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Interzone / Re: Sugar substitutes
« on: November 01, 2012, 04:40:13 PM »
I understand your point about humans perhaps being the evolutionary precedent, but what this means is we have no proof and we can kind of make it up as we go along; "humans are doing this now...we must have evolved to do it!" Personally I find discussions of what humans were "meant" to do based on evolution go around in circles and are of little relevance practically, especially since intelligence is our most significant evolved trait, and allows us to do whatever we like even if it kills us after reproductive age (eg driving cars, smoking). In our history, humans have had the intelligence to adapt to whatever food sources are available.

As far as milk being a renewable resource, it only is in the sense that cows "replace" each other on any closed farm. Once you take into account that a glass of milk took 200 litres of water to produce, and each dairy cow consumes more than 20kg of vegetable matter per day (at a feed conversion ratio of about 6 on a dry matter basis), you can see that we are squandering our resources and screwing over about a billion starving people of the world. To add to this a bit more, a kilogram of cheese requires ten kilograms of milk to produce, so that just multiplies the greed.

Basically, dairy is one of our most effective ways of saying "fuck you Somalians!"

Interzone / Re: Sugar substitutes
« on: November 01, 2012, 08:40:16 AM »
Vegans are people who don't eat anything produced by animals, period. They claim that cow milk is for baby cows (even though cows produce more milk than the calf needs) They'd claim honey is for bees and they eat nothing but organic vegetables and sourdough bread. They are usually kind of insane, even most veggies I've spoken with agree to that. The thing is that it's impossible to argue that being vegan is healthy. There is no other way for humans to absorb enough calcium than through diary products. The only alternative is to eat vitamin pills and those things are arguably unhealthy too. For amusement you could ask a vegan if a coprophiliac could be a vegan.
In addition to the thing about cows only producing the huge quantities of milk because of hormones and selective breeding, we should also recognise that the dairy industry takes calves away from their mothers straight after birth so that humans can drink all the milk the cow produces. It would be delusional to think that farmers just take what's left after the calf has drunk it.  ;D

Arguably, this is one of the cruellest things our species does. Imagine going into a hospital and stealing new-born babies, and the level of trauma this would cause. This is essentially the same thing, as all mammals possess the biological instinct/imperative to suckle their young.

Also, there are shitloads of vegetables that have more than enough calcium. The idea that we need to drink the milk of another species in order to get enough calcium is absurd. No other species does this. All other mammals stop drinking milk once they are weaned, so there is no evolutionary precedent for humans drinking cow milk.

Metal / Re: music is not beautiful
« on: October 27, 2012, 05:43:12 AM »
I think the message the OP was trying to convey is that composition is significantly more important than aesthetics. Perhaps some people are hard-wired to only look for aesthetics.

Metal / Re: I hate nerds
« on: June 09, 2012, 04:58:34 PM »
Hmm...not wanting to deliver an arse-whooping could be related to physical size, rather than actually being a pussy. Or maybe we'd prefer not to spend our lives in court/prison.

We need however that they not shove it down our throats (hehe) by being publicly gay.
I don't really see the logic behind this. If promoting quality is our aim, then surely we should promote actual achievements, rather than our rather mundane ability to breed. Those who don't have this "skill" simply want basic rights so that they have the same opportunities for meaningful achievements. And surely whether something is done in public is irrelevant to its merit?

Metal / Re: Introducing intelligent people to intelligent metal
« on: August 08, 2011, 01:03:33 AM »
I think unless you're a serious Asperger's case, it shouldn't require the level of planning and strategy described in this thread to socialise and exchange ideas with people.

Metal / Re: Metal for all seasons
« on: June 20, 2011, 12:30:31 AM »
Total silliness.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: June 09, 2011, 04:55:25 PM »
I guess so, sort of like calling a liberal a communist.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: June 09, 2011, 02:47:04 AM »
It tells me that they are dabblers who aren't interested enough in the music to explore beyond the superficial. The good stuff has always excluded these people.

The word "hipster" implies that they listen to their music ironically or to impress people, which may occasionally be true, but I think my "dabbler" hypothesis is far more plausible.

Metal / Re: Reclaiming (or Replacing) Metal
« on: June 08, 2011, 12:21:37 PM »
Ultimately the goal here is to create music which is of the utmost quality, while safe-guarding it from outside attack. Creating false images will keep the hipsters looking the other way.
I have an idea for how we can do this: how about we confine the best metal to an underground subculture, while only shallow metal-flavoured pop is made immediately attainable to the dabblers and short-term thrill-seekers (I prefer not to use the word "hipster" because it assumes a thinking style we can't prove exists).

Hmm...perhaps such a situation already exists?

Metal / Re: Why the band you know today will be forgotten tomorrow.
« on: May 14, 2011, 01:54:07 AM »
The fact that Euronymous didn't physically execute every sound on De Mysteriis I think is irrelevant, in the same way that classical composers don't play every instrument.

I think it is possible to get a unified concept with two people involved if they have the same vision. Three people is certainly pushing it though, and I've never seen it work. Xytras and Vorphalack are a good example, as are Fenriz and Nocturno Culto. With these guys, session musicians are just a means to an end.

Metal / Re: "Solar Metal", "Sun Metal", or something along those lines
« on: April 24, 2011, 05:25:56 AM »
I think there's some real potential in that link you posted. Strangely I got a  bit of a Burzum vibe at times, even though you're moving away from black metal. Keep working!

Metal / Re: New Burzum album 2011 (Fallen)
« on: February 22, 2011, 07:03:09 AM »
This whole "above average" argument is probably nothing more than semantics, but I can't help but be suspicious it's one of those desperate sounding "hey at least it's better than that other shit!" arguments. It's a way of making a correct statement to give the illusion of advancing an argument, but in reality no one was suggesting that the "other shit" was any good, so the only argument that's been refuted is one that was never made.

Personally I find that Belus, taken on its own and not compared to anything, offers something special. I realise it doesn't stand up to earlier material though and I can't be certain that in five years I'll still be actively listening to it. Fallen is, as much as I wanted to like it, a turd, and the only "argument" that could be used in its favour would resemble the one in my first paragraph.

Metal / Re: Bands that you want to see reviewed by DLA
« on: February 20, 2011, 01:36:22 AM »

Metal / Re: New Burzum album 2011 (Fallen)
« on: February 09, 2011, 12:57:41 AM »
I'm enjoying Valen, but the rest of the album seems to fall flat. Admittedly I'm relying on shitty youtube rips at the moment. I really enjoyed Belus and saw it as valid art, but Fallen just seems bland and formulaic.

Cargest, may I ask what appeals to you about tracks 2-4? Jeg Faller must be the silliest Burzum song, with that sugary singalong chorus.

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