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Messages - Dinaric Leather

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Metal / Re: Classical vs. Metal
« on: March 30, 2011, 11:32:58 PM »
I think this is kind of an apples and oranges question. Sometimes I feel that Metal is more of a phenomena than a genre. The word classical means close to nothing, being an absolutely massive umbrella term for many disparate types of music. Unless you are speaking specifically of the Classical era of music, but even that is quite a large umbrella. These categories are more like descriptions than anything else.

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Metal / Re: Reinkaos
« on: March 23, 2011, 12:45:01 PM »
_______ had dark chord patterns at times, but seemed to have more 80's metal style riffing, and nothing that made me easily think of black metal or death metal (aside from the vocals and lyrics).  The mood of _______ was epic but also cheesy, and certainly not vicious.

so my take on it is basically that ______ was mediocre,
while old ______ was absolutely amazing.
I wonder how many comeback albums from old Metal bands can fit in this template

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Metal / Re: Classic Massacra Video
« on: March 23, 2011, 12:40:47 PM »
When I see a band with real intensity, I just watch. Moshing is best for bands like Toxic Holocaust where you won't miss anything.
Well then what the fuck is the point of going to the show? If I wanted to sit still and study the music I'd just plant my ass on the couch and crank up the surround sound. Like parasite said, when you go to a show you go there for the full physical experience.

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Metal / Re: Favourite metal poetry
« on: March 23, 2011, 12:36:20 PM »
NUCLEAR WAR GODS OF WAR, NUCLEAR WAR GODS OF WAR  x5
When my Metal naive friends ask me what my favorite Black Metal, I tell them it's all about the 3 B's: Blasphemy, Burzum, and Beherit. This is a poem from a Beherit piece close to my heart called "Metal of Death"

METAL OF DEATH
METAL OF DEATH
METAL OF DEATH
METAL OF DEATH
METAL OF DEATH
BLAAARRGH

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Interzone / Re: ANUS jihad against Gojira
« on: March 08, 2011, 09:30:47 PM »
Quote from: Laurent
get in touche with me
Look at these damn frogs.

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Interzone / Re: Sun possibly in trouble
« on: February 23, 2011, 08:41:50 PM »
Again, you have provided no behavioural evidence as to why you think mankind cannot survive.

You have merely stated what you think, not basing it on any concrete experience from what has already happened. Granted the situation is entirely hypothetical, and very very unlikely to happen.

Very rarely in nature do you see something with its back to the wall just curl up and die without any evidence of a fight. It's unheard of.
I never said mankind wouldn't survive, I wouldn't be surprised if we did or didn't. If I was you I might claim that you didn't really read what I typed, I said most people will be aware that they have little to contribute to such an effort so most of them will have to enslave or otherwise associate themselves with the brainy motherfuckers to survive and the ones unwilling to do that will probably just live out their normal hedonistic (not in the classical sense) lives either doubting or damning the impending destruction because something like the sun will be exploding soon won't be immediately obvious to everyone without the equipment or knowledge required to make such an inference. I don't see any "curling up and dying" in this scenario, in fact this would be very similar to tribal human society: If you are weak you have no choice but to enslave yourself to the strong or die.

And you know what, you got me, I don't have any "concrete" evidence I just have my anecdotal evidence of how I've seen humans behave in my experience. You didn't provide any concrete evidence either other than pointing out what people do in hurricane which is an immensely different situation, and if we're going to really get anal about this shit I could say that you provided no proof that most people really do go into survival mode in such situations seeing as how in hurricanes and other natural disasters people go looting and engage in all sorts of chaos. I do agree that many people would go into "survival mode" but most people aren't experienced as physicists and engineers enough to build a sick space ark so in this situation "survival mode" would be associating yourself with these people so they may take you with them off of the fucked earth.

I deliberately made that remark to see how closely you would read what I'd written. Obviously you just skimmed, because that is not what I said.
What about "It's fine for you to stereotype everyone or everything" or "but if you are only going to offer unfounded hypothesis, then I'm not going to take you very seriously"? It is true that my experience in the universe is minuscule indeed, but yours surely is too as are all humans are so whats the point of even mentioning that other than to try to insult me? Especially seeing as how you wrote it as if it only or especially applied to me. If you say shit like that in physical life than you must come across as a real prick.

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Interzone / Re: Sun possibly in trouble
« on: February 21, 2011, 06:47:32 PM »
Again. I disagree.

I live in a part of the world that just got a) flooded b) hit by one of the biggest cyclones in recorded history for this part of the world (category 5, slightly smaller than Katrina.

There was no utter panic up here. Everyone did what they did to save their homes & belongings, went into survival mode when the time came and got started helping each other clean up the mess when the danger had passed etc. About the only people that panicked, made a big drama were the government and the media. I found it enlightening that people who had just lost everything they'd worked their whole lives for just got on with it, and better yet still found the time to help others in their community despite the gloomy nature of the situation.

Do you have anything to add to the contrary?

It's fine for you to stereotype everyone or everything to suit your own small experience of the world (I don't say this in a derogative aspect, I am comparing your experience to the world as a whole) , but if you are only going to offer unfounded hypothesis, then I'm not going to take you very seriously.

Re Conservationalist; this guy has insulted / trolled on the internet for as along as I can remember. Honestly, I don't think a bit of banter is going to put him out of shape. It's cool he can look after himself.

PS: I also didn't insult him personally. I insulted his behaviour in linking an article that included 'armchair hysteria.' I have no control over the way he acted. My post had some information, his second did not (just solely existed to rail-road me because he felt butt-hurt).
Here's what I have to add to the contrary: There is a big fucking difference between a flood and the destruction of the earth as we know it, most busters realize they don't have the ability to escape the situation (unlike a flood) and will either practically or literally enslave themselves to those who can (the dudes building the space ark) or say fuck it lets go crazy and begin having wild sex, abusing drugs, killing and stealing etc.

Of course this would assume you'd be able to actually convince most people that the world is indeed fucked.

PS I also don't give a shit who you were or weren't trying to insult personally, but I'd like to thank you personally for letting me know you weren't trying to hurt my feelings by telling me that I stereotype the whole world, you don't take me seriously and that my opinion is unfounded. Not to mention letting me know my experience in the world is small and insignificant compared to your rad life dodging hurricanes, which unlike myself, gives you the foundation for making a prediction about what people do if the earth was destroyed in an astronomical catastrophe.

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Why are you saying muscle head like it's a bad thing!? What about Blasphemy? They're muscle heads but they're also great musicians.

I think that old school heavy metal is pretty sick right up until you turn 16 or so. You have to look at it for what it's worth.

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Interzone / Re: Sun possibly in trouble
« on: February 17, 2011, 11:52:40 PM »
So, let's recap.

You share with us the thoughts of the Fox News quality science brigade by thinking that sun is in trouble because its corona is leaking.

I say that this is a normal event and there's nothing to worry about.

And I am the one with toxic personality.

ROFL
I dislike all these "science" article people like to post around here as well, but you didn't just refute the article, you decided to insult conversationist for posting the article while the fact that the meat and taters of this thread was "If the sun were in trouble, would humanity get its shit together to ship a Noah's ark into space?" must have slipped your mind.

And if this happened, of course humanity wouldn't get its shit together, the more likely scenario would be that a small or several small independent groups would attempt to build a space ark while the rest of humanity panics and go mad with pleasure seeking before the end.

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Metal / Re: BACKYARD BURIAL vocalist stabbed in sleep
« on: February 17, 2011, 06:49:17 PM »
Are these guys big in NZ or something because I never heard of them.

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Metal / Re: Birth A.D.
« on: February 17, 2011, 06:47:29 PM »
I believe that Thrash is juvenilia, and the spirit that thrash projects is only possessed by those under 20 or so.

I think that people lose a certain spirit after 21

I think it varies with the people.

As far as thrash, nothing lasts forever -- it has to mature. It did with Four of a Kind and now it's time to update it, keeping the spirit alive.

The under-21s don't seem to be doing it, or with a few (like five max) notable exceptions, doing a goddamn thing of note (of quality).

Keep in mind that Bruckner, Beethoven, Schubert, and even Slayer wrote some of their best material after 21. Maturity isn't all bad. If you don't buy into bullshit definitions of maturity being wage-slavery and marrying an idiot and having idiot kids and keeping up with the Joneses, maturity can simply mean applying experience and knowledge to make a project that loses that juvenilia.

I think it varies with people as well, when I said after 21 I was just generalizing because thats the point where people tend to take their lives a bit more seriously, or at least take their non-seriousness more seriously.

Four of a Kind isn't usually considered to be on the same level as the dirty rotten LP or dealing with it for a reason, I don't really see it as a matured record, it just got updated with speed metal to make it more palatable. Which is unsurprising because like I said, the thrash spirit tends to fade in ones early 20s so. I know Slayer got even more thrashy after they hit 21 with RIB, but to me, it was an excellent record thats sadly a bit less convincing than No Mercy and Hell Awaits and as we know it was only downhill from there.

Of course those classic composers wrote some of their best material after 21, but I don't see why they're relevant because they weren't thrash and their music was aimed at a mature audience. As far as Slayer goes, I feel this supports my claim because their music started to become more and more artificial with every album after they hit 21. I don't buy into the modern definition of maturity and I don't see why you think I would, maturity is necessary part of life and just as maturity is important to have if one wants to create mature music, you must have an immature spirit to create immature music. Saying thrash should mature is like saying metal should be less contentious, it just defeats the purpose of thrash as a distinctive art form.

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Metal / Re: Birth A.D.
« on: February 13, 2011, 12:51:56 AM »
I think you're trollsk but in case not: what does the age of the players matter? If they're 15 and it's good, or if they're 45 and it's good, do we care?
I think you're homosk but in case not: I know I may have implied I don't like Birth AD in my post, I do enjoy Birth AD and I think they are reasonably talented musicians. However I believe that Thrash is juvenilia, and the spirit that thrash projects is only possessed by those under 20 or so. What Birth AD has created sounds more like death, speed, and thrash thrown into the blender with an (at least aesthetic) emphasis on the thrash.

By the way, what does trollsk mean to you? I'm not trying to be Mr. I. Conoclast but could it be deliberately disagreeing with the consensus of a particular community? I've been getting similar comments on this forum. I don't see what is so inconceivable about saying I think that people lose a certain spirit after 21 that it has to be some sort of joke or bait.

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Interzone / Re: Abe Lincoln wanted to separate the races
« on: February 11, 2011, 07:30:03 PM »
"Two of my favorite things are sitting on my front porch smoking a pipe of sweet hemp, and playing my Hohner harmonica." - Abraham Lincoln

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Metal / Re: Birth A.D.
« on: February 08, 2011, 06:36:40 PM »
The guys in Birth AD are just too damn old for thrash, they don't have that youthful vibe, are from an older generation and it shows in their attitude and aesthetics. If anyone is going to cause a thrash resurgence, it's going to be some 15 to 20 year old kids with a lot of spirit who have no idea what they're doing. This might be cool for you old people but those born in the 90's aren't seeing anything new here.

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Metal / Re: INMATE
« on: February 08, 2011, 06:25:36 PM »
I'll support this band if I see them drink their own piss and masturbate on the bible, but that will never happen because these guys are gay and most likely christian if not jewish.

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