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Metal / Re: Wagner or Brahms?
« on: July 23, 2011, 03:46:45 PM »
Wagner: great ouvertures & intermezzos; lots of superfluous notes (hours of them).
Brahms: air-tight, streamlined symphonies among many other perfect pieces (requiem, concertos, sonatas).
Bruckner: Wagner's best condensed in symphonies.
I'll catch up with Wagner when I retire.
Brahms: air-tight, streamlined symphonies among many other perfect pieces (requiem, concertos, sonatas).
Bruckner: Wagner's best condensed in symphonies.
I'll catch up with Wagner when I retire.
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Chasm / Re: Thus passes the great hero Anders Breivik into martyrdom
« on: July 23, 2011, 02:24:35 PM »(Out of the 91 people killed, 11 were homosexuals, and all were social democrats!)
And most were beautiful Norwegian kids aged 14-19. SERVES THEM RIGHT
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Metal / Re: Metal in the year 2011
« on: July 12, 2011, 07:10:53 PM »I don't agree. Metal is very much alive. It has had lots of children and it may be a parent but it's the kind of parent which headbangs and windmills at concerts with its kids.
I just took a shit. The turd is warm. It must be alive.
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Metal / Re: Berlioz, Hector
« on: July 08, 2011, 07:33:29 PM »
"Berlioz Takes a Trip"
Leonard Bernstein dissecting the Symphonie Fantastique in the series Young People's Concerts.
http://youtu.be/tWrut6bxK0M
Leonard Bernstein dissecting the Symphonie Fantastique in the series Young People's Concerts.
http://youtu.be/tWrut6bxK0M
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Audiofile / Re: Compilations & Soundtracks
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:40:44 PM »

Japanese Orchestral Favourites
Works by:
Toyama
Konoye
Ifukube
Akutagawa
Koyama
Yoshimatsu
Tokyo Metropolitan Symphony Orchestra
Ryusuke NUMAJIRI
NAXOS 2001
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Audiofile / Borodin, Alexander
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:30:44 PM »
Borodin, Alexander
Alexander Borodin (1833-1887)

Symphonies no. 1 & 2
Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra
Valery GERGIEV
PHILIPS 1990
Borodin - Polovtsian Dances (from 'Prince Igor')
Berliner Philharmoniker
Sir Simon RATTLE, cond.
EMI 2008
Alexander Borodin (1833-1887)

Symphonies no. 1 & 2
Rotterdam Philharmonic Orchestra
Valery GERGIEV
PHILIPS 1990
Borodin - Polovtsian Dances (from 'Prince Igor')
Berliner Philharmoniker
Sir Simon RATTLE, cond.
EMI 2008
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Audiofile / Kalinnikov, Vasily Sergeyevitch
« on: July 05, 2011, 02:29:41 PM »
Kalinnikov, Vasily Sergeyevitch: Rapidshare, Blogspot, Megaupload
Vasily Sergeyevich Kalinnikov (1866-1901)
Symphonies no. 1 & 2
National Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine
Theodore KUCHAR
NAXOS 1995
Vasily Sergeyevich Kalinnikov (1866-1901)
Symphonies no. 1 & 2
National Symphony Orchestra of Ukraine
Theodore KUCHAR
NAXOS 1995
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Metal / Re: Classical vs. Metal
« on: April 18, 2011, 10:36:26 PM »just smoke some cannabis or don't and listen to the music.
This. Classical to some has this mystic aura of esoterism, extreme complexity, etc.; so cultivated by (proto-)hipsters, for obvious reasons, and by legit enthousiasts to discourage idiots from entering their domain.
Ignore that and get rewarded.
Yeah, or that metal is what classical would be if you demanded five minute songs with some semblance of verse/chorus, produced only on guitar/bass with constant fucking drums, and that there must be some form of semi-monotone vocal as is common in popular music.
...to conveniently forget the rather limited spectrum of substance conveyed in metal. While the depths may not be deeper, the heights sure are higher in classical. So relatively, the depths may be deeper after all (right?).
But this discussion is probably as old as this forum.
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Commerce / Re: BURZUM's 8th ALBUM: FALLEN
« on: April 08, 2011, 07:09:18 AM »Quote
'A step in the right direction'
REMINDER:
The point of putting out an album should be to present a fullgrown work of art, rather than littering the place with another pointless collection of random half-assed exercises.
For this reason, Slayer's 45th, M. Angel's 32nd, Burzum's 8th, 9th etc. aren't worth anyone's time, whether they constitute a 'step in the right direction' (VOMIT) or not.
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Chasm / Re: Dutch people want to go back to old times
« on: March 12, 2011, 07:39:44 PM »Actual change doesn't come from the top of society, it stems from the bottom when the people get truly restless (like in Egypt and Libya atm) until a new competent leader takes control again. After all we're talking about people who want their lives to be controlled by others. They're not going to do it themselves.One can argue that after the Tunisia revolt, it was a 'monkey see, monkey do' type of deal in most affected countries. Otherwise, opportunities to succesfully rise up against decadent leaders aren't seen, let alone created, by lower class people.
Yes, they'll join in on the fun, and demand tastier bread, more extravagant circuses. That probably is also what the complaints of most Europeans boil down to, while we are on the verge of extinction :-)
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Commerce / Re: UNTIL THE LIGHT TAKES US black metal movie / THE EGG horror film
« on: January 26, 2011, 04:17:47 PM »
I love the way they show Fenriz increasingly realizing (again) he's become a museum piece, his legacy being gangraped by halfwits in eternity. When this Melgaard character was too busy enjoying his latte macchiato to speak a word with him I hoped he would ignite in rage. Maybe 15 years in an urban jungle are worse for the romantic artist's spirit than a similar amount of time spent in prison.
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Chasm / Re: Ethnicity causes bad school grades after all
« on: January 19, 2011, 10:50:43 PM »
Invite a shitload of illiterate foreign workers; expect their spawn will miraculously grow brains at the sight of a book. WRONG.
'Expert': [my liberal translation]: 'Really, they're as smart as the native dutch kids, but in the tests there's all them words they don't understand, so they make more mistakes.'
Their fucking parents were born here. Stupidity is a taboo even stronger than ethnicity.
'Expert': [my liberal translation]: 'Really, they're as smart as the native dutch kids, but in the tests there's all them words they don't understand, so they make more mistakes.'
Their fucking parents were born here. Stupidity is a taboo even stronger than ethnicity.
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Metal / Re: YOUR metal timeline
« on: January 04, 2011, 05:45:17 PM »
86 Born [parents' music: anything made between '55 and '75 + some avantgarde classical]
91 Beatles [hipster phase]
95 Mainstream house, gabber
98 Metallica, Slayer
00 Various crap, e.g. L. Bizkit [quarantined]
02 Dimmu B., Prokofiev
03 Burzum, Graveland [ignored all who paved the way for them; still can't be arsed- it's always a step back]
06 [anal probe mk1]
07 Stravinsky, Bartók, Debussy. Also: Ildjarn
08 Beethoven, Schumann
09 Old Italians, medieval music
10 Suffocation, Deicide
11 Will continue exploring DM and Classical while seeing some more of my friends succumb to AIDS of the tympanic membrane :-)
91 Beatles [hipster phase]
95 Mainstream house, gabber
98 Metallica, Slayer
00 Various crap, e.g. L. Bizkit [quarantined]
02 Dimmu B., Prokofiev
03 Burzum, Graveland [ignored all who paved the way for them; still can't be arsed- it's always a step back]
06 [anal probe mk1]
07 Stravinsky, Bartók, Debussy. Also: Ildjarn
08 Beethoven, Schumann
09 Old Italians, medieval music
10 Suffocation, Deicide
11 Will continue exploring DM and Classical while seeing some more of my friends succumb to AIDS of the tympanic membrane :-)
