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Interzone / Pre-Carcass Degenerate Medical Poetry
« on: December 02, 2009, 07:47:51 AM »
From Wikipedophile:

"Benn started as an expressionist author before World War I when he published a small collection of poems (Morgue, 1912) concerned with the physical decay of the flesh.

    His poetry offers an introverted nihilism: an existentialist philosophy which sees artistic expression as the only purposeful action. In his early poems Benn used his medical experience and terminology to portray a morbid conception of humanity as another species of disease-ridden animal. — John Collins (Bullock & Woodings, 1984, p.61)"  <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gottfried_Benn>

And here's a poem out of his five-poem series "Morgue":

Little Aster

A drowned beer-hauler was heaved onto the slab
Someone had wedged a lavender aster
between his teeth
As I reached through the chest
under the skin
with a long knife
to cut out the tongue and palate
I must have bumped the flower, for it slid
into the brain lying alongside
I packed it into the chest cavity
with the sawdust
as we sewed up
Drink your fill in that vase!
Rest in peace,
little aster!

You can read more here: http://supervert.com/elibrary/zips/benn_morgue_pdf.zip

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Metal / Re: Hipsters Fight Back
« on: November 29, 2009, 08:21:40 PM »
It sounds like you care too much. You must be a hipster.

You called someone a hipster.  You must be a hipster.

OH SHI-

Is anti-trend still the trend, by the way?  I tend to lose track of these things.  Since I'm amazingly cool and not a hipster.  Know what I mean?

I'm definitely not anti-hipster, as talking about the entire subject annoys the living hell out of me. However, I can also definitely realize when someone is using ideas as adornment only, and are on a sort of constant advertising campaign to promote themselves. I think this is the idea of "hipster" that most people here attack.

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Interzone / Re: Why people hate this forum
« on: November 28, 2009, 07:24:21 PM »
Sharing practical knowledge works well, but sharing opinions rarely results in anything of value.

Can forums actually accomplish anything (particularly ones full of fanboys)?

If we hypothetically elevate Star Trek to the same social status as philosophy/art and discuss that, will the forum be any different?

Everyone knows Picard is better than Kirk and Burzum is better than Xasthur.

Personally, I've grown tired of this sort of discussion. I enjoy articles like the recent explanation of the differences between death metal and metalcore on examiner.com by Brett Stevens, as it created an almost mechanistic blueprint of the constituent elements of each genre in order to create a fairly unbiased comparison. Other than that, I feel the most positive discussion is one in which the users at this forum effectively discuss ideas and their implications, but the forum seems to have a large user-base that prefers to make others feel inferior for not adopting what they've defined as the right ideas, and these users also seem primarily fueled by a sense of resentment against an outspoken dislike of a particular idea or metal band (in worse cases). Some of these users annoy me with their keen ability to side-track discussion, and unfortunately I often fall into their trap by smarting off back to them. However, I understand that a small group of forum trolls are here to bring out the users who have created a sort of sand-castle perspective of themselves; you know, those who feel that their failures are justified because they are anti-modern, or whatever. I support what they do, because they encourage productive discussion and make a satire out of brandishing the ego.

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Interzone / Re: Resume Construction!
« on: November 28, 2009, 07:16:50 PM »
I've got my own opinions about this that I talk about in the "Why People Hate This Forum" thread.

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Interzone / Re: Subjectivity and Richard Rorty
« on: November 27, 2009, 07:36:10 PM »
I think we need a clear definition of objective and subjective here. The objective pertains to objects, or the function or essence of what a thing is. The subjective is what category an object is placed into, which is a distinction made by perception only.

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Metal / Re: Metal orthodoxy
« on: November 26, 2009, 02:22:39 AM »
Let the morons think what they are listening to is the best. Keep them from the real good stuff.

Who's talking about morons? There are people out there looking for good music, but haven't had the experience of finding it, so don't know what to look for. We can offer an alternative point of view for those who can appreciate it.

The DLA managed to re-ignite my interest in metal when I had just about lost it, so it does help that small percent of people out there who are able to understand the ideas it presents.

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Metal / Re: Metal orthodoxy
« on: November 21, 2009, 07:01:45 PM »
This was our least popular blog post in recent memory.

People are looking for easy answers, like "be kvlt" or "don't be kvlt" and found our introspection alarming.

We will not repeat this mistake.


I found the blog post very insightful, and offered no commentary simply because I had nothing more to add. However, I commend you on feeling that you could deliver the content in a manner that speaks to your audience more clearly when your first attempt doesn't seem to be popular. Always improve!

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Interzone / Re: Militarism, Masculinity, Metalheads
« on: November 19, 2009, 06:46:04 PM »
I suggest you find a high ranking traditional chinese martial arts master and train under him. The military is an entirely secular institution whose sole purpose is to defend (whatever that means) a country. Do you really want to put your life on the line so that Exxon Mobil has access to oil? Dont believe all these idfeals people construct around war.  It has nothing to do with the mental and spiritual  (ie ethical) growth. Becoming a complete person is something eastern culture has pursued for 5000 years in very tangible and embodied ways (zazen, qi gong, kung fu) and is, philosophicall, far superior to anything you will learn at the military if personal growth is your goal.

I wholeheartedly encourage martial arts training. The self-discipline and well-being that is cultivated in such a practice is unrivaled. However, I feel that not all positive views about war are simply attempting to glorify it for egotistical reasons. I, for one, simply react to my surroundings. If those reactions require force; than so be it.

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Interzone / Re: Militarism, Masculinity, Metalheads
« on: November 19, 2009, 01:53:59 AM »
Ironically, metalheads are definitely not a particularly macho or assertive bunch. Paradox? Not really. I think metalheads as a class have low self-esteem but unlike most youth subcultures they have an idea of what they'd like to be. Part of that vision involves not being a metalhead.

Maybe I'm wrong, but it seems like you are referring to the internet era "metalhead" and not to the original self-starters they base their image on.

No. I'm specifically referring to the metal underground, when metal listeners in my view really set themselves apart from the mainstream and from rock music. However, I'd venture the generalization that "metalheads have low self-esteem" was true more or less for each generation. They have a strong identity but at the end of the day they're insecure and don't like themselves. It's been suggested that the macho image that metal projects or tries to project is compensatory. It might seem strange at first that metal dwells on war and violence and affirms martial values like honor while its participants very rarely practice them. Of course there's little or no place for such behavior in our society but you'd think more people within the subculture would be leading adventurous lives. Call it metaphor if you will but escapism probably falls closer to the mark. What other explanation is there that (with the notable exception of Norway 90-94ish) so few artists put their money where their mouth is? So I'd just reiterate my earlier statement: despite having low self-esteem metalheads have an idea of what they want to become and achieving that involves becoming more than a metalhead. In other words, put metal behind you as an identity.

This has been stated an excessive amount of times, almost as if most feel that the point of this entire website is to construct an identity based on metal. Maybe I'm the odd one out, or I just don't get it, but I've always felt that the website was about deconstructing the identity based on metal that most build, as well as examining the practical uses of the values that the music espouses. I don't consider myself a metalhead, but neither have I felt any need to "transcend metal," or to "grow beyond being a metalhead". I like the music because of what it communicates, find it beautiful at times even, and I trust in my own abilities to live life in the manner that I think is worth living. I suppose that I just don't see the relevance of your argument; it only seems to apply to consciously defined metalheads, which I don't feel relates to the aims or advocates of ANUS at all.

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Metal / Re: I like O.p.e.t.h.
« on: October 23, 2009, 04:50:08 AM »
Pink Frothy AIDS is good band if you dun like them, its juz' ur opini0n

But if you think they're good; well that's a fact!

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Interzone / Re: Nietzsche's Moral and Political Philosophy
« on: October 19, 2009, 11:49:05 PM »
I really get the sense that people on this forum are presenting their worldviews and not Nietzsche's. Not to say that Ive read all of Nietzsche's books. 'Still working on that).

And true Nietzsche fans are superior to those damn falsies! Anyway, the general idea of the website is that Nietzsche is an influence, and he is an influence in that the website promotes removing one's personal preference for what the world "should" or "ought to be" to make way for preference of what works. This means that anyone who finds that the world has victimized them, including those who are neoclassical traditionalist black metal fans who are "just misunderstood by the modern world", is a failure, and needs to reorganize their priorities towards actions that positively enforce what they value. My values include nation, family, friends, and community. How 'bout yours?

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