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Interzone / Re: The Case Of The Mysterious Shoe.
« on: November 24, 2013, 09:18:56 AM »
I didn't know Britain still had wild animals, let alone foxes.

Well foxes are one of those rare animals that thrive in urban environments, much like cats, rodents and any number of birds.  The types of creatures that survive in urban environments are generally scavengers and/or very adaptable.  Animals that specialize in living in specific environments do not do so well.

Metal / Re: What Band are you listening today?
« on: November 11, 2013, 04:54:10 AM »
Morpheus Descends - Ritual of Infinity

I am ashamed to never have listened to this album until a few weeks ago. The Florida and New York death bands speak to me in a profound sense and this album is an exceptional example of the styles. Much more mystical and evil version of Suffocation, but lacking in instrumental prowess compared to Effigy or Pierced. A good trade, though, in the end.

If someone asked me "what is death metal?", that is the album I would show them.  It's probably the most archetypal example of the style imo.

Metal / Re: Quantity-- just quit
« on: October 30, 2013, 12:45:41 AM »
I think it is possible to have a large output and retain a high level of quality.  One need only look to classical music where nearly all well known composers wrote enormous amounts of music relative to modern day artists, and yet the quality levels rarely dropped significantly.  I think this reveals two things, firstly that metal lacks a formalized technique and so the artist must spend a significant amount of effort trying to "reinvent the wheel" every-time they compose something.  Secondly modern day artists are not able to retain a high level of artistic insight and inspiration in the surroundings of the modern world.  Rather than growing in wisdom and insight as they age, like many classical greats (Bach, Beethoven, Brahms and the list goes on), heavy metal musicians tend to lose their passion and become absorbed by the triviality of the modern world so that they are pale shadows of themselves as artists by the time they reach their 30s.

Interzone / Re: Magical utility
« on: October 29, 2013, 03:24:51 AM »
science is just a form of magic in a way.

I think it is more accurate to describe magic as a type of science, but this requires that one understands by the word science the traditional meaning of that word which is, generally speaking, the study of the practical applications of knowledge.  In this case, magic may be described as the science of attaining tangible results from subtle causes through various methods.  The modern conception of science as nothing other than the empirical study of the material world is fundamentally inadequate.

It may be worth noting here that in general magic is not regarded as being particularly profound or significant by any tradition.  Since it deals primarily which the attainment of tangible results which are vastly inferior to the attainment of metaphysical knowledge.  Magic holds fascination for moderns for precisely this reason.  It may also be a significant distraction for anyone seeking spiritual knowledge since people  tend to become intoxicated by its results and the power that they bring.

Interzone / Re: Subjects in death metal lyrics
« on: October 27, 2013, 05:03:48 AM »
Good thread!  One development in metal lyrics that I find interesting is the push towards an almost theological approach in lyrics of bands like Deathspell Omega and similar acts.  Unfortunately their execution (lyrically and musically) is quite poor.  I would hope that future groups can take this idea and improve on it.  One possible example is SVEST, whose album Urfaust is quite brilliant, although I haven't heard their other work.

This may seem like a strange thing to say but I think that finding suitable subject matter for lyrics goes a long way towards creating quality metal.  Once you have found the concepts which inspire you the music comes quite easily in my experience.

Metal / Re: anus.com top 15 death metal albums torrent!
« on: October 27, 2013, 04:57:40 AM »
Already own 'em all but I'll seed for a while, spread the word!

Also I suggest putting some anus.com texts/propaganda into future torrents like this.

Interzone / Re: How music listening changes over time
« on: October 16, 2013, 05:44:55 PM »
Well I'm not sure I would put it like that, but I do think that to enjoy music which is extremely rhythmic one has to resonate with what one might call a 'climate of cataclysm'. 

This applies more to death metal though rather than stuff like the Summoning that someone linked in this thread.  Most of that is more reminiscent of folk music in its approach, in which case the rhythms are part of a more naturalistic outlook closely linked to the inherent rhythms of nature and particularly the human body (ie. heartbeat and breathing etc.).

Interzone / Re: How music listening changes over time
« on: October 16, 2013, 03:37:50 PM »
I would probably listen to far more music than I do, if I hadn't realized that the rhythms inherent to music tend to turn me into a witless, bopping, automaton.

That's an interesting take on the issue.  You're right in saying that, to some extent, pulse is inherent to music, although the nature of the pulse and the emphasis placed on it can vary widely.  In modern popular styles the music is stripped bare of virtually all melodic and harmonic content so the rhythmic pulse is most of what remains, especially when you add a drum kit to emphasize it further. 

I think you will find that any musical genres which do not include percussion as a primary instrument will have a far less obtrusive pulse, this is especially the case with much choral music.

The rest of us however will continue to enjoy our primal driving rhythms as we welcome the coming apocalypse.

Interzone / Re: Murphy's Law.
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:27:56 AM »
I could watch this show just for the guy's accent!

Metal / Re: Morbid Angel > Incantation
« on: September 22, 2013, 08:20:24 AM »
Onward to Golgotha and Blessed are the Sick are both phenomenal releases but they are two completely different interpretations of the death metal genre.  I couldn't really say which is superior in an absolute sense. 

As far as the rest of their work is concerned, I think Incantation have been more consistent.

Metal / Re: Gorguts
« on: September 06, 2013, 09:15:04 PM »
The progression from The Erosion of Sanity to Obscura is a good example of why it is important to master a style before attempting to evolve it.  Gorguts mastered the technique and composition of traditional death metal and then expanded upon that, rather than trying to be "unique" and "innovative" from the outset.  Their concern at this stage was about musical composition rather than image.

Interzone / Re: Coping with cold climate in outdoor life
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:48:00 PM »
Probably the most difficult experience I've had in the wilderness was a hike I did over about a week, where I severely misjudged the difficulty of the terrain and consequently was traveling much slower than expected.  Since I only had enough supplies for the time I had allowed to begin with, I had to hike from dawn until well after dark each night to arrive at my destination on time.  This meant no time or energy for shelter, fire, cooking etc.  Just cold food and cold nights, I must say after that experience I was very glad to be home.  In my environment it's quite possible to set up camp in the bush and live quite comfortably, not in the same sense as living in a city but it certainly isn't like you're at high risk of losing your life.  The word comfort takes on a different meaning when you're talking about wilderness living.  It doesn't mean you have 24 hour access to fast food and television, more like you have a warm place to sleep and you aren't painfully hungry all day every day.

I can see how this might be different in extremely cold climates, although I would still have thought that if you're set up somewhere long enough to have a decent shelter you should be able to live quite well.

Interzone / Re: the bite of the apple
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:34:43 PM »
Yes this is exactly what the story from Genesis was about.  Once desire takes control of us it destroys our souls.

Interzone / Re: Liberalism causes terrorism
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:09:09 AM »
...unless these character shortages are so massive that they undermine the underlying economic base...

I think that was the point...

Interzone / Re: Coping with cold climate in outdoor life
« on: May 16, 2013, 07:05:16 AM »
Having a semi-permanent shelter with the capacity for an indoor fire should be sufficient to keep you quite comfortable down to fairly low temperatures.  In very cold climates sleeping without any shelter is certainly a bad idea.  Of course if you want a semi-permanent shelter this means you will be setting up in one place for at least a few days, so we're not talking about hiking here, but I'm more interested in wilderness living as opposed to hike-through type adventures.  Where I live I don't very often have to put up with extreme cold, although the winters are still very uncomfortable without some form of shelter however I'm not usually at risk of dying if I don't have one.

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