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I think it varies with people as well, when I said after 21 I was just generalizing because thats the point where people tend to take their lives a bit more seriously, or at least take their non-seriousness more seriously.I believe that Thrash is juvenilia, and the spirit that thrash projects is only possessed by those under 20 or so.
I think that people lose a certain spirit after 21
I think it varies with the people.
As far as thrash, nothing lasts forever -- it has to mature. It did with Four of a Kind and now it's time to update it, keeping the spirit alive.
The under-21s don't seem to be doing it, or with a few (like five max) notable exceptions, doing a goddamn thing of note (of quality).
Keep in mind that Bruckner, Beethoven, Schubert, and even Slayer wrote some of their best material after 21. Maturity isn't all bad. If you don't buy into bullshit definitions of maturity being wage-slavery and marrying an idiot and having idiot kids and keeping up with the Joneses, maturity can simply mean applying experience and knowledge to make a project that loses that juvenilia.
Four of a Kind isn't usually considered to be on the same level as the dirty rotten LP or dealing with it for a reason, I don't really see it as a matured record, it just got updated with speed metal to make it more palatable. Which is unsurprising because like I said, the thrash spirit tends to fade in ones early 20s so. I know Slayer got even more thrashy after they hit 21 with RIB, but to me, it was an excellent record thats sadly a bit less convincing than No Mercy and Hell Awaits and as we know it was only downhill from there.
Of course those classic composers wrote some of their best material after 21, but I don't see why they're relevant because they weren't thrash and their music was aimed at a mature audience. As far as Slayer goes, I feel this supports my claim because their music started to become more and more artificial with every album after they hit 21. I don't buy into the modern definition of maturity and I don't see why you think I would, maturity is necessary part of life and just as maturity is important to have if one wants to create mature music, you must have an immature spirit to create immature music. Saying thrash should mature is like saying metal should be less contentious, it just defeats the purpose of thrash as a distinctive art form.
I think you're trollsk but in case not: what does the age of the players matter? If they're 15 and it's good, or if they're 45 and it's good, do we care?I think you're homosk but in case not: I know I may have implied I don't like Birth AD in my post, I do enjoy Birth AD and I think they are reasonably talented musicians. However I believe that Thrash is juvenilia, and the spirit that thrash projects is only possessed by those under 20 or so. What Birth AD has created sounds more like death, speed, and thrash thrown into the blender with an (at least aesthetic) emphasis on the thrash.
By the way, what does trollsk mean to you? I'm not trying to be Mr. I. Conoclast but could it be deliberately disagreeing with the consensus of a particular community? I've been getting similar comments on this forum. I don't see what is so inconceivable about saying I think that people lose a certain spirit after 21 that it has to be some sort of joke or bait.
The guys in Birth AD are just too damn old for thrash, they don't have that youthful vibe, are from an older generation and it shows in their attitude and aesthetics. If anyone is going to cause a thrash resurgence, it's going to be some 15 to 20 year old kids with a lot of spirit who have no idea what they're doing. This might be cool for you old people but those born in the 90's aren't seeing anything new here.
That is a good teaser, yes. Plato uses it sometimes, as well.A teaser is all you need. Our target as "trolls" is the intelligent disillusioned kid, who may not have been exposed to radical thought such as, "we are all not of equal ability, and 'education' will not turn a fool into a genius". Intelligence goes hand in hand with inquisitiveness, and thus he or she will probably continue to investigate the matter further. The unintelligent will continue to do what they do of course, and best case scenario is they try to give a retarded counter-point which will hopefully be recognized as such by the intelligent kid.
« on: February 08, 2011, 03:54:14 PM »
Is manasslove OK then?No but being a Cockrub Warrior is: http://www.heroichomosex.org/
It's been said before but I'd like to repeat that the best way to "troll" and cause potentially constructive controversy is to state an unpopular but simple truth with little verbal surplusage and no name calling or other symptoms of frustration.
« on: February 08, 2011, 12:02:02 PM »
conservative christians think every life is sacredNo, thats liberal "christianity".
« on: February 08, 2011, 11:55:41 AM »
I find it very difficult that women are bisexual and men aren't.Women aren't innately bisexual, they just don't have "homophobia" hardwired into their brains like the majority of straight males do. When women commit sexual acts with each other it's almost always either for male enjoyment or male resentment (attention).
I know I'm potentially derailing the thread but this has become epidemic. Biodegradable plastics aren't "fail", they're a failure. Do you think because you're using hip new fun ways to (ab)use words that you're going to get new converts to the ways of the ANUS or are you just thinking you're the funny man?
« on: January 27, 2011, 06:51:21 AM »
But of course (rational) women did have to look to the proles to learn how to be independent of their male captors.Can you elaborate on this bit right here?
http://www.chaosandpain.com/ this is one of the best lifting sites on the internet, I struggled for years from bad advice and this guy set me straightThis guy seems like he thinks he's really cool and really funny, but is really not (one might say he "fails" if one is a dipshit). He says he watches porn and he feels the need to include fuck in every article and every other paragraph and make extreme manly jokes about thinking its fun to watch women cry and how soccer is for little kids. I might as well go read The Best Page in The Universe because at least it doesn't have the pretense of being a helpful guide for strength training. Here are some of his insightful tips taken from his "10 commandments":
"Stop worrying about your form, already. Brute strength will get you pretty fucking far. The more weight you lift, the more strength you'll gain, and the bigger you'll get."
"For the love of all that's unholy, eat as much protein as you can. Fuck Joe Weider and his high carb nonsense - if you eat like a caveman, you'll look like one. Feel free to post all of the links you want about how Cro-Magnons and Neanderthals apparently ate grains - they ate MINUTE amounts of grains at best"
"Your genetics are not your greatest limitation - your mind is"
For people who don't care to read a 20 year old go off like he's John Madden: http://www.scoobysworkshop.com/
Let's stop thinking that genres are rigidly defined on the metaphysical plane, they're at base useful marketing devicesOlympic genre classification is a poseurs game, for sure.
Hokuto no KenThose poseurs are already dead.