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Metal / National Day of Slayer Toronto Canada 2010
« on: February 11, 2010, 10:23:54 PM »
I think the Toronto Hessian's should organize an event for this years International Day of Slayer. Perhaps we can seek out a small venue and have some bands play live to commemorate this day. It would be great to simply have the Hessian Community here in the GTA finally act as a community, even if we start small this year and gradually grow larger.Use this thread to promote good ideas for this day, to mention affordable venues and hence fundraising ideas, and to mention your band or a band you know who may be willing to play that evening, although they may not get payed.

I think if we start organizing now we could have a successful International Day of Slayer. The earlier we have everything figured out the earlier we can start promoting and contacting local newspaper to get some publicity for the event and the day as a whole.

Metal / Re: NIRVANA 2002 retrospective released
« on: February 08, 2010, 12:51:21 PM »
...... and I agree with K......

(just for clarification: when i said "these parts" i meant where i am actually from, not the this forum")

Metal / Re: NIRVANA 2002 retrospective released
« on: February 08, 2010, 08:27:31 AM »
My words were meant to imply that it may not actually be that interesting after all.

My exact words were:
"With that said it is certainly not essential but it is interesting from a historical point of view i suppose."-
The nature of the statement (" I suppose") was supposed to hint at my suspicion that this may not be that interesting from a historical perspective after all.

I also never meant to imply that the album was a classic, so much as that people are starved for a more swedish death metal sound (including and perhaps limited to the mere aesthetic).

Around these parts, there is no hype for any metal bands so i was surprised to hear that this band was overrated. Your experiences have obviously been different from mine.

Of course i can understand your being wary of hearing that something is a classic and being promoted as such etc, etc because its any easy way to sell an inferior product to people who want to be "kult", and then having an unwarranted album gain the attention a  true classic album deserves.

Metal / Re: NIRVANA 2002 retrospective released
« on: February 07, 2010, 07:17:00 PM »
I found this release for 10 bucks used today and picked it up. Sounds like entombed/dismember.

With that said it is certainly not essential but it is interesting from a historical point of view i suppose.

Overrated? I had never heard of this band before. If they are overrated perhaps it is because people are starved for more classic swedish death metal...

Metal / Re: Preserving metal history
« on: February 07, 2010, 11:26:35 AM »

Some pretty neat stuff and hard to find stuff available for download, including the Cartilage demo "In Godly Flesh".

Metal / Re: New Burzum album info
« on: February 04, 2010, 10:21:16 PM »
Seems to be a general sense of dissapointment 'round these parts. Perhaps our expectations for the new Burzum are too high? Give the man some credit, if after 6 albums he makes one album that isnt his best i wouldnt stress it. Im just glad he has retained a sense of melody even if it is derivative of his own work.

Interzone / Re: Solutions for the new article Oncology
« on: January 31, 2010, 09:28:28 PM »
Q- What is the differenece between a principle and a goal?

Principle: God exists and is both the source of reality and its manifestation.
Goal: attain the highest level of realty.
Sub Goal: create values that facilitate the attainment of the above goal

There exists a natural reciprocity between the two..

Have i understood the distinction?

Do principle's imply holism? perhaps a general or universal outlook such as the above?

Metal / Re: UNTIL THE LIGHT TAKES US black metal movie
« on: January 27, 2010, 05:40:33 PM »
Anyone planning the to go the Toronto screening?

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 27, 2010, 05:34:29 PM »
I did not know that one track could cause such a stir really. I was only casually commenting on some of the things i noticed about the track. It is nice to see that this many people are passionate about Immolation though.

I also hope the album will be good.

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 26, 2010, 11:16:11 PM »
Indeed Kontinual. In all honesty I appreciate your calling me out on my statements.

My initial comment was based on my first listen of the track. Although i think i was correct in my summation at the time, the sum of a song is not always equal to its parts which upon my initial listen i liked (did i mention i dont have the most subtle sense of hearing?), and recognized as Immolation. With that said I also usually get overly excited when i hear music by bands i enjoy and tend to overstate how good the music is. I always bounce between extremes before finding an equilibrium. Repeated listens usually reveal cracks in the music, some of which i discovered, namely some of the rushed or unsteady riffs as noted. Although i agree with the fact that this is only one track and will reserve my complete judgement until i hear the whole album (whereupon i will not comment until i have had a few listens of it, hahaha).

Nonetheless, my cycle of judgement is simply based upon repeated listens of "The Purge". Even my initial comment made note of the fact that something was amiss, that which repeated listens was able to reveal for me.

In order to better understand the song i went back and listened and compared some tracks on CtaWB and Failures and came to my conclusions regarding the track. However, to condemn the entire album or band at this point in time is indeed presumptuous.

The Rut comment: This was probably an unfair comment,I admit this.

Taking the song to be a representative of whats to come on this album (rightly or wrongly), i was merely making the statement that Immolation may be hitting a creative rut, perhaps i should have made what i was saying clearer, rather then get carried away with the conversation.

The sentence may have been better read as " IF this new song (one which contains some good things, and some bad things, and since my first listen i have re-evaluated) is a representation of the whole album perhaps Immolation are beginning to hit a ceative rut- IF this is the case, new inspiration, new form, new subjects and clear messages are keys to a reinvigoration of the band"

Hopefully this clarifies my position.......If not,hopefully this makes for good conversation....:)

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 25, 2010, 09:25:31 PM »
2. Fan expectations (if you make us feel inadequate, we'll stop buying your records)


Balancing a  musical vision with its receptivity on the part of the listener is tricky. The metal fan has gotten less and less intelligent,Immolation knows this and in order to convey any message at all may have intentionally simplified their music to appeal to the less intelligent metal head. Thus, alienating the older fan base who generally represent the upper echelons of the metal communities hierarchy of listeners.

Of course, this may be a simple rut- Immolation may simply not be inspired and are unable to channel their musical vision or imagine themselves putting forth a musical vision beyond that of death metal. New inspiration, new form, new subjects and clear messages are keys to a reinvigoration of the band.

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 22, 2010, 01:26:44 PM »
Having gone back and listened to earlier Immolation albums, there also seems to be a self assured understanding of the art in their earlier albums. Riffs are brooding and Immolation seems well in control of what they are doing, there is no rushing through riffs. This does not seem to be the case on "The Purge". The riff after the acoustic breakdown also seems unsteady, something i can rarely say about riffs in earlier works.

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 21, 2010, 09:17:13 PM »
Interesting synopsis of the track. However, i am unsure whether i woudl agree that their is a deathcore style of making riffs shockingly different from one another. Perhaps i do not have the most subtle ears. Nonetheless i believe it is the abrupt transitioning that makes the song seem unfocused, or "deathmetalcorish", not neccessarily each riff being shockingly different in and of themselves.

Repeated listens have revealed a few suspicions:

1. This may be music for the sake of music
2. There are signs of a band struggling to find an identity or voice

3. It is curious that i did not notice much of a behemoth/nile influence, probably because these bands were influenced by Immolation and now immolation is being influenced by bands that they influenced. We are now at a copy of copy and that much further removed from "reality" perhaps? This is what will probably trick me into liking the album or song. However time always tells, whats good is remebered and provides a lasting  musical experience.

Metal / unsung heroes?
« on: January 20, 2010, 07:40:50 PM »
Has anyone heard any output from the band Miasma? They seem to have been around at a relatively early stage of death metal.

Likewise with Ripping Corpse. Whats the concensus regarding "dreaming with the dead" around these parts?
I just got this record and i cant figure out whether i like it yet or not. Many of the songs seem to blend into one another,very little is memorable IMHO, beyond some groovy riffs which are generally the worst ones on the record. However i keep coming back to it,hoping it is not as generic as it seems.

More listens await.....

Metal / Re: Immolation reveal new album details
« on: January 20, 2010, 07:41:17 AM »
Im not sure i hear the Nile/Behemoth/Cannibal Corpse influence, but i do not listen to any of those bands. A more complete exposition explaining the problem with the song would be beneficial. I think their may be something to Immolation making their music more accessible, this may explain the lack of signature dissonance, a toned down verison of it anyhow. I noticed that guitar squeals have turned into low end bends, creating a groove quality to the music at points. Lets be gracious for the time being and give Immolation the benefit of the doubt?

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