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Metal / Re: Death/black metal on mainstream radio
« on: October 26, 2009, 04:53:20 PM »
I gotcha.  I'm just saying I think it's better for metal to not be the realm of the outcast or outcast sympathizer.

Interzone / Re: Truth over economy and twilight of money
« on: October 23, 2009, 02:18:44 PM »
Really the only power ever was the hard heart of a killer. Gold is just a couple of abstract layers removed from the mercenary/policeman/soldier/assassin paid with it.

ahhh!  well said.  that's downright poetic!

Interzone / Re: Truth over economy and twilight of money
« on: October 19, 2009, 05:30:45 PM »

A young boy at the feet of his mother

Boy - "Why does dad have to go to work?"
Mom - "To make money."

Why does he have to make money?
So we can buy food and clothes to survive.

Why can people exchange money for food and clothes?
Because money has value.

Why does money have value?
Because money represents gold.

Why does gold have value?
Because people want it.

Why do people want gold?
Shut-up, kid.

Metal / Re: I like O.p.e.t.h.
« on: October 17, 2009, 01:35:33 PM »
All this "blah blah blah transcendent truth of the universe expressed through the double harmonized arpeggio of doom" is total bullshit; Morbid Angel wasn't thinking about that crap at all when they wrote their first two albums, they just wanted to write rippin' death metal with some added charm. Have fun finding any tactful way to express these totally bogus ideas in the real world.

Well I experienced a #10 the first several times I heard Pure Holocaust, with the 2nd full listen being the height experience.  It doesn't happen ALL the time with every good metal album, but then again Morbid Angel can't touch Pure Holocaust.

Metal / Re: War Master "Chapel of Apocalypse" demo 2009: it rocks
« on: October 13, 2009, 12:04:08 AM »
Total support!

Metal / Re: Death/black metal on mainstream radio
« on: October 12, 2009, 03:40:04 PM »
I think the point is that metal already has a mainstream face, Metallica, Iron Maiden, CoF, Killswitch Engage, Spinal Tap etc etc. I think we can agree that decent underground metal has no mainstream face because it is underground. By definition it is a more acquired taste and more complex to grasp, otheriwse it wouldn't be underground. It is not pleasant or nice to listen to. I think the point of this thread is to give the mainstream a taste of what real underground metal sounds like and what it's intentions are. It is NOT the desire to popularise and dilute the concepts and music that make underground metal so great.

Granted this is a near impossible task as to make something mainstream you must make it easy to digest for a mainstream audience, because otherwise people get bored/scared. But i think this is a worthwhile project as for every 1000 idiots who misunderstand, mock and demonize, you will get a kid who really digs it and may just be the next Varg Vikernes or Rob Darken.
greater exposure brings new blood to the genre and it also brings an influx of posers. you need to balance the two, obviously. there needs to be avenues for newcomers to reach the underground (like mainstream radio) but we don't want to saturate society with it.
This is what I was thinking.  A good way to attract non-hipsters and non-depressed goth/outcast types is via "mainstream."  Enter Sandman on MTV and Seasons in the Abyss in the high school weight room trickles down into my friends' older brothers (who were "popular," well-adjusted, and "cool") listening to Slayer, Sepultura, Deicide, and Morbid Angel when I'm in middle school.  That, in turn, gives me an exposure to extreme metal when I'm 12 and I sort of look up to these guys because they're cool and they lift weights and they play football.  The Sepultura was "Chaos A.D." and the Morbid Angel was "Domination," but it didn't matter because the seed had been planted, and I had an appreciation for metal in a NON-IRONIC way.  Later on when I'm in college I discover black metal, I was late to the party, but hey, in 1991 I was only 8 years old.  The point is that when kids are 12-17 yrs. old, the well-adjusted kids tend toward the mainstream (whatever it may be) and usually branch out a little later on.  I say Immortal or Vader on the radio is better for metal, and kids, in general, than hip-hop/rap on the radio.

Interzone / Re: Nietzsche's Moral and Political Philosophy
« on: October 12, 2009, 01:20:42 PM »
Nietzsche spoke highly of the ancient Indian text, Manusmiriti or the 'Law Codes of Manu', in which the Vedic caste system was formally laid out.

From Will To Power:

Close the Bible and open the Manu Smriti.

It has an affirmation of life, a triumphing agreeable sensation in life and that to draw up a lawbook such as Manu means to permit oneself to get the upper hand, to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living.

It is generally agreed upon in Nietzsche scholarship that the translations of Buddhist and eastern texts Nietzsche cites were flawed.

You may be right (I have no idea), but in this context it doesn't really matter as it reveals Nietzsche's thinking nonetheless.  The point is that Nietzsche contrasts the Bible to a way of thinking that permits oneself to get the upper hand, "to become perfection, to be ambitious of the highest art of living."  Whether this is actually written in the Manu Smriti is kind of immaterial.  Nietzsche's thinking is Nietzsche's thinking whether it was inspired by something mis-translated, ficitonal, or otherwise.

Metal / Re: Death/black metal on mainstream radio
« on: October 07, 2009, 04:06:40 PM »
I would be proud.  Abandoning metal because it is "mainstream" is silly and utterly reactionary.

Think about this:  historically, where has metal always been most popular, more accepted, and more "mainstream?"  Europe, Scandinavia, Norway.  I don't think it's a coincidence that this is where the best metal (I would argue) has come from.  I am concerned with listening to good, high-quality metal, not with being part of an "underground."  The ultimate goal should simply be:  more, new, good metal being released.  I contend that quality extreme or heavy metal entering the popular/mainstream conciousness does NOT NECESSARILY hurt the potential for more, new, good metal being released, as is seen in the history of metal in Europe, Scandinavia, Norway.  I'm not saying it will help metal, either, but if we see a complete absence of good metal being released or an even more precipitous drop in quality, in the coming years, I will eat my words.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: October 02, 2009, 11:10:19 PM »
Death Metal - Only death is real

Black Metal - Life is but a dream

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 22, 2009, 03:04:15 PM »
Well I think it's more fun to actually attempt to decide which is superior.  The "they are equal" argument or "there's no way to figure it out" argument are wishy-washy and boring.  Be daring!

This is why black metal is superior:

As a style, black metal offers some advantages: freed from the drum-leading tendencies of death metal, hence more through-composed open-phrase motif-driven (Summoning, Graveland, Burzum, Immortal, Darkthrone) composition, plus an aesthetic that is more clearly in line with Romantic ideals and less caught up in the modern, technological and individualistic.


Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:48:54 PM »
I disagree on women: there are many I have met who are over 120.

No question.  Same here.  But there are plenty who aren't who would probably still be pretty darn good at rearing children.

I would say this:  if you pass the character test, but fail the IQ test, you should be spared assuming you exhibit some REALLY exceptional quality like beauty or loyalty.

I think more people would not pass the character test than not pass the IQ test.  I just think it's harder to ascertain what is truly in the heart and soul as opposed to an IQ.

That being said, either way works for me.  I don't care about trash.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 21, 2009, 03:24:15 PM »
Sorry, but there have been just as many, if not more, death metal bands who have released 3 or more good albums as there are black metal bands. 

What black metal bands have done this?  Averse Sefira, Sacramentum, Burzum, Immortal, Darkthrone, Graveland, Ildjarn, Beherit, Bathory, Krieg, and Katharsis are the only ones that spring to mind.

Katharsis?  In any event, I agree with you.  I think there are probably more good death metal albums from top to bottom, than black metal albums.  However (and I know you didn't propose this, Cynical), I don't actually think this is a good way to decide which genre is "superior."  I would say compare the heights of both (top 3 albums or something).  If anything, I would say that the fact that high quality black metal is rarer indicates that it IS superior.

Metal / Re: Is Black Metal Superior to Death Metal?
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:31:33 PM »
It is as if one tears down the old rusted way and the other is the return to a more passionate lifestyle. 

Death Metal is Nietzsche's lion and Black Metal is Nietzche's child.

I mean that in a deep way as well.   Death Metal is too violent and destructive to actually hold an ideology along with it, while the more atmospheric black metal, while not as destruction, can indeed inspire.

I like this distinction and I'm buying it.  And if you buy it too, then that means Black Metal > Death Metal, because Nietzsche says Child > Lion.  I'm going with Black Metal, here.

Interzone / Re: Universal tolerance
« on: September 20, 2009, 02:24:39 PM »
My 2 cents:  the truly inimical are the criminal, the perverse, the decadent, passive-aggressive, bitter, resentful, depressed, impatient, lazy, and boring.  If you could identify these people, you could forego the IQ standard altogether.  As I see it, character/spirit/disposition-toward-reality-and-nature (whatever you want to call it) is more important than simple IQ.  It just seems rather base to me.  Think of all the beautiful women and great mothers (whose only intelligence is child rearing) we would lose to an IQ standard.

Metal / Re: FENRIZ: "90's black metal is for little kids"
« on: September 17, 2009, 02:19:24 PM »

New DARKTHRONE album preview

New Darkthrone album "Total Deaf": full track preview, cover art and tracklisting...

A high point for Antihumanism.com!  Good job.  I lurk/troll a few other boards and everyone seemed to either love it or actually believe it!  So Cargest, you actually did the songs?  you guys worked in tandem, then?  Equal credit to you too, then.  Good teamwork!

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