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Metal / [META] Best metal 1999-2009
« on: November 21, 2009, 12:22:44 AM »
I think one of the aspects where these lists fail is that they don't take in account the eras of metal. Eras don't take place neatly within decades, centuries, etc. Probably better would be to speak of for instance best of black metal 1991-1993, best of black metal 1993-1998 and then 1998 til present day. It puts everything in better perspective imo. An interesting question arises from this: did the last ten years of metal even produce any event so influential that the post-1998 timeline deserves separate eras? Or was it really just a constant stream of sewage that produced some interesting turds?


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Interzone / Economic crisis leads crowd to losing faith in capitalism
« on: November 09, 2009, 04:47:27 PM »
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Free market flawed, says survey
By James Robbins
Diplomatic correspondent, BBC News

Twenty years after the fall of the Berlin Wall, a new BBC poll has found widespread dissatisfaction with free-market capitalism. In the global poll for the BBC World Service, only 11% of those questioned across 27 countries said that it was working well. Most thought regulation and reform of the capitalist system were necessary. There were also sharp divisions around the world on whether the end of the Soviet Union was a good thing.

Economic regulation

In 1989, as the Berlin Wall fell, it was a victory for ordinary people across Eastern and Central Europe. It also looked at the time like a crushing victory for free-market capitalism. Twenty years on, this new global poll suggests confidence in free markets has taken heavy blows from the past 12 months of financial and economic crisis. More than 29,000 people in 27 countries were questioned. In only two countries, the United States and Pakistan, did more than one in five people feel that capitalism works well as it stands.

Almost a quarter - 23% of those who responded - feel it is fatally flawed. That is the view of 43% in France, 38% in Mexico and 35% in Brazil.

And there is very strong support around the world for governments to distribute wealth more evenly. That is backed by majorities in 22 of the 27 countries. If there is one issue where a global consensus seems to emerge from the survey it is this: there are majorities almost everywhere wanting government to be more active in regulating business. It is only in Turkey that a majority want less government regulation.

Opinion about the disintegration of the Soviet Union is sharply divided. Europeans overwhelmingly say it was a good thing: 79% in Germany, 76% in Britain and 74% in France feel that way. But outside the developed West it is a different picture. Almost seven in 10 Egyptians say the end of the Soviet Union was a bad thing and views are sharply divided in India, Kenya and Indonesia.



http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_depth/8347409.stm

People agree the system sucks but nobody has an actual solution. After all what system would be able to deal with the corruption of the masters and the unrealistic demands of the servants?

Related news:
Experts find that cornflakes are TRÜE METAL FOOD \m/

Yay communism! Metal cornflakes for all!

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Metal / The importance of image in music
« on: October 06, 2009, 04:16:05 AM »
A separate thread for the discussion that started here on the importance of image in music. Some excerpts:

Image is an integral part of metal. Seeing music and image as two separate things that can stand on their own is what started the decline of metal in the first place. Can you imagine the music of Burzum, Darkthrone or Morbid Angel being as powerful without the image those bands employed?


I understand that image has an importance, but all too often people around here get hung up on JUST the image of a band. I mean there is no set image for a band to have to make profound music.

Image doesn't make a band.

The point is that each release is a whole thing. Music, ideas, imagery and lyrics... all part of the art object.


I would love to get rid of album covers and song titles. It would get rid of posers, the bullshit and allow us to focus on the music. Symphony No. 1, Opus 29, Song 112 - what could be simpler than that? Let the music stand on its own: I say the less imagery given through non-musical media, the better position we are to judge the music and eliminate music with no ideas.


1.music
2.lyrics
3.cover art
4.actual views and personality of musician
5.press shoots/band image

Whilst you can take all these as one artistic product, it is possible to rank them in order of importance.


I agree with we hope you die and Conservationist. But I believe actual views and personality of musicians belongs on 2, after all if a band sings about stuff or has an image they're not serious about in one way or another then you'll probably lose a great deal of respect for them. I don't agree that it's possible to make great music while being a clueless dick, great minds produce great music, mediocre minds produce the lesser works. I can't think of any great album of which the cover sucks unless it's a re-release.

Some suggest that it is in the benefit of music that we ignore possible lame image/covers/lyrics/etc. but I'll ask of you isn't that how the decline in quality starts? Others say that while they enjoy the music of certain artists they also feel the image or personality are laughable. I'll ask of you why you can't enjoy the whole package and whether or not you may be suffering from some form of consumerism.

I think it's related to recognizing something as great or important contrasting with what has personal appeal, but that's what I think makes this topic so interesting. Music is the product of the personality of the artists and the image and emotions the band wants to project, so how is it even possible to believe the music is great while thinking their image is stupid?

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Metal / Heavy Metal videogame "Brütal Legend" to be released Oct. 13th
« on: October 02, 2009, 08:19:44 PM »
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Tim Schafer, the game's creative director, was inspired to create the game by his own past musical experiences. The game will feature the character of Eddie Riggs, voiced by Jack Black, a roadie who was transported to a fantasy world inspired by the artwork of heavy metal album covers. Eddie becomes the world's savior, leading the down-trodden humans against a range of supernatural overlords using a battle axe, his Flying V guitar infused with magical powers, and a customizable hot rod. In addition to Black, the game will feature voices of heavy metal musicians including Lemmy Kilmister, Rob Halford, Ozzy Osbourne and Lita Ford and other celebrities such as Tim Curry, as well as more than one hundred metal songs selected by Schafer for inclusion in the game.

The game also groups black metal with goths creating a race of blackened emos **vomits**

**wipes mouth and continues** I only just stumbled into this. Looks like Sam Dunn made a videogame or something. It seems to me that it had a lot of potential but was grotesquely dumbed down for the x-box crowd. Their official website has an interesting "making of" video. I like how they made the game world "metal" but I dislike how dumb everything else seems so far. Prepare to rock dudes... **sighs**
 
http://www.brutallegend.com
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Br%C3%BCtal_Legend


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Interzone / Kingdom of the Dwarfs
« on: September 29, 2009, 09:41:39 PM »
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I don't know if you have heard of this place. It's somewhere in Haikou. A village only with people with short statures. Pay the entrance fee and you can watch these people perform.

When I first heard this I pictured myself obscure freak shows from a hundred years back. I ended up having a fight with my Chinese family about it. Let me quote what my mother in law said

"They can't work anywhere, they are disabled people, so we have a village for them to live and be happy in. No one would hire a dwarf. In China we have villages like this for all kinds of people, like fat people, disabled people. This way they can get a steady income every month since people come and see them perform."

I really didn't know what to say to this... I for one thought it was completely outrageous that anyone with some kind of disability can't get a job. Then again women who has children can't get jobs either. I might have a "bad China day" but after 3 years in China, China keeps on surprising me with completely insane ways of dealing with "problems".

What do you guys think? Is this kind of place completely outrageous and inhumane or should we beleive the Chinese propaganda saying that "They are happy like never before inside this compund"

http://www.gokunming.com/en/forums/thread/1836/kingdom_of_the_dwarfs

What do the anus forums think? Personally I think it's a damn good solution.

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Metal / Metal FAIL Captured in a Single Image
« on: September 21, 2009, 01:13:12 PM »


Inspired by this thread but I couldn't bring myself to posting this pic there. So this gets its own thread.

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Interzone / Who has it hardest in society?
« on: August 01, 2009, 08:34:40 AM »
Two groups of people who have it hardest in society:

1. Those who are incapable of complaining and/or who's complaints are not heard
2. Those who are not allowed to complain and/or who's complaints are ignored

Complaining doesn't prove anything other than having low tolerance but I will explain my choice.

Look at it this way: does it even matter who has it hardest? For example: comparing oppressed African-Americans with oppressed white women is like comparing apples with oranges. Bring three people in a hospital with the same wound: one will scream, another will be in shock and the other will be talking calmly with the doctor. Which one is in the most pain? Asians get discriminated against just like any other minority but you'll rarely hear them complain about it as opposed to other ethnic groups. Complaining is entirely related to a person's tolerance, it doesn't say anything about reality except for the way that person views reality. Yet society measures who has it hardest by who complains the most.

So in that respect I think it's those who's complaints are somehow pushed aside in favor of other complaints have it the hardest in society. And of course those who's complaint go unnoticed. But I don't feel sorry for any of them, they will just need to work harder for a positive solution for their problem. Just complaining about things doesn't get you anywhere and only makes you annoying after a while. So my conclusion: fuck those who supposedly have it the hardest, sodomize the weak...


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