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Metal / Re: Mcdonalds 'Pagan Metal'
« on: May 16, 2010, 04:15:44 PM »
I think part of "Pagan" metal's problem is it takes the pagan or folk aspect too literally.  Instead of Falkenbach, Pagan METAL should feel free to sound more like Sort Vokter.

Metal / Re: Bands worth hearing thread
« on: May 16, 2010, 01:12:00 PM »
Looking for opinions/information on Himinbjorg's latest release and Hooded Menace's latest

Metal / Metal 2009
« on: May 16, 2010, 10:41:08 AM »
There was never really a 2009 retrospective thread that I recall.  Here's my "No Surprise Best Of:"  

Asphyx - Death the Brutal Way:  I listened to this for the first time in quite a while the other night and it really stood up well.  In fact taking a break from it and coming back made it even better.  An immense sound and VanDrunen (my favorite death metal vocalist) sounds as grizzled as ever.  Not one dull moment in this epic.  Asphyx cements its legacy.  This was my favorite album of the year.
Beherit - Engram:  Is Beherit the greatest metal act of all time?  To come back after a 14 year break and release something this good makes me think so.  However, I feel this album works best if you are well versed in the tradition of Beherit, their previous releases, and the tradition of black metal, in general.  Because of this I give the edge to Asphyx for best album.
Disma - The Vault of Membros:  Although Asphyx and Beherit released the better albums (and this is only a 3 song demo, of course), I am more excited about this release than anything else this year.  This came out of left field for me.  I would almost say I've never really heard death metal quite like this before.  Great vocals, great atmosphere.  Let's see what the future holds.

Honorable Mention:
Birth A.D. - Stillbirth of a Nation:  (not the biggest fan of thrash and the 20 minute run time bums me out, but this is just solid and lots of fun.  well worth the $11.  great lyrics!)
War Master - Chapel of the Apocalypse:  (much like Disma, this demo makes me more excited than satisfied.  love the atmosphere.  Can't wait for a full length.)
Winterwolf - Cycle of the Werewolf:  (nothing new here, but I'm a sucker for the style and the aesthetic.  Bloody Finnish FUN!!)

If Disma and War Master can release full-lengths this year, and if Profanatica's album actually gets released, between them and a handful of Texas bands (Blaspherian, Imprecation, etc), 2010 could be one hell of a year for American Metal!

EDIT:  Aosoth - Ashes of Angels deserves at least an honorable mention:  no-goofing-around black metal.  No lulls for 40 minutes, but not over-the-top rabid, either.

Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: May 14, 2010, 05:34:20 PM »
As far as Graveland influence goes, I'm trying very hard to follow (and expand upon) his example while maintaining my own musical style

I think this is smart.  Graveland should be your guide and "beginning point."  A) because you already cite him as an influence and B) because early and mid-era Graveland is just some of the best metal ever created.  I would normally hesitate to say this, but I know you're smart enough to differentiate between using Graveland as a guide and blatantly trying to "re-make" Graveland.  good luck!

also, how do you pronounce "Wiht?"

Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: May 14, 2010, 04:50:41 PM »
Thank you very much. At some point I will have to revisit the bass approach to my song making. Playing the bass as a guitar is challenging and to get all of the sound I am looking for, even more so. I was able to get the sound by placing a microphone towards the amp as opposed to the direct input. Now that I have a regular guitar, I have not touched the bass in awhile.

This what I did the other day as a practice of recent ideas. I go towards thrash a a lot when I do not have a focused idea.


Forza Romana:  Obviously it's only 2 2-minute clips at this point but I like it.  As soon as you have several songs or an entire album completed I would definitely give it a listen!  As Cargest pointed out, the idea of the "Roman Legion marching" is apt and I would like to see you carry that idea throughout an entire album.  And again, I think the number one thing to keep in mind, for all the artists here, is the general advice of "Transcending the Human."  To convey the sound of a marching legion would push you in that direction I think.

Interzone / Re: Twilight of the Gods and Ragnarok
« on: May 14, 2010, 04:31:13 PM »
This just reminded me to read the Edda this summer.

I just finished The Prose Edda a few weeks ago.  For some reason it just wasn't what I expected, which is fine, and it I didn't dislike it, but it was quite bizarre.  Do read it, though!

I always enjoyed the attempt by the compiler to make the thing so mysterious as if this were a main point about the stories themselves.  I think it proves that aesthetic was impportant to early Germans as well as Romantic Germans of later years.

MYSTERIOUS is definitely an accurate word to describe it.

Metal / Re: SINISTER and Percussive Death Metal
« on: May 13, 2010, 06:07:17 PM »
Edit: My copy is the digipack split release of "Hate/ Bastard Saints" + Live Bonus Tracks. Bastard Saints has a very Morbid Angel feel behind it, kind of like Blessed Are The Sick. Just an observation... maybe not accurate. I do love this CD though, such a good move on my part :)

score!  I know there is a Cross the Styx/Diabolical Summoning 2 on 1 CD out there, too - probably worth picking up.

Thanks gentlemen!

The Perennial Philosophy looks aces!

so how does that DLARC work?  can any of us enter in the code?  I often buy books from Amazon and I would love to send 6% ANUS's way every time (especially if it's going to drugs and porn!).  Can we set up a linked book list thread or something?

Interzone / Re: Qabalah
« on: May 13, 2010, 05:27:31 PM »
You were good in that other thread, Bob, but coming in guns a'blazing w/ words like "bullshit" is...frankly, bullshit.
Not sure which thread you're referring to, but I can't be held responsible for people's emotional reactions to my vocabulary.

I was talking about the "split between religion and science" thread.  I think you had better tact in that thread.  I like what you can bring to the table most of the time.  Maybe you've found some common ground with the discussion of whether or not Truth is a valid concept.  Or at least a beginning point.

Interzone / Re: Qabalah
« on: May 13, 2010, 05:11:43 AM »
Sometimes rationalists' skepticism just goes too far; as if they wanted to spoil the fun of everyone in the world.

I call this "hyper-skepticism" and have often had the same thought.  I have a theory that our over-valuing of rationality is less the result of "discovering" truth and more the result of an overcompensation and resentment towards religion once we realized they lied to us.  It's human nature:  whenever something is really powerful and successful there is a backlash.  There always is.  What has been more successful and powerful than religion? Nothing.  Not even close.  From the individual, to the community, to artistic movements, to political movements, to entire nations, to mankind as a whole - OVERCOMPENSATION is the key to understanding everything human.   I am a Nietzschean in that, at the end of the day, I realize that truth doesn't shape the human world, power does.  It all boils down to power.  For thousands of years, in every corner of the planet, God ruled w/ an iron fist.  I revere anything or anybody that powerful.  However, most people do not.

Interzone / Re: Definition of DECADENCE
« on: May 13, 2010, 04:36:56 AM »
Belief that positive stimuli (happiness is the most popular one right now) is the purpose of living.

good thinking.  Pleasure, comfort, and safety are the values of the Englishman!  ;)

Interzone / Re: Twilight of the Gods and Ragnarok
« on: May 13, 2010, 04:34:23 AM »
This just reminded me to read the Edda this summer.

I just finished The Prose Edda a few weeks ago.  For some reason it just wasn't what I expected, which is fine, and it I didn't dislike it, but it was quite bizarre.  Do read it, though!

Interzone / Re: [META] Activities of our users
« on: May 13, 2010, 04:29:55 AM »
Cargest:  I've listened to it twice now, and I like it a lot!  I AM a fan of "folkish" metal (although the genre, itself, does not have many instances of high quality successes).  Besides Graveland, Bathory, Enslaved, Isengard, and Veles, folk/pagan/viking metal is pretty sad.  So I actually think it's a good idea to try to operate within that "genre," for that very reason.

Let me preface by saying I have no academic background in music whatsoever.  Quite honestly, I can only talk about music in vague terms and more or less explain my "feelings."  Also, I am a "sympathetic" audience in that, initially, I usually have positive feelings, no matter what, regarding the book I'm reading or CD I'm listening to.  I find this is the best way to BEGIN your experience when acquainting yourself w/ a new piece of art.  I just get excited for something new!  I'm simple and naive that way.  But here we go:

1.  It's unpretentious and straightforward.  No goofing around - you get right into the metal.
2.  I would describe the sound as "noble" and "proud" (I can, indeed, here the Graveland influence).  I definitely like that it's not "Norsecore."
3.  As far as I can tell, the general idea being expressed in the music is: The glorious past is still alive! (I'm being as broad as possible).
4.  Too vocal-centric.  I like the SOUND of the vocals (reminds me of Isengard), but there are just too many lyrics for my taste.  I love it when black metal is sparse on the lyrics.  Let the music do the work.
5.  "Boring" riffs are not the problem, but perhaps you need some more "solemn" moments.  As it is, the first 2 tracks are pretty damn rollicking.  Listen to "Hostmorke" by Isengard to maybe get an idea of what I'm talking about.

OK, let's look at the big picture.  Folk metal seems like a good place to do some exploration, but here's the potential pitfall that perhaps you're already beginning to fall into:  amidst all the boisterous pride (which is not necessarily a bad thing) that your music offers, sentimentality and human emotion can begin to creep in.  I view this as a bad thing.  Metal wants to eschew the human drama.  It regularly gets talked about on this forum.  Most recently in this thread .  It's basically the #1 reason for why I like metal:  Metal transcends the human perspective and laughs at how puny we are!  Take Sort Vokter, for example, there is nothing "human" about Folkloric Necro Metal at all!  And yet there is still an "earthiness" about it.  And that is a landmark album, would you not agree?  Your goal should be to show us a perspective as far away from human as possible.  I think cutting down on the lyrics (and, therefore, the human voice) would be a practical and literal way to get the ball rolling.  

The worst thing somebody can say about your music is: "I can relate to that."  You need to give us something NEW, something INHUMAN, something we CANNOT relate to - the Sublime, the voice of God, mystery, terror, the imperceivable.  You need to be ABOVE the fray.  You need to express something by sound that cannot be expressed by language.

One of my favorite albums ever is Thousand Swords and you cited Graveland, so I'm going to muse: TS expresses an enthusiasm and pride, but also a solemnity and stoicism.  This results in a truly majestic sound.  Even though it's the soundtrack of war, there is so much DIGNITY.  The amount of lyrics is perfect.  The riffs are sometimes boring on a micro level, but it's irrelevant.  Above all, it manages to sound "solar" in a "lunar" genre.  The solar aspect of metal has still not sufficiently been explored.  This isn't just folk metal, it sounds like the beginning of something that metal has still not managed to build.

EDIT:  I listened to it a 3rd time last night and I still like it.  In fact it was better than the first 2 times.  I'm not sure it will stand the real long test of time, but there's enough potential here to get me fairly excited.  Plus I respect that you're a fellow forum member essentially creating a metal act right in front of us (so it would seem).  I would even say that perhaps there IS a sense of solemnity that I didn't pick up on before and that the lyrics aren't all that superfluous after all.  I guess sparse lyrics and solemn moments are just aesthetic choices I GENERALLY prefer - nevertheless, it's still something to think about I would say.

Metal / Re: What Metal is not
« on: May 13, 2010, 03:09:06 AM »
What Metal is
- In some cases, a form of ativism, in that it originates from reactivated ideas and genes

are you speaking specifically of Romanticism?  or something even more ancient?

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