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Messages - Tancred Hauteville

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Interzone / Re: Superior? To what?
« on: August 19, 2013, 06:18:08 AM »
Perhaps mankinds higher nature is a pinnacle of creation, versus each individual per se?
Does man actually need a lot of stuff?
What animal creates music? art? poetry?
Maybe that was the trade off?

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Interzone / Re: Spiritualism
« on: August 19, 2013, 06:11:49 AM »
genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A22&version=KJV

genesis 1:26
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26&version=NIV

If I read it correctly, the Christian and jewish God is in fact several ones.  How do you interpret it?

God is an undivided Trinity...... The three in one and one in three......

That would be the father, the son and the holy spirit If I remember well. Jesus must be the son. What would be the diference between the father and the holy spirit? Is the entity of Yahveh is mostly the father figure or the is he allways the three at the same time? It's all a little blurry to me.

Don't burn too many calories trying to make sense of it. The Christian legend is just a vile distortion of pre-Judeo mysticism that is much more clear on the matter. In the beginning was the Father (Being) and Mother (Nothingness), and their union created the Child (the Universe).

I refrain from making any specific implications, but it is an interesting question; why did Christians removed the "Mother" from the original Trinity?

Actually the next obvious question would be who created the nothingness with which the Father united with? Have they both existed from all time? If that's is the case than what implications follow? Are the father, mother and child mutually exclusive, thus implying their own exclusively inherent divinity, therefore also implying a sort of polytheism? I get the feeling we are not really talking about the same Trinity to be quite frank. Catholics have a mother by the way, the Virgin Mary. Maybe, "mother" was removed from the "original" trinity because a new revelation deemed it false?

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Interzone / Re: Spiritualism
« on: August 18, 2013, 10:21:16 PM »
genesis 3:22
And the Lord God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live for ever:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+3%3A22&version=KJV

genesis 1:26
26 Then God said, “Let us make mankind in our image, in our likeness, so that they may rule over the fish in the sea and the birds in the sky, over the livestock and all the wild animals,[a] and over all the creatures that move along the ground.”

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis+1%3A26&version=NIV

If I read it correctly, the Christian and jewish God is in fact several ones.  How do you interpret it?

God is an undivided Trinity...... The three in one and one in three......

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Interzone / Re: Spiritualism
« on: August 17, 2013, 07:44:49 PM »
I was raised a post Vatican II Catholic. In my adulthood I have come to recognize myself as an aspiring Traditional Catholic. I went through "atheism", "scientism", "New Age", "Hinduism", "Esoteric Hitlerism", and "Paganism" and while I found them helpful in guiding me, I find myself drawn to the Mysteries of Catholicism, to the idea of the Church Militant, to the historical precedent of religious military orders,i.e., Templars, to the writings of the Church Fathers and to the fact that much of what was noble in pagan European thought was retained in Catholicism. The Lord of the Rings and the writings of Tolkien have also played a vital role in my re-evaluation of Catholicism. I suppose my Irish/French ancestry also predisposed me towards Catholicism in the first place. In addition, I think Catholicism represents the last living bastion of genuine Tradition in Europe, if Catholicism can be saved from itself it could provide a defence against all that is decadent in modern Europe.

My beliefs: Man is fallen, his salvation lies in a conformity to a providentially ordered and enchanted universe. Through prayer, piety, Love and metaphysics one attains an understanding of unltimate reality and conforms his will to that reality.

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Interzone / Re: Suggestions
« on: April 18, 2013, 12:09:24 AM »
1. Daily updates; these are likely getting lost becase people dont tend to hit the "older posts" button in order to see what was posted 6 months ago. With the plethora of new posts coming out, you might want to think about havng them automatically sent to each sub section of the site, i.e., the Supuration interview is not available in the "Interview" sections. None of the your new reviews are available in the "Reviews section". Ive always found this odd. If you dont want them included in what was transfered from the other sites you might want to include a sub page in the "reviews" section where these can be placed and thus more easily accessed at a later date.

2. The "Webzine" section is messy as hell, it seems like a hole that some random shit got thrown into. Some more coherency here would be nice.

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However, as I mentioned earlier I know for a fact that a small minority of those people who left did so with good will, neither deprecating you, nor acting as detractors....they simply disagreed with you.


Most people however oppose this direction because they want a clubhouse, and I don't think we should shy away from bashing that narrow-minded short-sighted mentality.

Yes, that may be true for many of the people that "left", but not all and I think that has been lost sight of here.

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Why do people ask "why"? Is it really a desire to understand? Or more a statement of disagreement and resistance?

It can be both I suppose, it depends on the context and the disposition of the person at a given time. They may have a genuine desire for truth and thus ask "why" in order to learn. Others ask "why" out of resentment for the given, in order to rationalize a way out of the constraints imposed upon them by reality, like child when they are told they cannot have a chocolate bar.

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You sound bitter about the fact that some people decided that they did not like the direction you took deathmetal.org in. Now you are reaching out to find new writers, when you had a whole slew of people who admired, respected, and wanted to write for, and in collaboration with you.

That's true. Why did they leave, do you think?
Did they leave? Were they abandoned? Perhaps they are disillusioned? I have no doubt some feel betrayed by the new direction of the site. However, as I mentioned earlier I know for a fact that a small minority of those people who left did so with good will, neither deprecating you, nor acting as detractors....they simply disagreed with you.

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I was not reffering to the overall tone of the post, just one section. Yes, he knows exactly what he is doing... and what he has done.


Whether or not the help is helpful, well if it isnt helpful it isnt help at all is it? However, it is worth keeping in mind that some helpful people who worked for this site in both its current and previous manifestation have disassociated themselves from this site. Why is it that those who have done this are now considered "failures", "defected", etc etc. As far as I remember there were no harsh words between parties, and in fact the "splinter groups" threw out an olive branch and specifically stated that they wanted to work alongside Prozak/Stevens, not compete with him.

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You sound bitter about the fact that some people decided that they did not like the direction you took deathmetal.org in. Now you are reaching out to find new writers, when you had a whole slew of people who admired, respected, and wanted to write for, and in collaboration with you.

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Interzone / Re: Save the world
« on: November 22, 2012, 09:28:31 PM »
How does one obtain this "proceation license"?

I dont disagree, completely, with your suggestions but why not focus on promoting the cultural values that reflect a people's metaphysical vision? The "government" would not have to do half the stuff you just mentioned if such was the case. We need to keep in mind that when you take something away, the "hole" that is left is filled by something else. Take away TV's and people will turn to something equally as obnoxious and mind numbing. The only way to combat this is to provide people with a sense of identity and purpose to their life, the motivation and belief that life is not to be wasted merely enteraining oneself perpetually. Culture/Religion (the corporeal manifestaion of the metaphysical principles inherent in a given people) provide people with an impetus to change their life and live in accordance with an ideal that transcends theire ego (but does not negate it).

Change to world?.... "Change your life"

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Metal / Re: 'One Man Metal' documentary -- Xasthur comes out the closet
« on: November 14, 2012, 11:17:38 PM »
Meh, Xasthur doesnt seemd weird, he seems like he is an overgrown teenager living on welfare......

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Interzone / Re: Book Recomendations
« on: October 14, 2012, 06:51:01 PM »
Recommended:

Ideas have Consequences by Richard Weaver

The Discarded Image by C.S. Lewis

Religion and the Rise of Western Culture by Christopher Dawson
 
Liberalism is a Sin by Fr. Salvany

The Oath against Modernism by St. Pius X

The Divine Comedy by Dante

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Interzone / Re: What have you been reading lately?
« on: September 23, 2012, 03:20:03 PM »
I am re-reading The Arabian Nights. I read them in my youth and they have taken on a new life as I see them through older eyes.

I've never actually read the text (though most of use know of accounts of the the popular tales). Shall have to give that a go at some point. Can you recommend a good english translation (bonus if they have the arabic text as well ;))

"Lord of the Rings" and "An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith" by John Damascene

I've recently re-read Lord of the Rings as well. I keep finding new and hidden meaning where I least expected it. Whether Tolkien intended anything other than a mythology, or "invented history" with his works (he frequently claimed he didn't) is unknown; he certainly praised a certain type of...nature (I think is the right word) in his mythology.

To this end, I've been (re)reading his The Silmarillion to understand the basis for what he writes about in the more well-know LoTR books. Interesting reading so far. There is certainly more to this than what fatty Jackson's movies have shown. And I don't (only) mean that in the superficial sense (i.e. "the movie doesn't have events x y and z in it),

I do not think Tolkien ever claimed that. If he did claim that he was writing a mythology, you are dimishing the importance of mythology. You may find his "Letters" insightful in this regard. At the very least he disliked allegory and his work is not an allegory in any way. Nonetheless Tolkien was concious of the fact that LOTR was a profoundly Catholic work (Sorry to burst anyones bubble here). Moreover, he does point out that the main theme of the work is about God's right to grant power and glory. How LOTR was shaped by Tolkiens Catholicism (yes, he was pious Catholic) is less explicit than one might expect but it is nonetheless a reality when one begins to dig deep into LOTR.

Might I also recommend The Road to Middel Earth by T.A. Shippey

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Interzone / Re: What have you been reading lately?
« on: September 20, 2012, 12:46:29 AM »
"Lord of the Rings" and "An Exact Exposition of the Orthodox Faith" by John Damascene

By the way Crow you are right, No one has ever thought that without the infiltration of arbitrary thoughts only shining reality would remain, only you have ever thought this.

Maybe you think too much?

 :P

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