematically different passages it would be a good idea to write a transitional riff.  However, there are times when transitional riffs are unnecessary.
-If the two passages are similar enough thematically
-If a transitional riff would interrupt the flow of the song
-Sometimes one will intentionally not write a transitional riff for artistic reasons, such as for impact or to make the song chaotic.  Suffocation is probably the prime example of this but this can be fairly common in death metal

Quote from: Helmholtz
A point.  No matter how good our intentions our, our actual ability to do something is not determined by that factor.  It is always a point to consider, that one may not be suited at writing music, and may instead have some other contribution to make, however grand or humble.  No judgments yet on you sir, I've not heard anything by you.  Good to know there are fellow Canadian Hessians however.

This is very true.  With this in mind, don't be afraid to fail and even if you do fail that doesn't necessarily mean you should give up.  Never surrender, fight through the bad times, kill Jesus Christ, (insert other motivational cliches), etc.

Metal / Re: How to write quality metal....(?)
« on: December 06, 2008, 02:34:20 AM »
What's been posted so far is very good, although I'd have to agree with Heydrich about the lyrics not needing to come first.  All I can really add is, always keep in mind that there is no secret formula to writing good music.  Clearly define what it is you're trying to express (lyrically and musically) and decide what the best way to say it is, with whatever you have available to you.  Then craft the songs steadily and at an appropriate pace (i.e. don't rush it but don't keep re-writing the song indefinitely).

Also, try to avoid all the musical traps that come with the territory:
-Dressing up pop/rock songs as metal
-Riff salad fiascos
-Neglecting transitional riffs/passages (when necessary)
-Wandering songs

Metal / Re: OZZY OSBOURNE turns 60
« on: December 03, 2008, 10:16:18 PM »
Actually,  the way I hear it Ozzy died well over a decade ago.  His body simply remains animated from all the coke and acid he's done.  Note the total lack of cognition in his eyes and incoherent speech patterns.

Metal / Re: What are the new metal classics?
« on: December 03, 2008, 02:51:04 AM »
I realize they aren't a new band but I feel Necromantia's latest LP, The Sound of Lucifer Storming Heaven, is woefully under appreciated.  Whether it will ever be considered a classic I can't say, but I haven't grown bored of it at all and it's clearly miles ahead of the vast sea of shit that is most modern metal.

Interzone / Re: Flying the flag of Metal
« on: December 03, 2008, 02:37:29 AM »
Quote from: My AIDS, Your Arse
I don't think some of us would agree with keeping hair short. It's a bit of a throwback to World War I to keep lice out of the hair on the battlefield,

Point taken.  This may be a case of my personal prejudice seeping in, as I tend to prefer short hair.

Interzone / Re: Wikipedia deletes ANUS, again
« on: December 03, 2008, 02:32:09 AM »
Points taken in regard to editing the links all at once. I just checked on three DLA the links I added. Deleted of course. Yet this pointless MuiscBrainz link remains http://musicbrainz.org/artist/a95ef44c-aeda-4222-9d57-10b28240e634.html

I was very skeptical at first, but over the past couple of days it's become exceedingly obvious that this is, in fact, a case of ideological aversion on the side of wikipedia.  I was willing to give them the benefit of the doubt, but this just goes to show that they really are just a bunch of politically driven child rapists.

It seems that if we wish to overcome this obstacle we must think very much outside of the box.  Perhaps a less direct tactic is in order.  What exactly I can't quite say at this point, but I'll mull it over.

Interzone / Re: Flying the flag of Metal
« on: December 02, 2008, 11:36:34 PM »
My suggestion to everyone would be to simply dress like a total fascist.  It's a far more effective mode of dress.  Just be sure not to dress like some kind of ass ramming NAZI jack off.
What do you exactly mean by dressing fascist?
I suppose fascist isn't the best descriptive term for dress, but I'll try to explain what I mean as best as I can.  Note: I'll only cover male dress in Western culture.
1). Wear appropriately fitting and clean clothing, nothing shabby or baggy
2). Preferably a dress shirt in combination with slacks
3). Hair should be short and managed, along with any facial hair
4). Avoid flashy and/or homosexual accessories
5). Try to look overall professional (perhaps that's a much better term) but not like a yuppy

I actually just came across this, which is a pretty good example.

Most of this is pretty much common sense stuff.  I didn't mean anything out there by it.

I just remembered this, now everybody read it.

Metal / Re: Megadeth Thinks "Dinosaur Bands" Who Don't Do Games Are Stupid
« on: December 02, 2008, 08:55:43 PM »
Maybe when Mustaine takes a break from bragging about that time he fucked Kirk Hammett's "girlfriend", somebody can remind him that the only thing good about Megadeth was Marty Friedman.

Interzone / Re: Wikipedia deletes ANUS, again
« on: December 02, 2008, 03:43:03 AM »
I tried adding links to the DLA on about 50 band pages but the links on the more major bands just get deleted. The link on the Slayer page got deleted after two minutes. I put it back and someone else deleted it.

Wow.  Wikipedia is even gayer than I could have ever imagined.

Well, as the saying goes: "If you can't beat 'em, male social primates tend to resort to suicidally aggressive acts of violence."

Quote from: Ymir
Blatant talk of hacking and trolling on a public forum will just reinforce their stance against ANUS. It is also stupid. Especially if you want to be successful in it.
Ymir is right.  My previous post was rather childish and not conducive to any real solution.  So, I've deleted it.  But I will reiterate the point I made about attempting to keep any activities on wikipedia as low key as possible.

Interzone / Re: Flying the flag of Metal
« on: December 02, 2008, 01:57:23 AM »
I've completely abandoned the "metal look" for most of the reasons that have been previously stated.  People tend to just assume you're a retarded dope fiend when you look like a metalhead.  My suggestion to everyone would be to simply dress like a total fascist.  It's a far more effective mode of dress.  Just be sure not to dress like some kind of ass ramming NAZI jack off.

Interzone / Re: Wikipedia deletes ANUS, again
« on: December 02, 2008, 01:48:01 AM »
Hey, I'm a new member but I've been lurking for quite some time now.
When I arrived at ANUS I was listening to Lamb of God and Pantera, ANUS and the band reviews have given me an education.
Additionally the discussions on nihilism and our current society have opened my eyes, I used to be what T Kaczynski called an over-socialized leftist, but again I've been educated.
The Dark Legion archives was my first exposure to ANUS, and from there I entered the main site and the forum.
I've decided to first post in this discussion because, as Istaros says, an ANUS wikipedia article isn't immediately necessary for exposure, though it would be useful. In this frame of mind I figure it would be effective to post links to the band reviews from the Dark Legions archives. I've done this on the At The Gates article on Wikipedia under external links, I figure the review is of the same nature as an Allmusic review (though of higher quality) and thus hopefully won't be a target for removal from the external links. If this is done for all bands which have articles on Wikipedia and reviews in the DL archives, we'd be both improving Wikipedia as a source, spreading knowledge of high quality metal and also advertising ANUS. If no one has any logical objections I'll get started with all bands under A. Also, adding an external link to a Wikipedia article is fairly easy once the guide is viewed, I got it right on my first attempt so it can't be too difficult. I look forward to working with you folks.

This is an excellent idea and it's something anyone can do even if they've got just a few extra minutes on hand.

Also, not to go off on too much of a tangent here, but what's officially the deal with the Hessian Wiki.  Is it still a work in progress or is it dead?  Should we post links to it on Wikipedia as well?

Metal / Re: thrash metal comeback
« on: November 28, 2008, 04:51:39 PM »
Maybe I'm way off with this, but a bunch of the so called new thrash metal bands that I've been pointed to appear to be a bunch of reactionary scenesters who are trying distance themselves from the emos.  There also appears to be a large number of Mexican bands in this area, which would lend itself to my claim (for anyone that is unaware, there has been an enormous backlash against emos in Mexico).

Interzone / Re: Wikipedia deletes ANUS, again
« on: November 28, 2008, 04:35:37 PM »
Look, wikipedia is a very important site, run by very important people, with very important lives, within which they do very important things.  They don't have the time, energy, or resources to waste on a site dedicated to something as asinine as reality.  Reality is gay and depressing, and in it my butthole aches and my cock oozes puss.  Fuck that shit.

But in all seriousness, being hosted on wikipedia is essentially a necessary form of advertisement.  The fact that the site is run by a bunch of ("alleged") child rapists is unfortunate but irrelevant.

Interzone / Re: Power chords redefine harmony
« on: November 28, 2008, 03:00:45 PM »
"tritones are a distinguishing feature of the relations between notes in metal riffs, but not the individual chords."

You're absolutely right.  This is actually what I meant, but looking back at my original post I completely failed to get this point across.  So, thank you for the clarification.

Also, in all fairness, a significant amount of metal is modal (typically Aeolian and Phrygian) or makes use of (exploits?) the harmonic minor scale.

Interzone / Re: Power chords redefine harmony
« on: November 28, 2008, 03:10:46 AM »

But isn't one of the primary distinguishing factors of metal the prevalence of the tritone?  And don't a lot of death metal bands write intentionally muddy riffs?  Also, aren't most extreme metal songs written chromatically (i.e. without a traditional scale or key)?

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