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Metal / Re: War Master "Chapel of Apocalypse" demo 2009: it rocks
« on: October 13, 2009, 12:04:08 AM »
Total support!

Metal / Re: Death/black metal on mainstream radio
« on: October 12, 2009, 03:40:04 PM »
I think the point is that metal already has a mainstream face, Metallica, Iron Maiden, CoF, Killswitch Engage, Spinal Tap etc etc. I think we can agree that decent underground metal has no mainstream face because it is underground. By definition it is a more acquired taste and more complex to grasp, otheriwse it wouldn't be underground. It is not pleasant or nice to listen to. I think the point of this thread is to give the mainstream a taste of what real underground metal sounds like and what it's intentions are. It is NOT the desire to popularise and dilute the concepts and music that make underground metal so great.

Granted this is a near impossible task as to make something mainstream you must make it easy to digest for a mainstream audience, because otherwise people get bored/scared. But i think this is a worthwhile project as for every 1000 idiots who misunderstand, mock and demonize, you will get a kid who really digs it and may just be the next Varg Vikernes or Rob Darken.
greater exposure brings new blood to the genre and it also brings an influx of posers. you need to balance the two, obviously. there needs to be avenues for newcomers to reach the underground (like mainstream radio) but we don't want to saturate society with it.
This is what I was thinking.  A good way to attract non-hipsters and non-depressed goth/outcast types is via "mainstream."  Enter Sandman on MTV and Seasons in the Abyss in the high school weight room trickles down into my friends' older brothers (who were "popular," well-adjusted, and "cool") listening to Slayer, Sepultura, Deicide, and Morbid Angel when I'm in middle school.  That, in turn, gives me an exposure to extreme metal when I'm 12 and I sort of look up to these guys because they're cool and they lift weights and they play football.  The Sepultura was "Chaos A.D." and the Morbid Angel was "Domination," but it didn't matter because the seed had been planted, and I had an appreciation for metal in a NON-IRONIC way.  Later on when I'm in college I discover black metal, I was late to the party, but hey, in 1991 I was only 8 years old.  The point is that when kids are 12-17 yrs. old, the well-adjusted kids tend toward the mainstream (whatever it may be) and usually branch out a little later on.  I say Immortal or Vader on the radio is better for metal, and kids, in general, than hip-hop/rap on the radio.

Interzone / Re: Nietzsche's Moral and Political Philosophy
« on: October 12, 2009, 01:20:42 PM »
Nietzsche spoke highly of the ancient Indian text, Manusmiriti or the 'Law Codes of Manu', in which the Vedic caste system was formally laid out.

From Will To Power:

Close the Bible and open the Manu Smriti.

It has an affirmation of life, a triumphing agreeable sensation in life and that to draw up a lawbook such as Manu means to permit oneself to get the upper hand, to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living.

It is generally agreed upon in Nietzsche scholarship that the translations of Buddhist and eastern texts Nietzsche cites were flawed.

You may be right (I have no idea), but in this context it doesn't really matter as it reveals Nietzsche's thinking nonetheless.  The point is that Nietzsche contrasts the Bible to a way of thinking that permits oneself to get the upper hand, "to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living."  Whether this is actually written in the Manu Smriti is kind of immaterial.  Nietzsche's thinking is Nietzsche's thinking whether it was inspired by something mis-translated, ficitonal, or otherwise.

Metal / Re: Death/black metal on mainstream radio
« on: October 07, 2009, 04:06:40 PM »
I would be proud.  Abandoning metal because it is "mainstream" is silly and utterly reactionary.

Think about this:  historically, where has metal always been most popular, more accepted, and more "mainstream?"  Europe, Scandinavia, Norway.  I don't think it's a coincidence that this is where the best metal (I would argue) has come from.  I am concerned with listening to good, high-quality metal, not with being part of an "underground."  The ultimate goal should simply be:  more, new, good metal being released.  I contend that quality extreme or heavy metal entering the popular/mainstream conciousness does NOT NECESSARILY hurt the potential for more, new, good metal being released, as is seen in the history of metal in Europe, Scandinavia, Norway.  I'm not saying it will help metal, either, but if we see a complete absence of good metal being released or an even more precipitous drop in quality, in the coming years, I will eat my words.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: October 02, 2009, 11:10:19 PM »
Death Metal - Only death is real

Black Metal - Life is but a dream

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 22, 2009, 03:04:15 PM »
Well I think it's more fun to actually attempt to decide which is superior.  The "they are equal" argument or "there's no way to figure it out" argument are wishy-washy and boring.  Be daring!

This is why black metal is superior:

As a style, black metal offers some advantages: freed from the drum-leading tendencies of death metal, hence more through-composed open-phrase motif-driven (Summoning, Graveland, Burzum, Immortal, Darkthrone) composition, plus an aesthetic that is more clearly in line with Romantic ideals and less caught up in the modern, technological and individualistic.


Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:48:54 PM »
I disagree on women: there are many I have met who are over 120.

No question.  Same here.  But there are plenty who aren't who would probably still be pretty darn good at rearing children.

I would say this:  if you pass the character test, but fail the IQ test, you should be spared assuming you exhibit some REALLY exceptional quality like beauty or loyalty.

I think more people would not pass the character test than not pass the IQ test.  I just think it's harder to ascertain what is truly in the heart and soul as opposed to an IQ.

That being said, either way works for me.  I don't care about trash.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:24:15 PM »
Sorry, but there have been just as many, if not more, death metal bands who have released 3 or more good albums as there are black metal bands. 

What black metal bands have done this?  Averse Sefira, Sacramentum, Burzum, Immortal, Darkthrone, Graveland, Ildjarn, Beherit, Bathory, Krieg, and Katharsis are the only ones that spring to mind.

Katharsis?  In any event, I agree with you.  I think there are probably more good death metal albums from top to bottom, than black metal albums.  However (and I know you didn't propose this, Cynical), I don't actually think this is a good way to decide which genre is "superior."  I would say compare the heights of both (top 3 albums or something).  If anything, I would say that the fact that high quality black metal is rarer indicates that it IS superior.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:31:33 PM »
It is as if one tears down the old rusted way and the other is the return to a more passionate lifestyle. 

Death Metal is Nietzsche's lion and Black Metal is Nietzche's child.

I mean that in a deep way as well.   Death Metal is too violent and destructive to actually hold an ideology along with it, while the more atmospheric black metal, while not as destruction, can indeed inspire.

I like this distinction and I'm buying it.  And if you buy it too, then that means Black Metal > Death Metal, because Nietzsche says Child > Lion.  I'm going with Black Metal, here.

Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:24:39 PM »
My 2 cents:  the truly inimical are the criminal, the perverse, the decadent, passive-aggressive, bitter, resentful, depressed, impatient, lazy, and boring.  If you could identify these people, you could forego the IQ standard altogether.  As I see it, character/spirit/disposition-toward-reality-and-nature (whatever you want to call it) is more important than simple IQ.  It just seems rather base to me.  Think of all the beautiful women and great mothers (whose only intelligence is child rearing) we would lose to an IQ standard.

Metal / Re: FENRIZ: "90's black metal is for little kids"
« on: September 17, 2009, 02:19:24 PM »

New DARKTHRONE album preview

New Darkthrone album "Total Deaf": full track preview, cover art and tracklisting...

A high point for Antihumanism.com!  Good job.  I lurk/troll a few other boards and everyone seemed to either love it or actually believe it!  So Cargest, you actually did the songs?  you guys worked in tandem, then?  Equal credit to you too, then.  Good teamwork!

Audiofile / Prosanctus Inferi
« on: September 11, 2009, 08:37:04 PM »
Prosanctus Inferi: Rapidshare, Blogspot, Megaupload

Prosanctus Inferi

Prosanctus Inferi - Sacreligious Desecration In Excelsis (2007, Mediafire)

Prosanctus Inferi - Pandemonic Ululations of Vesperic Palpitations (2010, Mediafire, 128) (This is the vinyl rip, which has a more powerful and fuller production than the CD, which had the old mix)

Prosanctus Inferi - Red Streams of Flesh (2011, Mediafire, V0)

Interzone / Re: Truth is an offense
« on: September 06, 2009, 03:36:02 PM »
You are giving me more credit than you think.  My point was the the article seemed like a propaganda report, listing all the reasons why other people are wrong with him, arranged in order of category.  My problem with it was not the evidence, but whether the reporter was being honest and had an agenda.  You asked me if the story made sense, and I thought it didn't, though I guess it is still very possible.

If the things they said in the article were true and confirmed, I would have had no trouble believing in physical evidence. 

And by the way, I don't think bullistics are trivial.

fair enough.  I understand what you're saying is slightly different from what I thought you were saying.  I'm not trying to bust balls, I just think stories can get you just as close to the truth as anything else, which is something people don't seem to buy into that much, reserving physical evidence and science to tell them truth.  I know I'm using the most obvious example in the world, but just think of the OJ Simpson trial.  the story made sense but he got off on bullshit physical evidence aspects.

'trivial' might have been too strong of a word, and don't get me wrong we were good jurors and did our due diligence despite the fact that the vast majority of us knew they were guilty at the beginning of deliberation.  by all means we went through all the evidence, even ballistics.  it's just that in this case, it didn't change a thing (and I knew it wouldn't from the get-go) - see, it would have been a shame if some slight aberration in balistics, or what have you, caused a juror to become skeptical even in the face of other overwhelming evidence.  without expalining the entire case to you, you just have to trust me, in this context, ballistics were trivial compared to a mountain of other evidence and testimony.  I mean one of the defendants dropped his cell phone at the scene of the crime - FAIL!

Interzone / Re: Truth is an offense
« on: September 06, 2009, 04:57:21 AM »
And on a trivial note, the second link doesn't add up (I read the second first), despite the constant claims of evidence.  It seems too anecdotal, like "This is the reason this guy is an asshole and the other story is wrong", but thanks to the nature of the articles, no truth is here to be found.

you seem to be implying that anecdotal evidence is less truthful than other kinds of evidence.  you're out-thinking yourself and relying on "science" to tell you what truth is.  I was on a jury that tried four defendants on several counts of attempted homicide a few years ago, and anecdotal evidence is EVERYTHING.  we did a blind vote when we began deliberation, and the majority was guilty across the board, the few things we had to hash out were trivial technicalities like ballistics.  thank god we only deliberated for 12 hours or so and sent those bastards down the river.  stop thinking "does the 'science' make sense?" and start thinking "does the STORY make sense?"  GUILTY!

Metal / Re: Maryland Deathfest 2010
« on: September 02, 2009, 03:34:33 PM »
Thank you Deadite.  Maybe I'll check out Sadistic Intent.

they're good.  I quite like them.  'Ressurection' is a favorite of mine.  have fun.

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