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Interzone / Under 120s gone: better or worse?
« on: April 22, 2012, 08:51:03 PM »
Why are people afraid to answer this question?

If all people under 120 IQ points died tomorrow, would life be better or worse?

Seems it should be simple, for nihilists or death metal fans.

Interzone / Trouble committing
« on: April 22, 2012, 10:05:55 AM »
I understand why modern people have a lot of trouble committing. To commit to anything is to put yourself at risk, and to predicate your success on its success. It is always safer to do nothing.

This originates like all of our failings in the family (this includes but is not limited to the related issue of breeding). Families force their children into positions of submission, so that the adults feel in control. The result is that children associate committing to anything with being in a position of submission.

Metal / Winglord - The Chosen One
« on: April 20, 2012, 04:26:40 PM »
Winglord - The Chosen One

"The Winglord style of ambient neofolk combines the infectious power of old industrial and synthpop, the ideas of black metal, the atmosphere of neofolk and the grandeur of movie soundtracks. If a Vangelis or Poledouris soundtrack ever took your breath away, you have an idea of the kind of emotional surge that this music imparts on a regular basis."


Relevant to fans of: Danzig - Black Aria, Beherit - Electric Doom Synthesis, Burzum - Hlidskjalf, Dead Can Dance, Tangerine Dream, Arcana, Blood Axis, Ildjarn - Landscapes & Hardanger-series, Basil Poledouris, Vangelis, Howard Shore, Kreuzweg Ost, Summoning, Ice Ages.

Full reviews:

Interzone / Mental health failure
« on: April 19, 2012, 10:21:20 PM »
Children who experience severe trauma are three times more likely to suffer from schizophrenia when they grow up, a new study suggests.

And the more severe the childhood trauma, the greater the risk of developing the mental illness, which affects people's emotional responses and ability to think logically, and in some cases, causes serious hallucinations.

"The causes of psychotic disorders, particularly schizophrenia, are a source of controversy amongst psychiatrists, psychologists and doctors. There is also disagreement about how the disorders are defined. It's not unusual, for example, for a patient to be diagnosed with schizophrenia by one psychiatrist, but as bipolar by another," co-author Richard Bentall said.


In a provocative new peer-reviewed study published in Clinical Epigenetics, researchers led by a former FDA toxicologist purport to have found a very real link between HFCS consumption and autism.

The study’s argument is complicated but deeply disturbing. It pieces together what’s known about the genetic and metabolic factors involved with autism, including the growing evidence of a link between autism and mercury and organophosphate pesticide exposure.

Essentially, HFCS can interfere with the body’s uptake of certain dietary minerals — namely zinc. And that, when combined with other mineral deficiencies common among Americans, can cause susceptible individuals to develop autism.


It just seemed so convenient, and a detail.

No one thought details added up.

Signs of a decaying time.

Interzone / "Doing something"
« on: April 19, 2012, 08:37:14 PM »
All revolutions start the same way:

A group of people get together, agree on their ideas, and then start spreading them.

We're in that phase now. We're in The Federalist Papers and The Communist Manifesto territory, not open war.

Figure out what you believe and bring it to the debate. We'll hammer it out and find clarity.

That debate is here:


Interzone / Pitfalls of high IQ
« on: April 19, 2012, 06:06:50 PM »
I think this is also a worth topic.

High IQ people are problematic in many ways: they aren't necessarily good at intellectual tasks that less intelligent people breeze by. They are good at some things however that no one else can do.

I'm going to say that the two most important are leadership and top-down design. I like Nietzsche's term for them: sensitive. Not like emos, like scientific instruments. They register more data.

That's the value of intelligence, not trying to make a better mid-level manager or criminal defense lawyer.

Interzone / Educators
« on: April 17, 2012, 04:42:32 AM »

There has always been a tension on this board, going back to its earliest days: between the "leadership" types and the "educators."

The leadership types see a problem, and want to use power for the solution. They are opposed by neocons and liberals, who talk about personal importance, validity, rights, etc.

The most vocal of those neocons and liberals are the "educators." These people acknowledge the problems out there, but are afraid to use power, so suggest that instead we "educate" people so they will avoid the disasters.

They are unable to point to any successes.

Interzone / Emo realism
« on: April 17, 2012, 04:42:18 AM »
We can translate the literal sentiments expressed in this forum into a socially-acceptable form so that it won't offend the morality you've been taught your whole life:

1. Send the under-120s to Africa. Why Africa? It's big and has low population density. We'll give each one the cash equivalent of 40 acres and a mule, and package them away. The US population will plunge to 80 million. However, over half of the federal budget obligations will disappear, pollution will be reduced, land use will be reduced, nature can recover, etc.

2. Don't end democracy; just make sure votes are "recommendations" to a ruling elite of brainiacs. Things are as normal. Everyone votes as usual, then our select committee of wise elders looks over the decisions and throws out the insane ones and replaces them with better ones.

3. Liberalism isn't insane; it's just the right philosophy for California and nowhere else. Set up a massive tax deduction for liberals moving to California. If the great liberal theory is correct, California will become paradise.We don't need to tell these people their beliefs are delusional this way.

4. Diversity? Let it run in parallel. Make Chinatowns for every group. They can do their thing there. The rest of us can live out in the suburbs and wonder what it's all like.

5. Dangerous stuff like fast food, alcohol, drugs, etc. Let's go all Ron Paul -- everyone loves this answer. Government accepting these things will mean they become a permanent part of the landscape, but maybe we can send a lot of educational pamphlets to the population.

Reading this should make everyone feel warm and happy inside. Hope, love, change. Isn't it grand?

Metal / The wild wests
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:53:39 PM »
There were several, in addition to death metal 1984-1994.

For example, geekcore:


When the rules are not yet defined, there is so much potential it is like a wave uncoiling. The earth moves at a single command.

Metal / Eric Hoffman to sodomize Glen Benton and Steve Asheim
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:51:53 PM »
"Let be known I am going to fix Steve Ashamed’s nose like he always wanted, fuck boy. As far as Glen Benton you wannabe Tommy Lee, that looks like he swallowed the Hoffmans, have not paid us in 7 years. You must not have remembered what happened to you when you stole my money last time. I have more towels to soak up your fucking head, you piece of shit. So shoot me and ask questions later, like you said. You got hired in DEICIDE from me, and steal my shit scumbag. I cant wait to see you 2 again."


Metal / Imprecation - Jehovah Denied
« on: April 15, 2012, 08:50:53 PM »

New IMPRECATION “JEHOVAH DENIED” now available through the band. 4 rites of pure blackened DEATH metal, strictly limited to 100 copies. This demo was recorded to mark the 20th year of the “Ceremony of the Nine Angles” demo release. Shirt is seperate, contact one of us for prices.


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